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  1.  (24.1)
    Yes I do.

    I found this curiosity the other day (while noting that the infamous drunk-Orson Paul Masson outtake has made it to YouTube) -- "a dramatic recreation of a meeting between Nikola Tesla, industrialist J.P. Morgan and Thomas Edison." I'm pretty sure the Tesla guy (who looks a little bit like John Hawkes) is dubbed, but still...

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      CommentAuthorJosh T.
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
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    Poor Edison, he just isn't the genius that Tesla is and it eats him up inside. It reminds me of the scene in Good Will Hunting where Stellan SkarsgÄrd breaks down and tells Matt Damon he can't stand his existence. "Sometimes I wish I had never met you. Because then I could go to sleep at night not knowing there was someone like you out there."
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    Good stuff
    • CommentAuthorphilnelson
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
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    I made my girlfriend watch F For Fake on our first date. Got about 45 minutes into it before I started ranting about what a tragic figure Welles was, and how great Fake is for letting him be Welles The Magician/liar one more time.

    Then, of course, sex was inevitable.
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    Was it JP Morgan for the sake of the film? Wasn't Westinghouse who was the money man behind Tesla?
    • CommentAuthorjohnplatt
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
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    Tesla and Welles -- two geniuses who were crushed by the systems they hoped to work within and who never lived up to their full potentials. I wonder what Welles felt acting in this scene?
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    Much love for Orson Welles. We watched him in The Third Man in Film Studies last term and it was like an epiphany, and I went on a mad spree looking for him on youtube. Unfortunately, I saw the drunk videos, and honest to God, it made me sad...
    • CommentAuthorrobb
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
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    anyone read his biography by simon callow? worthwhile? i believe there's three volumes. for some reason it wasn't shocking to hear that the drunken scot who had a heart attack in "4 weddings and a funeral" would obsess over welles. an odd good fit.
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      CommentAuthorAlexis
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2007
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    Somehow the drunk videos of Orson Welles make me like him more. He was crushed under the wieght of his own genius, it's brilliantly human.
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    I know its a cliched observation, but its a little stunning to see how much Wells looked more and more like the destroyed Charles Foster Kane is his later years. Still, the guy could pull a great performance out of his ass, as the above clip is a great example of that.

    - Zachary -
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    I don't know that I'll ever totally forgive life for what it did to Orson Welles. Ever seen The Magnificent Ambersons? It's entirely possible that it could have been as good as Kane, had the studio not fucked it up beyond all recognition. With that said, I really want to get my hands on the new(ish) Criterion Mr. Arkadin.

    Will
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      CommentAuthorC.c.
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    Rosebud was his sled.
    • CommentAuthorcez
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    Oh SNAP!
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      CommentAuthor46&2
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    I don't think I've fully grasped the man's genius but I do admire his work.
  7.  (24.15)
    There's an interestingly flawed Tim Robbins-directed movie about Welles and his early theatre work, specifically the production called 'Cradle Will Rock'. Film has the same title. Bit long, but fascinating.
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    Third Man fans might be interested to know that Welles, who began his career in radio, had a radio show that ran from 1951 to 1952 called The Lives Of Harry Lime. The entire run (52 episodes) is floating around on old time radio sites and otr trading hubs in excellent quality mp3s. I like radio drama, and though I tend to prefer the BBC stuff to the American, the Harry Lime show is my favourite series. Unlike the television show that came later, this Harry is the conman we know and love, but not yet quite sleazy enough to do something as nasty as watering down black market penicillin. Lots of femmes fatale, travel to foreign lands, zither music by Anton Karas in every episode, and one of the shows even served as a dry run for Welles' later Confidential Report, aka Mr. Arkadin, with Harry in the role of the investigator!
    • CommentAuthorrobb
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    luckily, movies about welles haven't been awful. "cradle will rock" and "rko 281" with liev schrieber. i just pray that the anthony hopkins hitchcock biopic doesn't taint my image of the man. off-topic, all the press about stephen king condemning anyone whom spoils the end of "the mist" reminded me of hitchcock's mush-mouthed advertisements asking people not to give away what happens in "psycho" so everyone can experience the surprises fresh.
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      CommentAuthorZachary Cole
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007 edited
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    immaterial: You inspired me to track down the full run of The Lives of Harry Lime, and it does not disappoint. I'd only heard the one episode included on the Third Man Criterion disc before, but these will be a treat.

    Will
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    You won't be sorry, Will -- those radio shows aren't great art, but they're huge fun, and Welles is great in them.

    For me, part of the fascination with Welles is that, talented as he was, he seemed incapable of staying out of his own way. Much as I like him (and I know this isn't going to go over very well), there's some evidence to suggest that Welles brought most of his troubles on himself. The story goes that he had been hired to do an adaptation of Heart Of Darkness, but decided to make Kane instead, without informing his bosses! How this could even be possible within the studio system at that time I don't know, but the story persists. And if that wasn't bad enough, his secret movie was a thinly veiled biography of an entirely too powerful and rich man who was basically guaranteed to destroy him -- which he did. Prior to that he'd panicked America by making it think it was being invaded by Martians. So there's a bit of a self-destructive streak detectable there.