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    • CommentAuthorcjtremlett
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2008 edited
     (1972.61)
    I adore the Vertigo tarot. I -need- the Amano! I don't have that one yet.

    I buy my decks for the art. I own 85 of them, so far. *g* The different interpretations of the symbols can be amazing. I putter around with making my own deck. Since my drawing ability sucks, it would be photography based. Though a friend of mine and I have tossed around the idea of doing a deck together - he's got a wonderfully disturbing minimalist style.

    Paul, if you ever go beyond dabbling and make a deck, I'll buy it!

    (Edited for spelling)
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    @Orwell

    Hey look mage tarot, can I have a In Unity Strength.

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      CommentAuthorDIGIT
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008
     (1972.63)
    The ouija board's been out all day, planchette sitting in the middle of the board. I haven't had too much time to sit with the thing, but i did casually ask if there was anyone who wanted to talk ... nothing. Asked if anyone even cared ... nothing. Kinda what I expected for putting no sincerity into it at all.

    I'll try tomorrow as I have the day off from work. Funny thing is, my dog really doesn't want to look at it or sit next to me while I have it off the table. And she's pretty curious about most everything. I know that sounds silly, but it seemed odd for a moment.
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      CommentAuthorbabymole
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008
     (1972.64)
    I just want to ask...

    Where the hell do you work for there to be a Ouija board in the lost and found box???????????

    The oddest thing I've ever found in anything like that was a prosthetic foot... I really wanted to take it, as it had apparently been there for a while, but never did.
    • CommentAuthorsacredchao
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008
     (1972.65)
    How long until Morrison becomes a paranoid, broken shell-of-a-man ala P.K. Dick in his later years? Not too much longer, I think.
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      CommentAuthorStoto
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008
     (1972.66)
    I attempted it once.
    There was a live séance on TV and we were all invited to join in at home. I had prepared my board in the morning and had tucked it away, waiting anxiously for the show to start. All day I was thinking to myself, "This is it. Absolutely nothing is going to stop me now. I will find out if these ouija boards really work". 30 minutes until the show was about start, my house caught fire. A lightbulb in the garage roof had set fire to a birdsnest. Subsequently the gas mains exploded and about 90% of my house was fucked. Coinsidence or message from the grave, I dont know, but I still havn't bloody found out if they work.
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      CommentAuthorliquidcow
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008
     (1972.67)
    Did anyone see that Derren Brown thing about betting on horse races? It was a very good way of articulating something about chance that I've always wanted to explain to people but never been able to.
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      CommentAuthorDIGIT
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008
     (1972.68)
    @babymole I work at a book/music superstore. The funny thing is, we don't even sell ouija boards. We have a case full of tarot cards and the like, but no Ouija. And about that prosthetic foot ... that's one of the funniest things I've heard. I mean how in the world do you go off and forget your foot? LOL
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008
     (1972.69)
    So do the spirits all happen to know the English language or does the Ouija board only communicate with those that spoke the language in life?
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      CommentAuthorbabymole
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008
     (1972.70)
    @DIGIT: the fact the board was in the box in the first place seems to be one of those huge cosmic synchronicity things at work.

    When i left the job with the foot, the foot was on display in the kitchen, covered in tinsel. I was loaded down with other things I was stealing and couldn't fit it into my backpack. I like to think its still there, covered in dust. And tinsel still...
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      CommentAuthorbabymole
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008 edited
     (1972.71)
    @Egon: Imagine a Ouija covered in Hebrew, or Islamic...

    Or L337.

    (Edited because I saw Megatokyo on my shelf...)
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008 edited
     (1972.72)
    That's kind of my point. With the Chinese being 1/3 of the global populace, do a lot of ghosts just kind of go "Oh look, some white kid is trying to contact us again. Hey Huang, you want to have a little fun?"
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      CommentAuthorbabymole
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008
     (1972.73)
    Reading that made me laugh and spill red wine over my lap.
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    Kinda what I expected for putting no sincerity into it at all.


    It sounds like you already have decided it does work, and thus the fault is in how you acted.
    As opposed to the fact that lacking any genuine interest you did manipulate it yourself subconsciously as is usually the case.
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      CommentAuthorDIGIT
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008 edited
     (1972.75)
    It sounds like you already have decided it does work

    I've decided that it's possible, yes. And be that the case, it probably was in the way I had acted.

    @babymole: the foot was on display in the kitchen? uh ... I don't know whether to LOL or EW!

    EDIT: So, after I started talking about this and people have been commenting on the whole Science vs. Supernatural, I ran into a book at work (which I ended up getting) called "SPOOK: Science Tackles the Afterlife" be Mary Roach. I've never read her before now, but she's funny and pretty smart - I think.
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    I've decided that it's possible, yes.


    That really sums up this thread.

    You were not trying it out to see what happens from a neutral view in the face of the believers and skeptics here, rather you already believe it works and want evidence or confirmation it does.
    Having not seen evidence of that, you now have an explanation why to excuse your own experiences - must have been used wrong. As to the information Paul or anyone else posted, well I suspect none of it would have mattered either way.

    Neither the ideas in the thread, nor your own experience are actually necessary for you to the make your decision here. You believe it works inherently. This is the heart of the issue a few of us have been going on about, science (again good science) and the scientific method does not assume truth and then keep at it until they find subjective evidence to support it. Occult belief does just that. Obviously people may believe how they wish – but it is fair to admit you are not being analytical about it, you are trying to find support for your desire to believe.
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    There was an article in -I think it was- Psychology today on 'magical thinking' and science. I didn't have time to read it, though; just perused.
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      CommentAuthorDIGIT
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2008
     (1972.79)
    You believe it works inherently.

    No ... I'm just stating that there is a possibility of it working. It would be exciting if it does. It would not be disappointing if it doesn't. I'm not making judgments one way or another. Maybe I've worded my statements to suggest otherwise, but I've read every post on this thread and have appreciated them all.
    Neither the ideas in the thread, nor your own experience are actually necessary for you to the make your decision here.

    Actually, I believe experience is key. The Existential philosophical view is what I find most relevant. My experiences and decisions make up who I am, which lead to more experiences and decisions that will continue to create my life.
    but it is fair to admit you are not being analytical about it, you are trying to find support for your desire to believe.

    I'm actually being more analytical about it than I suppose I'm conveying. I was a Philosophy major, so I can't help but pick apart almost everything I hear, read and even experience; it's who and how I've always been. I even agree with much of what Paul has written as well as some of the others. Still, as I think I've stated before, I won't dismiss the whole idea of the Supernatural because Science hasn't (not can't) explain it.
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    Still, as I think I've stated before, I won't dismiss the whole idea of the Supernatural because Science hasn't


    Thats the thing- it has. We know the motor functions and psychological reasons that underpin why the board appears to work and, and, as a result, we know what is really going on. That is not "science having not explained it yet", thats an example of believers not liking the explanation. Which is often the root of "science has no answer for this!" in occult belief. It is not the absence of a perfectly provable scientific process for the observed evidence, but the refusal to acknowledge any explanation which does not support what is already believed.

    And in all fairness you expressed it failed for you because you did not try hard enough. Thats an inherent assumption that it works, isn't it?

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