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      CommentAuthorDIGIT
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2008 edited
     (1972.1)
    So, while I was at work today I walked in to the break room area and saw (in a box of "Lost & Found" items) a Ouija board ... in its box fully intact and containing all of its parts. The box seemed new and after looking at the board, it looked unused.

    No one knew where it came from or how long it had been there - except that it had been a while. Still, I'd not seen it before ... ever.

    All day the box kept staring at me every time I went into the break room and I kept thinking: It would be cool to see if it actually worked. I asked how long it had to be there before we could claim it as our own and I was told I could have it if I wanted.

    I didn't bring it home yet. I've heard strange stories and comments like: "Nothing good comes from using a Ouija Board".

    So, I just thought I'd ask. Have you or would you use a Ouija Board? If you have, were you successful with it? And if you haven't ... would you if given the opportunity? Do you believe in its "power" or rather the "power of that which communicates through it"?

    I've always wanted (in some capacity) to use a Ouija Board but have never been stared down by one until tonight. And I just want to know what others might think about the whole thing.

    Thanks, in advance for any words you might have to say.

    ~ DIGIT
    • CommentAuthorPablo
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2008
     (1972.2)
    I don't think the Catholic guilt would let me.

    Plus, you know, I don't really believe in that sort of thing, and yet...something about Ouijas just creeps me out. Guess it's really deep seated.
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2008
     (1972.3)
    I'm skeptical, but I would give it a try anyway. And besides, even if it doesn't work at all, you've got a great big coaster to put on the vinyl card table now.
    • CommentAuthorSindigo
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2008
     (1972.4)
    The Ouija board is an excellent example of the ideomotor effect in action. Other examples include: automatic writing, dowsing, facilitated communication and the use of crystal pendulums. There is nothing to it but whatever happens to be in the users' heads.

    However, when I was younger and more gullible I had a couple of tries on one, with two different groups of people. The first was a home-made version, substituting a board for cards with numbers, letters, "yes" and "no" written on them and an upturned tumbler for a planchette. The second was a boxed version which I think was made by Parker Brothers, those well-known makers of occult paraphenalia (as well as Monopoly and Cluedo). On both occassions we were surprised to find the glass moving seemingly on it's own. I concluded that the spirit world must be a dark, barren realm. Possibly filled with up-turned power leads, mousetraps and items of furniture that it is easy to stub your toe on as the messages that were relayed to us were some of the most vile streams of obscenity I have ever heard.
  1.  (1972.5)
    I used it, but nothing happened. I dated a whipsmart atheist, though, who claimed one told her "Fuck you" without anyone touching it.

    So yeah: it's just cardboard and plastic. But why not meet the Archons if they're there?
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      CommentAuthorDIGIT
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2008
     (1972.6)
    I am going to try it out. I'm sure of it - unless someone beats me to snagging the thing from the break room before this evening when I go back to work.

    I know that physically it is nothing more than cardboard and plastic and that there's a possibility of:
    ... nothing to it but whatever happens to be in the users' heads.

    And I grew up with more Catholic guilt than the entire country of Italy - - hell I even entered a monastery and spent time as a monk thinking that God had given me visions (but later left the Church because of the monastery itself and because of ... well, to be a priest the Pope requires that you have a degree in philosophy - it was those philosophy classes I took while in the seminary that made me rethink the religious organization).

    And thanks to actual scary movies, the Ouija Board ranks high up there on the "creepy" scale.

    I just don't want to end up possessed or find the need to call in Sci-Fi Channel's "Ghost Hunters" to remove the spirits I invited over.

    I mean, if I invite one to, er ... "come out and play". I should have the same power to tell it to "Get the fuck out!"

    Right?
  2.  (1972.7)
    Never.
    I'm the guy who pulls people out of the shit they drop themselves in when they do stuff like that.

    Oui-ja is the psychic version of pinning a 'rape me' sign on yourself in the middle of a war zone.
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      CommentAuthorwilliac
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2008 edited
     (1972.8)
    If Oui-ja boards did anything other than demonstrate the ideomotor effect, I'd be driving down to Florida to collect my million dollars.



    [edited, because I can't type]
  3.  (1972.9)
    I used Oui-ja a few times; nothing happened.
  4.  (1972.10)
    An excellent summary of the ideomotor effect. A more robust discussion is found here, including not just silly things like Ouija boards or water dowsing, but also the horrific quackery that is facilitated communication
  5.  (1972.11)
    No question that ideomotor does cause many of the effects usually seen. However, sometimes other stuff gets through. Sometimes that stuff has an intelligence of sorts - and it often tells lies. That's when it gets nasty.

    I realise I'm not going to convince any skeptics here...
  6.  (1972.12)
    ...and as for the Randi prize - here's a good summation of the biases and odds-stacking Randi and co use to ensure their version of reality is reinforced.
  7.  (1972.13)
    no.

    i believe it works, and i prefer not to fuck with it right now as i am not fully prepared. i ahve a friend who i always have an open invite with, and i never do it.
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      CommentAuthorMegaGoosey
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2008
     (1972.14)
    Ouija boards are silly. Fuck with it if you want, it's just a children's toy.

    Seriously all that mystic metaphysical stuff is archaic superstition. I can't believe anyone still believes in that stuff.
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      CommentAuthorJon Wake
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2008
     (1972.15)
    Hey, just a few threads over there's news about groups of people in the Congo convinced that their dicks got stolen by a sorcerer and hoping to get some good old fashioned witch burnings in. If someone believes that Milton Bradley has a direct link to TEH OTHER SIDE then why not cut the small potatoes shit and start kidnapping people's junk?
  8.  (1972.16)
    The way I figure it, either MegaGoosey's right, or joe.distort is. If Goosey is, there's no point in playing with it as it won't do anything. If joe is, it's probably a bad idea to play with it. Kind of like Pascal's Wager, only in this case the odds are in the house's favor.

    That being said, now I really want to see the Milton Bradley magical penis-stealing board game. It needs to have cards like Your Landlord, Your Boss and Tom Cruise.
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2008
     (1972.17)
    I use a Ouija board every day. It's called my PC desktop. I keep trying to work, but the mouse drifts over towards the FireFox application and tells me all sorts of useful information.
  9.  (1972.18)
    as a tie in for the music threads i normally inhabit, have any of you seen the oiuja planchette that MARS VOLTA embedded a usb drive into and sold as the new album? its the only time i have ever though releasing music on a drive of some sort is a good idea.
    plus, the album was based around buying an old tainted board in (i believe) jerusalem.
  10.  (1972.19)
    If there was something in the hoary netherworld that wanted to communicate with you, it would probably find an easier way to do so than through a board game. If communicating with us was possible, they would be doing it all the time.
  11.  (1972.20)
    @Egon A+ I have the same thing. heh.

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