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      CommentAuthorm1k3y
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2008
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    Here be spoilers...

    issue#7 cover

    ...for example: DOK#7 contains such awesome quotes as "What can you do to bring around the real future? Because you know that this isn't worth getting out of bed for."
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    You're a bit keen, aren't you?
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      CommentAuthorGypsy
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2008
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    "What can you do to bring around the real future? Because you know that this isn't worth getting out of bed for."


    Ooooh...

    I really can't wait to get my copy of this...I'm getting squirmy just thinking about it!
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    After reading this issue I am reminded of the apathetic people I’ve known. The smart and talented people who saw all the assholes and stupidity in the world and decided to just not bother being a part of it. They work enough to get by living on the fringes and keeping a low profile. They don’t contribute much of anything to society, don’t expect much in return, and don’t really give a fuck. It’s like objectivisim in reverse.

    Doctor Sleepless is becoming a contemporary reflection of Atlas Shrugged. In Atlas Shrugged Ayn Rand tried to teach people to appreciate what they had and to credit the people responsible. Doctor Sleepless tries to teach us to appreciate what we could have, that we’re all at least a little responsible for not having it, and that we’re not really doing much of anything interesting enough to excuse what we aren’t doing. Warren is exposing the big flaw of free markets and materialism—that people don’t always know, want, or care what’s good for them.
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      CommentAuthorJay Kay
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2008 edited
     (2560.5)
    Some things I noticed:

    * I wonder if the statistics at the beginning of the issue are todays, or if it was slightly exacturated to accomindate for the future. Wouldn't be surprised if it were today's.

    * The Masks: My guess is that they're either part of the Darkening Sky stuff, or linked with the mechanical angels--if they're not linked themselves.

    * "Faces won't be legal forever." Maybe I'm missing something from my caffiene-deprived mind, but is this line foreshadowing more then just the Sleepless Masks?

    * Reinhardt's DNA: My guess is that someone is playing as Reinhardt or the grinds that he's done over the years have completely changed his DNA structure.

    * Why would Sleepless (or, more appropriately, Nurse Igor) possibly have to kill Sing? Hmm. Good little cliffhanger, though.

    * Backmatter: "and (apparently) a hidden bulletin board/community (which I have not found as of yet)." Huuuuunh? Does anyone else know what he's talking about? Any hints? I wanna find this now.
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      CommentAuthorm1k3y
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2008
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    @DarkNightJRK - have a good look around the wiki

    Warren - the parallel between Grinders vs PayCops and Anonymous vs Scientology is pretty strong. Can I ask where the real-world events were when you were scripting this issue?
    (And I must admit, I've gotten bored with Anonymous.. there's another one this weekend I think, but I could care less.. until they get interesting again)
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    Warren - the parallel between Grinders vs PayCops and Anonymous vs Scientology is pretty strong. Can I ask where the real-world events were when you were scripting this issue?

    I did some rewriting -- this was after the first big public event.
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    History begat politics begat art begat griefer protesters begat art. This would make an awesome episode of connections in which Burke somehow explains how a syphilis epidemic in 1199 was indirectly responsible for Warren’s work.
    • CommentAuthorStin
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2008
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    I found it especially interesting that there is a culture of people in Heavenside that produce free art and leave it for others to distribute. When Sing and the bar owner both found the boxes of masks they assumed they had been left by a random group of people for them to distribute. Almost as if the youtube/blogger era of people generating free content went all the way around when the community at large internalized the internet and began generating things in real 3d space because there was nowhere else to host anything.
    Similar to the way the Sleepless broadcasts are real time radio broadcasts and not podcasts or something of that nature.
    Which makes me wonder about the state of the internet in Heavenside in general, Clatter and the shriekygirls especially are stripped down basic internal methods of experiencing AIM and Twitter like services without actually having to use anything other than the human body and a little tech to access them.
    Which begs the question what happened to the internet?

    Also, unless I'm mistaken, first clear look at the Dok's eyes?
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    “Welcome to the man who wanted
    Everything but couldn’t have it.”

    That’s from the song Welcome by Slipknot, my background music of the moment. Rang a bell.
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2008 edited
     (2560.11)
    Another solid issue. The Anonymous reference was pretty cool. A comic nodding to real life, nodding to a comic. "The circle is complete!"

    Also, I reeeeeeeeeeeaally enjoyed the bit on Sci-Fi/Futurism in the back.
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    @Stin
    Which begs the question what happened to the internet?

    It's still there - see issue #2. What exact form it has taken isn't clear by the picture though.


    Also, unless I'm mistaken, first clear look at the Dok's eyes?

    Sorry, mistaken - he's had his goggles off before in previous issues.
    Although in this issue has the lenses to his goggles are so much clearer, compared to previous issues.
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    @warrenellis

    Is Jessie short for Jessica? Or are they two separate characters?
    She still seems out of it, so she could be, but I'm not sure - she could just be that apathetic.
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    lol@ the movie on page 1. Obviously a shitty Hollywood adaptation of Charles Burns' BLACK HOLE, no?
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    Is Jessie short for Jessica? Or are they two separate characters?


    Two seperate characters.
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    @warrenellis

    Thanks.
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      CommentAuthorm1k3y
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2008
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    I liked the revelation that with his patent for implantable tags he basically invented the Future he hates so much.
    It helps explain his drive to fix it, to fix to the folly of his youth.

    "Changing the world is easy... the really tough thing is figuring out that no-one really gives a shit"

    Maturity has given him wisdom, and he's set to tackle the "aggressive apathy" that's infected the world.
    Society is a lot harder and trickier to hack...
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      CommentAuthorjoe.distort
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2008 edited
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    HELP! someone just asked me about DOK ending at number 8- i have not heard anything about that. please tell me they were given wrong information as i was under the impression this was an ongoing.
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    It is an ongoing. VOLUME ONE is issues 1 to 8.
    • CommentAuthorStin
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2008
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    Thanks for the direction Spiraltwist!
    I am now frantically digging through longboxes so I can re-read the first arc in one sitting when the next one comes out.

    It was cool for me that he realized he can't fix society with a new technology, but is now trying to fix society by directing them through his old tech.