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  1.  (2544.1)
    This is in response to Warren's query about the action/drama animation on American television. There is hardly any that is worthwhile from what I've seen. Nichelodeon has a show called Avatar: The Last Airbender. It's a fantasy adventure with some cool designs. I usually never like the anime inspired style in American animation but this show is worth it. It has an interesting structure, each season is a "book" and each episode is a "chapter" (although it is not based on anything). The last season is completing the trilogy.

    M. Night Shyamalan is adapting it into a live-action trilogy, which isn't a bad choice because he's a solid stylist. (He's not writing an original work with his illogical story sense).

    Anyone else know of anything?
    • CommentAuthorharchangel
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008
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    Ben 10 and it's newly evolved sequel Ben 10: Alien Force

    Has always seemed fairly impressive compared to the abundance of saturday morning trsh that's out there.

    also the Sci-Fi channel ran a pilot of Mike Mignola's The Amazing Screw-On Head that unfortunately didnt get picked up. that was a blast.

    Other than that, nothing really comes to mind.
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    That Clone Wars thing should be out soon. I want to say I read it was going to premiere as a theatrical and then start airing on TNT and Cartoon Network as a series.
    I almost want to throw out the Venture Brothers, though it is classified more as a comedy/parody, there is still plenty of action and adventure to go with the belly laughs.
    • CommentAuthorpi8you
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008 edited
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    Venture Bros. is also readily the most genius American animation around at the moment.

    The list I emailed this morning:

    Avatar: The Last Airbender
    Ben 10/Ben 10: Alien Force
    Boondocks
    Frisky Dingo
    Storm Hawks
    Venture Brothers

    With nods to maybe look at Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Metalocalypse, and if desperate, The Batman and Transformers Animated. Coming up with even that much was tough, and skews outside of the listed scope, but that's the state of things. Can't remember if the Drinky the Crow pilot got picked up for a full run. Marvel's Wolverine and the X-Men is coming soonish, seemingly a spiritual successor to Evolution. And Spike's got a 12-13 episode animated Blade series starting at the end of the month.

    @thekamisama - Yeah, Clone Wars is hitting theaters first with a lead in movie, mid-late summer I think.
    • CommentAuthorharchangel
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008
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    Not sure if you could consider Afro Samurai since it had all american voice talkent and was put out by Spike TV, but that sucker was awesome!
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      CommentAuthorWalker James
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008 edited
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    And Spike's got a 12-13 episode animated Blade series starting at the end of the month.


    Whoa. Must check that out. Almost all of that other stuff is most readily classified as comedy before anything else, or it's just too kiddy to count.

    Venture Bros. is also readily the most genius American animation around at the moment.


    I can easily agree with that though!
    • CommentAuthorchris g
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008
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    The Sensational Spider-Man show is highly enjoyable. They finally nailed the tone by combining the best of the Ditko era with USM and Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane. There's a sprinkle of spider-man 3 in there when he gets the symbiote.

    And of course VENTURE BROS. is pure love.
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    Codename: Kids Next Door is (shit, was, it just wrapped it's run) pretty good for action and adventure. It's kid-faire, but it's more like Get Smart than the usual sugar-pushing toy commercials.

    Amazing Screw-On Head would have been a fantastic show. I worship at the altar of Mike Mignola, so I'm a tad biased.
    • CommentAuthorIsaacSher
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008
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    Is it wrong of me to hope that GLOBAL FREQUENCY could somehow find a home as an animated series? Probably a huge fruitless pipe dream, but hey, I bet there'd be an audience.
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    I still don't understand why that live-action pilot didn't get picked up. But back to existing animation...
    • CommentAuthorpi8you
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008
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    Almost all of that other stuff is most readily classified as comedy before anything else, or it's just too kiddy to count.

    Oh, I know, but as I said, that's the state of things. Avatar does seem to have a fairly decent fanbase in the 18-24 range, Ben 10 and Storm Hawks seem to skew that way as well. Boondocks, for all its comedy, has a mess of absurdly elaborate action in it and some really sharp animation. And Foster's is among the closest I've seen in recent times to capturing the spirit of the old Looney Toons cartoons, layered with stuff for both kids and adults.

    HBO's been running a series of animated shorts from around the world, but I've yet to check it out.
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    "Not sure if you could consider Afro Samurai since it had all american voice talkent and was put out by Spike TV, but that sucker was awesome!"


    I wouldn't consider anything that wasn't at least storyboarded in the U.S. "American animation", so I wouldn't consider "Afro Samurai" American.

    That being said, my industry is shrinking at an alarming rate. There are a few action adventure shows that have a full crew working here like "Spiderman" and "Ben 10", but for television, our days are numbered I'm afraid.
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      CommentAuthorbrittanica
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008
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    the marvelous misadventures of flapjack just premiered last week, and it's actually quite good. it almost feels like an adult swim cartoon for kids, with all its non sequitur humor (but it's good non sequitur, not like aqua teen, which i absolutely hate). also, a certain coilhouse correspondent did some musical work on it.

    and foster's home for imaginary friends is one of the few tv shows i'll actually stop what i'm doing to watch if i come across it.
    • CommentAuthorchris g
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008
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    Dunno if anyone missed the Samurai Jack train, but the box sets are SO worth your time.
    • CommentAuthorScottS
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008
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    I don't know if it's still on the air (I haven't had cable in a long time) but KIM POSSIBLE was very enjoyable.
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      CommentAuthorCyman
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2008
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    It's not a TV show, but on the topic of Japanese anime style cartoons/comics being turned into live action...

    Scott Pilgrim vs. The World starring Michael Cera due out in 2009.
  6.  (2544.17)
    You guys have pretty well covered all the bases here. There's no animated drama on US tv, so you've got to go to comedy instead. Can I just say here that I think an animated Switchblade Honey series would be perfect for Adult Swim? Somebody needs to get on that.

    So, yeah, my list is 100% reruns of what's been said-

    Samurai Jack
    Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends (which doesn't even begin to meet the subject criteria)
    Spectacular Spider-Man
    Metalocalypse
    Venture Bros.

    Also, The Amazing Screw-On Head was fantastic, and unquestionably deserved a full series.
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    It's been said, but yeah, Samurai Jack was the best animated spaghetti western I've ever seen.
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    So that makes Avatar: The Last Airbender and Samurai Jack the only decent animated action/dramas on television. Actually, I'm not sure they still rerun Samurai Jack. (For some reason I haven't seen or heard of that new Spider-man show.)

    Wow, American studios only know how to play a few notes when it comes to animation.
  9.  (2544.20)
    "Wow, American studios only know how to play a few notes when it comes to animation."



    I think it would be more accurate to say that American networks only want to see a few notes.

    Plus its hard to get action adventure shows through the "standards and practices" department of said networks, so doing animated action shows are almost too much trouble to get on the air. Even Bruce Timm's "Batman: the Animated Series" would not be able to pass todays standards and practices gauntlet and probably not air the same way they did back in the late 80's. Trust me I know, I worked on "The Batman" and our hands were constantly being tied by S&P and when we would say, "but the original series got to do it" the answer always amounted to basically "well that was then".