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    Scientists are to be permitted to use tissue from dead people to create cloned human stem cells for research, under a legal change put forward by the government.

    Health ministers have proposed that laboratories should be allowed to use stored human tissue to create cloned embryonic stem cells without the explicit consent of the tissue donor. This would allow research to be done on tissue donated for medical research as long as 30 years ago. Scientists would also be able to use cells from people who have died since they donated their tissue or who cannot be contacted.

    Ministers have until now insisted that scientists contact tissue donors to gain explicit consent before DNA can be used to create cloned embryonic stem cells.

    Leading scientists, including three Nobel prize winners, say gaining such consent is sometimes impossible because the donors have died, donated anonymously or cannot be contacted. They say the ban on using DNA without consent could hold up vital research.

    Ministers have tabled an amendment to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill, now passing through parliament, which would allow stored tissue and cells to be used without the explicit consent of donors. The amendment, which is expected to be supported by most MPs, will be debated this week.


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    • CommentAuthorjayverni
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
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    This seems kind of scary. I am all for the advancement of science, and its not like I would meet a young me on the streets from this in the next decade or so; but still, it seems to step on the rights of the people who donated. None of the people who donated any of this tissue did so with a thought of clones. I'm sure in the fine print in some of the cases, it said that the tissue could be used for whatever purpose was needed, contracts being what they are in today's society; but again, this could NOT have been in anyones mind as it really was just science fiction until so recently.
    I honestly don't know what to think. Personally, if I gave some type of sample or donated my body to science (they probably wouldn't take it...), I would give it some thought, and would agree with little to no convincing. And I'm guessing that if people were forward thinking enough to leave their bodies to science, they would need very little convincing as well. But the lack of discussion, or even information seems a little overwhelming.
    • CommentAuthorAnopheles
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
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    How is this scary? They're dead.

    Really, if one gives their body to science, I would hope that they would think it throught, and if it meant cloning, I'd still go for it. I'd be glad that my tissue can be used for real science with benefits to mankind long after I'm gone. I'm an organ donor, and I don't care where those organs go when I'm gone, as long as it goes to someone who needs it.

    Hell, even if they cloned another 'me' it would not be 'me'. Go for it. Where can I sign up?
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    I am so giving my body to this science when I die - after the doctors harvest my organs for donation, these scientists can do whatever they want with my DNA. I would sign things. Are there things to sign? I want my corpse to do as much useful shit as possible.
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      CommentAuthorzoem
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
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    rough night: That's my feeling on it, and when I get around to having it legally written down, it's gonna say "Any part of me that can be used in any way to benefit anyone, should."

    And a chorus line rendition of "All of Me", please.

    Nice to see such a reasonable statement of the issue. In the US, there seems to be a lack of distinction in media about embryos vs. full grown humans. But then, there's a cultural confusion over that as well, so perhaps they are just ducking the lowest common denominator before it hits them on the head.