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Culturegasm: [Sink] But seriously...is The Venture Bros. the greatest American cartoon ever made?
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CommentAuthormojojoseph
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
@ Admiral Neck
The only TV in my house is in the living room and attached to a PS3 qnd XBox 360...anyone know if they are multi-region or hackable?
NB: My housemate recently bought two American Blu-Ray DVDs, one of which worked, the other didn't...if I knew for certain it would play on my Playstation, the boxsets would be bought lol.
But my house is tiny, and there's nowhere I could put a TV and DVD player in my room...I'm pretty hard pushed for options, but have some tech...it's just a shame I'm lame, 'cause I think I may have developed a physical dependency upon that show. -
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pretty big on frisky dingo myself...
but venture bros. kicks ass... -
- CommentAuthorCodyMelartin
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Greatest ever? No. Greatest current? Yeah. -
Lots of "me toos" but few of you have some plot discussion going on here, so I'm just sweeping this one off the front page. Carry on.
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Aside from all the funny jokes, The Venture Bros. biggest appeal for me has been Doc Hammer and Jackson Publick's ability to take old themes and characters and make them relevant and interesting again, very much like what Warren has done with books like PLANETARY and Alan Moore did with L.O.E.G. (albeit in a more comedic fashion). The Venture Bros. is a love-letter to all those old Hanna-Barbera toons and the comics of the 60's.
And for those of you who brought up The Tick, Ben Edlund wrote three Venture Bros. episodes. Edlund and Hammer were room mates in college, and Jackon Publick (Christopher McCulloch) was discovered by Edlund at a comic con, who got him a gig on the The Tick animated series and a Tick spin-off comic. -
- CommentAuthorTechnocratJT
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Ok,
I think the real strength of the show is the same as The Tick before it. It does what it does not only with tons of geek appeal, but with a genuine evidence of wit and satire. Venture works for the exact same reason Nextwave does: that you can appeal to the heart of geeky coolness and at the same time actually be really funny and offensive.
Its easy to just throw geek references as the screen until they stick. Its much harder to make The Scooby Gang into referecnes to 1970s bug fuck crazy people like Son of Sam and Manson. So, yes we can all laugh and admit its geeky and we are in the narrow audience is made for, so we like it, but really - its a much better show then that. -
- CommentAuthorKosmopolit
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
To follow up on what Jtraub says - there's some pretty acute psychological observation in Venture Bros - in between the the fart jokes.
For example, Doc is constantly complaining about his crappy sex life - but as soon as he meets a woman who's actually attracted to him (Sally Impossible) he runs a mile to avoid her. This is part of a pattern in which he endlessly sabotages himself - in order to justify his resentment at his father for ruining his life. This feeds into his hostility to JJ - who really has genuinely had a horrible life but who refuses to let it affect him. -
"its a much better show then that."
Yes, but there's a bit of a . . . learning curve? No . . . well, you have a certain tolerance for the outrageous to get beyond (say) Dr. Orpheus's teacher -- in the form of Cerberus -- describing the sensation of fellating himself to a later scene where he's giving Orpheus relationship advice and you realize that the mighty sorcerer is a bit of a dweeb and terribly human. That's amazing stuff, but most folks won't get there.
"there's some pretty acute psychological observation in Venture Bros."
There's some borderline heartbreaking stuff in that show. -
- CommentAuthorKosmopolit
- CommentTimeMay 7th 2008
There's some borderline heartbreaking stuff in that show.
"He calls me "Dan or "Don" sometimes but I don't think those are nick-names." -
@StefanJ
I get what you're saying about a "learning curve" for it. I think that most of the series on Adult Swim have a bit of that outrageous crashing into references and moving on to something else - usually pretty fast. Unlike other Adult Swim series like AquaTeenHungerForce - this one does have a bit of a plot and is way less random. It's the best of the bunch.
@Kosmopolit
I think that "it's on / it's off / it's on / it's off / it's on / it's off- its BLINKING!" would make for a great Broadway tune. -
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CommentAuthorAwesomeExMachina
- CommentTimeMay 19th 2008
Just this past weekend, a good 12 of us piled in a van and drove to Chicago for ACEN. This year, we organized a Venture Bros. cosplay. I am not pictured (sadly) as my henchman costuem did not properly come together by the time the con rolled around. But I was proud photographer instead. Also, Dean and Hank rode on my back at various times making me the temporary cosplay of "The Perfect Man." -
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GLORIOUS.
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- CommentAuthorKosmopolit
- CommentTimeMay 31st 2008
http://jacksonpublick.livejournal.com/
Just a quick reminder that Season 3 debuts on Adult Swim tonight. -
Which was fantastic. For those of you who missed it, or don't have cable, you can watch the whole thing on adultswim.com.
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Hey everyone, as I am a HUGE fan of the Venture Bros as well, and hate potential pet suffering, I thought I'd share this!
from Jackon Publick's Blog:Those of you who love Venture Bros. production and promotional art (and/or Don Bluth art, or Batman/Superman Adventures art)--and like helping other people--can head on over here, or here on the eBay, where married Venture Bros. storyboard superstars Stephen DeStefano and Siobhan DeStefano are holding an auction chock full of animation goodies to help pay the steep medical bills for their beloved, terribly ill cat, Lola.
