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      CommentAuthorSvetlana
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2007 edited
     (24.21)
    I saw a doc years ago (don't remember what it was called), and it showed the trials of his later years... It's so brutal - Unfinished projects, stolen films... All the negatives for his version of The Merchant of Venice were stolen and never found! A while later he filmed Shylock's monologue, and it's heart-rending:



    In his last years he had to piggy-back his productions on student films, and hide whenever any executives came around, so they wouldn't know he was involved :(

    If you haven't seen the version of "Touch of Evil" that Walter Murch re-cut to Welles' original specifications, you're missing one of the greatest Films Noir ever made.

    See it.

    See it now.
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      CommentAuthorSvetlana
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2007
     (24.22)
    Waaaah. I killed the thread :(
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      CommentAuthorTF
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007
     (24.23)
    Have a look -

    http://browse.sothebys.com/?q=welles

    Out of my price range and if I could afford it I wouldn't waster the cash - honestly it's not even worth registering so you can have a zoom....

    I don't know why I posted it really
  1.  (24.24)
    @svetlana - that clip was cool. That little tear almost choked me.

    Lets not forget folks the film role he was born to play: UNICRON the planet-eater in Transformers the Movie. My first exposure to his dulcet tones.
    • CommentAuthorDerrickCB
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2007
     (24.25)
    I've written several magazine articles on Welles and his misunderstood career, basically he challenged a system that wins 95% of the time. Usually when someone challenges that System -- Hollywood -- you either get cowed into submission and continue working for the money and occasionally putting out something artistic or you find something else to do. Unfortunately for Welles, he tried again and again to try to challenge the System. One would have thought after Lady From Shanghai, he would have acted differently but he didn't. I'm a huge fan of his work, but he suffered from never getting the proper support for anything after Ambersons, so it's almost impossible to judge his genius.

    Was he a fantastic actor? yes. A fantastic writer/director? Yes. A fantastic business man? No; and it is called Show Business. Lesser talents burn brighter because of business acumen.

    His Othello was the reason why I became a filmmaker, and it's a little scene film -- but everything that the music video directors brought to cinema -- fast-cutting, jagged framing -- he was doing 40 years earlier and WITH A COMPETENT script.

    We'll never fully appreciate or understand what he had to offer, because much of the output was so messy. If you get a chance to check out - ONE MAN BAND (which has snippets of the majority his never completed projects or the MAKING OF OTHELLO you'll see why everything post Touch of Evil was just marred by bad reputation... something that rarely gets lived down in the film industry.
  2.  (24.26)
    Ironically, if Tom Edison had won th AC/DC war, we'd be much better placed now to switch to renewable energy sources.
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      CommentAuthormrghosty
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2008
     (24.27)
    I've got this great film on 16mm called FUTURESHOCK. HOSTED AND NARRATED BY ORSON WELLES!

    Basically its Welles hosting and narrating, calling for people (more specifically youth) to learn how to be critical and mindful of the technologies that they are using. In an age where everyone picks up a device without even thinking of it, it'd be nice to see this have another go round.

    I sound like a luddite here but I'm not. I just wish that more folks applied some of their critical faculties to the areas of consumer technologies. I guess Mr. Welles convinced me. Now if only he can convince others.
    • CommentAuthorStefanJ
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2008
     (24.28)
    This is spooky. My brother sent me a link to a YouTube recording of FUTURE SHOCK, and I was watching it not ten minutes ago! In fact, I mostly checked out this thread to post the link:

    Future Shock, 1/5

    Welles, smoking a big cigar, adds a lot of cranky gravitas.
  3.  (24.29)
    It's funny. Watching Welles' Shylock, youtube offers you Al Pacino's version just after.


    It's like a candle before the sun.

    Without a set, or costumes of music or other actors Welles just nails the emotions of that speech, the rage, the desperation, the pain.

    He was 20-30 years ahead of his time in many ways. Watch his version of The Trial there are camera movements and framing in that initial arrest scene that Kubrick would use years later in movies like "The Shining" or "Clockwork Orange". His last hurrah, "The Other Side of the Wind" plays with POV shooting and has compositions that look as modern as anything smart directors are doing now. He was trapped by the expense of film and the dominance of the hollywood racket.

    To think of what he could have done with digital technology and the freedom of editing on fly.

    The documentary "One Man Band" is available for download . It's a big AVI file.
    • CommentAuthorSasha_mak
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2008 edited
     (24.30)
    An old SCTV bit:
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    I can never think of Orson Welles without being reminded of his roles in War of the Worlds and The Shadow. Thankfully the magic power of the internet has preserved them both for posterity.

    I remember watching 'The Third Man' obsessively over and over again, trying to understand how it was possible that a character could be so perfectly written and depicted in such a tiny space of time. This thread now presents me with a difficult choice, do I hunt down the radio show about Harry Lime or do I allow the character to remain pure and unsullied in my memory?

    Tragically I was once married to a Transformers addict and am all too familiar with his final role as the voice of Unicron in the animated movie.
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      CommentAuthorroque
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2008 edited
     (24.32)
    I'm glad this got bumped. I love Orson Welles too.

    this is my favorite:The Man Who Saw Tomorrow

    Welles narrating a documentary on Nostradamus. he does a good job, though he's obviously slurring his words in some parts; the material itself is what's really funny. especially the dramatic recreation of the coming of the Antichrist.
    • CommentAuthorDracko
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2008
     (24.33)
    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    immaterial, and others: <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/TheLivesOfHarryLime">the full set of <em>The Lives of Harry Lime</em> are up on the Internet Archives</a>.
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      CommentAuthormrghosty
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2008
     (24.34)
    F is for fake is perhaps one of my favorite Welles projects, but man there are so many. Touch of Evil, the whole war of the worlds this is perhaps one of the most remarkable. there was this town in washington state called concrete... that had a power outage the same time that Welles was broadcasting war of the worlds. Hysteria ensues. If only this kind of stuff could affect people in this day and age.

    Oh and let's not forget his final performance.. as Unicron in the transformers movie.
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      CommentAuthortonymoore
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2008 edited
     (24.35)
    *edited:
    FOUND IT. hahah
    Welles frustratedly reading schlocky ad copy for frozen foods. Sasha_mak's SCTV bit is pretty much exactly on point.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcYCccE9ziU

    "Get me a jury and show me how you can say "in July" and I'll... go down on you. That's just idiotic, if you'll forgive me by saying so."

    "In the depths of your ignorance, what is it you want?"

    -T
  5.  (24.36)
    Orson Welles threatening people with blowjobs really sums up the 20th century so perfectly.
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      CommentAuthorhowyadoin
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2008
     (24.37)
    Tesla must've had time for 2 or 3 more inventions while he waited for that glass of whiskey.
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      CommentAuthorroque
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2008
     (24.38)
    I loved the Pinky and the Brain takeoff of the frozen foods rant. don't have a link handy though.
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      CommentAuthortonymoore
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2008 edited
     (24.39)
    here's the Pinky and The Brain cartoon take, but with Orson's original audio laid in on it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl_TFyk2GJo

    Coming from a little mouse, his "i'll go down on you" comment is magically even more surreal.

    -T
    • CommentAuthorSasha_mak
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2008 edited
     (24.40)
    Snowball, Brain's rival, is based on Welles.