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- CommentAuthorgarcummins
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2007
Came across this today. Now I've seen this stuff before but nothing this big. Tattoo's are one thing but literally having slices of flesh torn away or branded? I'm not sure.
Discuss....
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I've always had mixed feelings about deliberately scarring one's body. Piercings and tattoos of all sorts never bothered me, but I suppose, having scars inflicted on me, I've never understood doing it to yourself on purpose.
I realise that's irrational. Still, it'll be interesting to hear arguments in either direction.
<a href="http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=189441326">- Z</a> -
- CommentAuthorgarcummins
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2007
It should be pointed out that this isn't a call to arms to dredge BMEZine for the most fucked up pictures you can find. I just had an Indian. Please. -
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CommentAuthorCat Vincent
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2007
I have some ink and a pierced earlobe - and friends with much more work than that, though none with scarification. So I'm not a virgin to body modification - but neither am I a major player.
Aesthetically, I have no problem with it. The piece above is lovely work. Like any bodmod, it's all about the quality of the artist and the care taken with the healing process that matters.
Plus the act of getting that kind of work done would involve a serious mindset, almost certainly involving an altered state of consciousness which would make the piece even more personally significant (even if it were done under a local anaesthetic - which I suspect would be seen as a cop-out by serious aficionados.)
Personally, I can't think of a symbol I'd need to get done with that - ahem - depth. -
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i think scarifycation can be beautiful stuff...but I'm also a fan of tattoos, piercings and scars. I tell stories about my scars.
But scarification is Not something I'd go through...I have a nearly foot wide tat on my lower back that took over two straight hours of work, and it hurt like a motherfucker, but i don't think I'd be able to endure the scarification process...i dont dig on that kind of pain.
i say modify your body however you want. it's your meat...but be aware that it's going to be there forever...
i removed a few piercings I've had and have to deal with having the scars there forever...not a good story scar when they story is that you were a dumbass and got a surface piercing -
Scarification I have no problem with. Autoamputation however... That's like a race down the evolutionary ladder on purpose. That doesn't just impact themselves, but also the people who will have to take care of them now that they have no thumbs for instance.
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I don't mind* scarification and branding, but aesthetically, I prefer tattoos. You can never predict how your body's going to react to any given wound. The ones I've seen in person often heal unevenly, look lumpy, wonky, et cetera.
I fall under the category of "heavily tattooed," I guess, but I think a fair amount of the extreme body modification folks are kinda in it for the one-upsmanship factor. Not that I give a shit. Whatever floats your boat. I spent 7 years and close to $4,000 (US) getting a giant silverfish tattooed from my neck to my legs, so I'm not really in a spot to give anyone grief about their choices of body modification. -
Scarification appeals to me as a more "natural" way to decorate one's body. The only things producing patterns are your body's own healing processes. Nothing new or artificial is introduced to induce colours or shapes. I like it, conceptually.
I have no tattoos, piercings, aesthetic scars, or any other body modifications, but I read ModBlog (and now BodyTwo) every day - and now I'm seriously considering getting some. -
- CommentAuthorgarcummins
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2007
I mean I have plenty of tattoo's too but the idea of this is odd to me. -
After some of the XBM stuff Warren has assaulted my eyes with over the years, this seems pretty tame in comparrison - except for the sheer size and scale, of course.
On a purely aesthetic level, it is rather engaging, and clearly the skill of the artist has to be admired. And I can only imagine the amount of pain-management required to get through something like this, as I'm guessing it had to have been done in a single, continuous session in order to come out looking like that. Pooka, I totally hear you; my leg bands (visible in my icon) took a 2 1/2 hour straight session, and by the second hour the endorphins were definitely burnt off, after which it was - not excruciating exactly - but definitely took a tremendous amount of self-control to not "flinch and flex" and screw the whole thing up.
I guess, so long as there are no complications during the healing process, the guy is definitely going to have one Hell of a conversation piece!
As for whether or not I personally would be up for something like that - well, maybe a tiny brand, but I don't think I could mentally cope with the process of having my own skin flayed off, even if only a small amount.
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the great thing about tats is that as soon as the needle leaves the skin you just get a hot sensation...a bit sore the next day, but the sting doesn't last once the needles gone...I can imagine the skin flaying would be painful for quite a while...
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CommentAuthorAdam Violent
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2007
There's something beautiful and horrific about this. I'll admit that I can be squeamish at the sight of carved flesh like that and I find it very difficult to imagine a person going to such lengths, but I'm not about to judge them. I'm sure it'll look quite amazing when it heals also. But right now... jesus fuck, all I can think about is the process and it gives me the shivers. -
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CommentAuthorCat Vincent
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2007
I have to wonder what happens to the leftovers... -
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CommentAuthorTwosixteen
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2007
I have to wonder what happens to the leftovers...
Soup. -
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random thoughts:
fascinating: no scar heals the same way, you don't get what you plan for. interesting, if planned for.
dumb: some people or artists are expecting to get tattoo-levels of detail out of cutting, when that's just silly. intricate bits which look good fresh and debossedly red with such contrast will look awful once it's entirely healed and bubbled up.
dumber: hairy men who purposefully scar themselves in shaved areas where the hair will grow back, and around their scar in horrific looking ways. -
I saw a picture of someone with an autobot symbol scarred across their back....
That would look pretty neat in scars...heh...i've amused myself with that image..little flesh machine....heh -
I personally find all forms of body modification fascinating. Scarification is something I didn't even really know about until 3 years ago, and now I have a brand planned, I'll get it once I have the money, and after I've gotten 2 other tattoo's I have planned done. Skin removal is doubly interesting because like robb said, no scars heal the same way. It adds an interesting effect to the work. I've seen some beautiful scars done, and some really stupid tattoos. I think it's up to the person getting the work done which they would prefer. For example I plan on only getting black work done, I don't really like colored tattoos. Some people don't like tattoos, but think skin removal is an excellent way to explore their body as a medium for art.
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While you raise the only point against DIY amputation that I find to be valid, I would like to point you towards a few of the articles Shannon over at ModBlog (currently over at BodyTwo, due to issues over at ModBlog) has written up, based on interviews and what not, on amputation.
Chop chop! Look mom, no hand.
The man in the above interview.
Getting into shape.
None of the people featured on ModBlog/BodyTwo who do DIY amputation have to rely on others afterwards. I've read and participated in many debates on DIY Amputation, so I don't feel like getting into another, but I figured I would share these.
The cutting in question at the top of here is awesome, and beautifully done, if anyone wants my two cents. I'm a particular fan of the line of blood dripping down they captured. I like how it hasn't been completely cleaned up yet.
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About amputation and things; many people are using body mods to change themselves because they don't feel right in the basic human form.
I don't have any mods yet; that's just a lack of money though. I'm kinda planning on modding as far as I can go while emphasizing the human form rather than modifying it. I'm sure it's been done before but I still want to try. -
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CommentAuthorSpiraltwist
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2007
I had planned on scarification before I decided on my tatoo. Only reason I changed my mind was because my skin heals very oddly at times. I think it's an impressive piece of work. -
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CommentAuthoralwayscrashing
- CommentTimeDec 6th 2007
If that heals/scars at it's best then it could be fantastic... If not it'll be one hell of a mess. -