Sat, 25 May 2013 05:27:56 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44089#Comment_44089 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44089#Comment_44089 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:58:22 -0700 wellsy http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44101#Comment_44101 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44101#Comment_44101 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:31:17 -0700 frenchbloke oh look at me, I can write my name in my forearm with a razor blade.
whoopee.

i read the hype, then saw them on snub tv. they sounded like the jam. only worse. a bad jam tribute band.

*and breath out* ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44102#Comment_44102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44102#Comment_44102 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:31:52 -0700 TF
Why? I don't think they're anything special - either as musicians or song writers.

Why do they connect with you? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44103#Comment_44103 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44103#Comment_44103 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:33:30 -0700 vrbtm
Unless "Manic Street Preachers" is the welsh spelling of "Nickelback", I'm afraid you are completely wrong.

Drive-By Truckers are/is he best band ever-- complete metaphysical certitude. You can set your atomic clocks to the sheer reliability of their best band ever coefficient. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44107#Comment_44107 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44107#Comment_44107 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:40:59 -0700 wellsy
He didn't carve his name into his arm, he wrote "4REAL" after the bands credibility was questioned. I don't think Richies actions reflected the entire band anyway.

I relate to them coz they arent afraid to speak thier minds. They will often be the first to question themselves then go through a reinvention. They write songs and music for themselves and the fans not for critics,otherbands and record labels.

The Holy Bible is a greatest reinvention after a weak 2nd album. It showcases thought provoking lyrics, puts out thier political opinion and is packed with excellent guitar riffs and banging drums. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44108#Comment_44108 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44108#Comment_44108 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:41:37 -0700 Egon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44110#Comment_44110 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44110#Comment_44110 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:43:52 -0700 Winther http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44111#Comment_44111 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44111#Comment_44111 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:44:22 -0700 vrbtm
]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44118#Comment_44118 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44118#Comment_44118 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:57:33 -0700 Malsain
I did appreciate the references in Phonogram though. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44131#Comment_44131 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44131#Comment_44131 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:53:25 -0700 mark barter
Evidence for the prosecution:

Motorcycle Emptiness - a glorious pop classic that raises teenage angst to an art form and always leaves me dizzy.

The Holy Bible - a truly terrifying record, a deep pit of nihilism and loathing that showed an ambition way beyond any of their peers. Played it hundreds of times and it smacks me in the head every time.

What more do you want from a band? Angry, pretty, insanely opininated, fiercely intelligent, never afraid to make fall flat on their faces, a towering ambition, a dreadful hunger. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44235#Comment_44235 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44235#Comment_44235 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:49:53 -0700 Dracko http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44237#Comment_44237 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44237#Comment_44237 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:05:51 -0700 MagicSword! http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44245#Comment_44245 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44245#Comment_44245 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:43:26 -0700 Ariana Dear Internet Jesus, dear Internet Shiva, Goddess of Death, please close this thread. I'm pretty sure none of them are around right now -- unless I've been upgraded to Goddess of Death. Which would be fun for a while, I suppose, but I'm pretty sure going around doing Death Goddess... stuff... all the time is going to cut into my Mechanicking time. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44266#Comment_44266 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44266#Comment_44266 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:55:36 -0700 dot_xom I loved the running gag in Phonogram involving Kula Shaker, since I'm probably one of the only people in the world that actually enjoyed that band. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44271#Comment_44271 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44271#Comment_44271 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:40:49 -0700 muse hick i love them up to a point
their music got flabby
symm is possibly the worst song after bon jovi's tokyo road to ever be recorded ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44287#Comment_44287 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44287#Comment_44287 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:33:36 -0700 synthsapien Kula Shaker? Worst live experience I ever had. Badbadbad. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44375#Comment_44375 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44375#Comment_44375 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:11:31 -0700 phil.lunt I saw them a good few times in the early to mid 90's and they were a decent bunch of blokes, very open to meeting the fans and general banter etc but things change and life moves on...
First 3 albums were a bit of a rollercoaster, after that it all began to get a bit flat - all mid-tones and not much light and shade.

Getting hammered with JDB at a secret Therapy? gig in Manc in '95 was interesting, though! He's a top bloke ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44379#Comment_44379 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44379#Comment_44379 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:36:04 -0700 Ananzitusq The Holy Bible was the only album that mattered to me. Then again, I got into them by way of a completely psycho girlfriend at the time, so it all comes together. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44382#Comment_44382 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44382#Comment_44382 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:37:41 -0700 dot_xom Worst live experience I had was Oasis. Liam was being such a bloody prima donna the whole time.

Best gig I've ever attended was Broken Social Scene, followed by the Beastie Boys and the Aussie band Regurgitator.

I think I've officially strayed off topic... ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44391#Comment_44391 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44391#Comment_44391 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:55:31 -0700 wellsy http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44393#Comment_44393 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44393#Comment_44393 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:02:21 -0700 JoshHechinger
And I couldn't understand a word the singer was saying. Motorcycle Emptiness just sounded like some guy belting out random vowel sounds, backed by some admittedly epic guitar.

The album's since grown on me, but that first listen kinda killed whatever chance the band had of winning my heart and mind, y'know? Sorry. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44395#Comment_44395 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44395#Comment_44395 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:08:32 -0700 muse hick listen to them nowadays and tell me that they seriously haven't blanded out and conformed.

i still listen to their earlier stuff, i listen to the clash, i listen to rage against the machine and other bands that are political so it's not that i am looking to avoid politics -- it is just that the manics don't really provide it anymore. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44398#Comment_44398 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44398#Comment_44398 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:21:12 -0700 phil.lunt
looking back, though - if i'd listened to certain bands back in the early 90's that I got into much later (like the Pixies, for example) then I really don't think the Manics would've had as much of an influence on me... all the Manics did was make me more blinkered, to be honest..... ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44628#Comment_44628 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44628#Comment_44628 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:40:47 -0700 Dj Dead Billy seems a lot of brits are hating on MSP.that's fine and understandable. a few of the brit musicians i know have cited enjoying bands from the us that i think are abject garbage.

as far as the manics go,they never had any play in the states at all...at least not where i lived.

i listened to "Holy Bible" for the first time about 8 years ago and i thought it was a fantastic album. I'm not going to tear apart at the seams about them or anything, but i think it's certainly a terrific album that deserved more media attention. i know you brits probably had this shit crammed down your curry-holes for way too long, but as an outsider looking in, i truly think it's worthwhile. i don't listen to it all the time, nor did i when i first heard it but..jeez. good stuff. (i'm not a fan of any of their other albums,btw)

seriously though..whoever said drive by truckers is the best band ever has serious fucking problems. listen to early bruce springsteen and you'll get the same sort of blue collar redneck shit only with good lyrics...at least he wrote white trash songs that had some sort of substance.

whoever said they sound like the jam....the jam is one of my fave bands ever. i really don't hear the likeness at all. compare some songs,perhaps?

i guess what i mean to say is...
holy bible is pretty awesome and i enjoyed it. everything after and before was just so-so and if you don't like my opinion, i guess you could go listen to your own shitty music and continue arguing over albums the rest of us (except wellsy) got over years ago :D ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44642#Comment_44642 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44642#Comment_44642 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:13:58 -0700 frenchbloke Maybe your all just to scared to appreciate a political rock band. And your all happy listening to the bands who conform.

damn Crass and their conformity.
*shakes fist * ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44644#Comment_44644 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44644#Comment_44644 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:34:18 -0700 synthsapien Maybe your all just to scared to appreciate a political rock band. And your all happy listening to the bands who conform.

That's about the most retarded thing I've read all weekend wellsy. You really know all about me from my opinion on one band? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44646#Comment_44646 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44646#Comment_44646 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:46:21 -0700 frenchbloke http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44648#Comment_44648 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44648#Comment_44648 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:52:40 -0700 synthsapien thread closed ? please ?

Agreed. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44673#Comment_44673 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44673#Comment_44673 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:53:37 -0700 Dracko
You little shit.

P.S. Rage Against the Machine need a beating too. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44675#Comment_44675 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44675#Comment_44675 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:04:21 -0700 Midweeker Can we please all remember that music is entirely subjective, and hey, at least the Manics had something to say, even if they were incredibly ham-fisted about it at times?
Personally I'll forgive them anything, after getting into a drunken conversation with James Bradfield and Andy Cairns (from Therapy?) at the Reading festival some ten years ago, which turned into one of the most hilarious nights of my life. I would tell more, but I was very, very dunk... ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44677#Comment_44677 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44677#Comment_44677 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:16:10 -0700 frenchbloke
*ducks* ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44678#Comment_44678 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44678#Comment_44678 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:17:27 -0700 Dracko
Point is, I love the early Manics, I really do. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44684#Comment_44684 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44684#Comment_44684 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:36:13 -0700 wellsy Manics thread on and as usual the responeses have split the memebers. Some people like early stuff, some people like current and some don't like them what so ever.

To DJ Dead Billy, So The Holy Bible was made in the 90s, so the band have grown up and so have I but thats no reason to stop liking them and thier music as you possibly suggested when you said I should 'Move on.'

One thing I hate is people who say they love a band buy the first album and buy the end of the week say the same band is shit.Isn't music something worth getting passionate about? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44705#Comment_44705 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44705#Comment_44705 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:31:24 -0700 babymole
Its just another band that was relevant now just plugging away. They obvioulsy enjoy what they do, but I don't think they'll ever top Holy Bible.

Because of this thread I'm bouncing around my bedroom to Faster (I've already split red wine all over myself...) ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44707#Comment_44707 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44707#Comment_44707 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:38:07 -0700 wellsy
They said thier next album will be a return to Holy Bible style, so I wait with baited breath. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44709#Comment_44709 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44709#Comment_44709 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:42:14 -0700 babymole http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44710#Comment_44710 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44710#Comment_44710 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:42:17 -0700 Scribe Maybe your all just to scared to appreciate a political rock band. And your all happy listening to the bands who conform.

I like bands with political views, but I want them to be talented. I only see one of those traits in the Manics, and it's not talented.

If you really like them, then buy all their CDs, but I have a different taste. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44746#Comment_44746 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44746#Comment_44746 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:48:11 -0700 phil.lunt
Personally, I think if they try a faux return to a "Holy Bible Style" then they'll get laughed back to Blackwood! It was "of the fecking moment!" They're now content, well off, middle aged gents - how the heck will that drive the angst of an album like "Holy Bible"?

But...

@ Scribe - they are talented... well, JDB and Sean are musically talented. When he gets going James is an amazing guitarist (marred over the past few years by arthritis, though, apparently). Richey was a good lyricist but i'm not too sure about Nicky, nowadays, especially after hearing their latest stuff... ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44749#Comment_44749 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44749#Comment_44749 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:58:59 -0700 warrenellis
That said, "Maybe your all just to scared to appreciate a political rock band. And your all happy listening to the bands who conform" gave me a good laugh.

Carry on. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44764#Comment_44764 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44764#Comment_44764 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:30:40 -0700 David Matthew
Enjoying Fuck Buttons is conformist?

And I think that's all that needs to be said. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44769#Comment_44769 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44769#Comment_44769 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:39:26 -0700 synthsapien right music, there's no such thing. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44772#Comment_44772 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44772#Comment_44772 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:54:58 -0700 TF
I fucking love love Prince! - Everyone hates me for it - do I care? No! ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44840#Comment_44840 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44840#Comment_44840 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:35:02 -0700 dot_xom Who are these cah-ray-zees who hate you for loving Prince and where I can find them? They sounds like a downright peculiar bunch! ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44942#Comment_44942 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44942#Comment_44942 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:00:58 -0700 Yeah, no
I can't say I'm surprised. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44943#Comment_44943 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44943#Comment_44943 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:05:44 -0700 Z @Yeah, no

You say this on his board? Why even post here then? In all seriousness, move on. It's not as if you have to post here.

- Z ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44947#Comment_44947 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44947#Comment_44947 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:14:44 -0700 Spiraltwist
I can't believe you actually typed that. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44950#Comment_44950 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44950#Comment_44950 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:19:49 -0700 tedcroland @Yeah, no

Baaaahahahaahahahahahhhahahaha. You, sir, are a moron. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44954#Comment_44954 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44954#Comment_44954 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:30:55 -0700 Cat Vincent did you actually create an account here just to say that? Seriously, you joined, then posted your one-liner a minute later... just to say that? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44962#Comment_44962 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44962#Comment_44962 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:09:05 -0700 Ariana did you actually create an account here just to say that?
Haha -- nah, that'd be Dracko discovering he can't post with his old account and making a new one. Happens all the time. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44969#Comment_44969 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=44969#Comment_44969 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:30:55 -0700 Spiraltwist
Your powers are many and should be feared. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=45002#Comment_45002 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=45002#Comment_45002 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:41:32 -0700 Old Moon Face Revolutionary idea - enjoy music. It doesn't matter where it comes from, how popular it is, how popular it isn't, what form it takes, how it's made, who makes it... if you like it, listen to it. Who gives a damn what anyone else thinks. Discuss it, sure, but don't belittle someone for liking or not liking the right music, there's no such thing.

Well said.

I do love The Holy Bible, but it really is the only Manics album I still enjoy. It's brilliant, though, innit? It's fraught and angry and fuckin' nasty in places, but it's all so damned catchy. They were actually invited to play Faster on Top Of The Pops! I can't imagine the current crop of Nokia/T-Mobile-sponsored teen music programmes taking that risk. And maybe that's part of the problem. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=45004#Comment_45004 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=45004#Comment_45004 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:50:16 -0700 jona http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=45005#Comment_45005 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=1979&Focus=45005#Comment_45005 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:56:47 -0700 Old Moon Face