Whitechapel - MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free Fri, 24 May 2013 09:51:25 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=59751#Comment_59751 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=59751#Comment_59751 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:28:49 -0700 philnelson
It's called MagCloud. Basically, it looks like they want to take all the boring numbers+fulfillment parts of out of creating and printing a meatspace magazine. You upload a PDF, they take care of shipping, subscription management, orders and printing. It's partially started by Derek Powazek from, amongst other things, Fray and JPG magazine.

I know there's some publishing people on the board, here, and I'm interested in what they have to say especially.

From what I can see, there's no scifi mags on the site yet. Anyone up to trying to change that with me? Quite a lot of talent kicking around the ol' WHITECHAPEL... ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=59756#Comment_59756 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=59756#Comment_59756 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:49:20 -0700 muse hick MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=59809#Comment_59809 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=59809#Comment_59809 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:09:44 -0700 Ananzitusq MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=191711#Comment_191711 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=191711#Comment_191711 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:04:45 -0700 warrenellis
They're still, I personally think, a little too pricy to mainstream: 20 US cents per page, so a 20pp page is four US dollars cost before you add your own mark-up. Which probably means a 20pp mag will retail for five or six bucks plus postage. And I know some people find that a little expensive.

I personally would buy any number of interesting POD magazines at that price, mind. I've got Mal Jones' MagCloud mag in my shopping cart there, waiting for another 2 or 3 mags to buy before I pull the trigger.

I would LOVE it if more people started producing through MagCloud. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=191791#Comment_191791 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=191791#Comment_191791 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:37:30 -0700 philnelson MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=191810#Comment_191810 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=191810#Comment_191810 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:37:26 -0700 stevencudahy
Currently thinking through the problems of giving a magazine a reason to exist if a text is already freely available on a website - there would clearly be a need for something extra to make it worth the outlay (aside from the obvious preference many people have for reading fiction on paper rather than a screen), although, returning to Dickens, the addition of a Phiz-type illustrator would help things along. How much extra content makes something like that worthwhile? Or, possibly, you could have three or four different writers each putting out a monthly serial and combining them in a magazine... sorry, thinking out loud about whether you could even return to a sort of monthlies-for-prose-fiction kind of model. It'd end up costing what, sixty to seventy-two bucks for the whole thing (assuming a twelve-month run) so it'd have to be a bit fucking special... or perhaps people don't think of that kind of purchasing in terms of the final total, I don't know.

Also contemplating what kind of fiction works best in this kind of environment. Ulysses? Probably not so much, but something fast and pulpy with a decent cliffhanger at the end of each installment? Hell yeah. I'd buy that if it looked good enough on a free read of the first chapter. Especially if MagCloud gets to the point of offering some sort of subscription model with a reduced price.

Of course, the main issue with stepping outside the mainstream is missing out on good editorial support, although going traditional is no guarantee of that...

Sorry, I'll stop cluttering the place up and go do some more thinking in private.

S. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=191811#Comment_191811 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=191811#Comment_191811 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:39:39 -0700 warrenellis MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=191822#Comment_191822 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=191822#Comment_191822 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:28:14 -0700 stevencudahy
Thanks for the response. On the whole, I think I probably agree with you, but I'm still intrigued by the MagCloud thing. I'm going to give it some more thought and see if there's a valid way of making something work.

S. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=192036#Comment_192036 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=192036#Comment_192036 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:57:14 -0700 Henchbot Its not that the crowd up there is a forgiving sort, its that for my first mag ever: they wont know better. My very own test tube.
Ive been building this for months since I stumbled over it somewhere in here.
i am very very excited.
If it goes well then the next one I build will be featuring my beehives.
oh fuckit, goes well or not, im doing the bees next. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=192889#Comment_192889 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=192889#Comment_192889 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:16:15 -0700 warrenellis
In the UK, Newspaper Club is going live in January. This is an emergent space. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=192896#Comment_192896 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=192896#Comment_192896 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:24:38 -0700 lampcommander MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=192939#Comment_192939 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=192939#Comment_192939 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:10:48 -0700 Kosmopolit MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193075#Comment_193075 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193075#Comment_193075 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:20:47 -0700 halcyonday Strange Light, the print quality is fantastic and minus the delay from some DHL delivery shenanigans (dear DHL, strange but true, I work between the hours of 9 & 5...) it took about a week from my order to the printed copy's first attempt at being delivered.

I'm already pondering some ideas to try it out myself, I could def. see it being useful for knitting pattern collections because you don't have to make a minimum order and then live with it all while you sell/ship it and people can always order it as and when they come across your patterns. Plus, you can edit it when errors need correcting, so future purchases will have the most up-to-date version without having to stick errata sheets in. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193086#Comment_193086 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193086#Comment_193086 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:47:39 -0700 frenchbloke
Mind you my tastes for the infeasibly hard to find, rare odd gems that nobody bought at the time or things you just can't buy any more far outstrips the new releases and currently available material at least 20 - 1 ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193087#Comment_193087 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193087#Comment_193087 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:02:37 -0700 Kosmopolit
Permanence, transportability and image quality, I guess.

I tend to doubt a lot of people will be paying for primarily text material via Magcloud.

The Sydney dust storm had immediacy and interesting visuals.

Maybe there's scope for a mag about a band based around a specific live performance.

Hoping I'm making sense here. Haven't slept a lot lately. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193089#Comment_193089 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193089#Comment_193089 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:20:49 -0700 JRadley
The pricing is a little high, I agree, but five or six USD? I used to pay the equivalent back in the day for mail order issues of mags like Back Brain Recluse or Aboriginal SF, and that was more of a shot in the dark as there were no interwebs to see previews on.

I'm a little surprised there hasn't been a stampede of the younger, cooler Whitechapelites announcing their own Coilhouse type projects... ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193093#Comment_193093 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193093#Comment_193093 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:06:44 -0700 Aurora Borealis
So until they reach the EU, I am unable to buy or make anything. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193111#Comment_193111 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193111#Comment_193111 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:18:25 -0700 Lucifal Murky Depths. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193123#Comment_193123 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193123#Comment_193123 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:57:37 -0700 warrenellis
(Yes, I deleted a couple of posts.) ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193237#Comment_193237 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193237#Comment_193237 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:42:44 -0700 Twist
I'm looking at magcloud as an option for something that's still in the top secret planning stage (mainly so if I get bored I don't have other people pestering me about it). My concerns are only about quality, I plan on hunting through and ordering a few things off there to see what it's like. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193280#Comment_193280 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193280#Comment_193280 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:41:18 -0700 Lucifal warrenellis What's the issue with their licensing? I logged in to MagCloud today to be informed the terms had changed. However, the bit that bothered me was under the Publication Terms:
you grant to HP a transferable, non-exclusive, fully-paid, worldwide, license (sublicensable through multiple tiers) to use (and permit others to use), distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform, publicly display, and otherwise exploit, your User Publication (including any text, graphics, photographs, or other content contained in your User Publication), in whole or in part, in any format or medium now known or later developed,
]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193283#Comment_193283 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193283#Comment_193283 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:58:17 -0700 oddbill
By submitting a User Publication to HP through the Service, and as a condition of HP making the User Publication available through the Service,
you grant to HP a transferable, non-exclusive, fully-paid, worldwide, license (sublicensable through multiple tiers) to use (and permit others to use), distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform, publicly display, and otherwise exploit, your User Publication (including any text, graphics, photographs, or other content contained in your User Publication), in whole or in part, in any format or medium now known or later developed,
solely for the purposes of providing and promoting the Service and other aspects of the MagCloud Network. HP reserves the right to display advertisements in connection with User Publications and to use portions of User Publications (other than those you have restricted third parties from viewing) for advertising and promotional purposes. The licenses granted herein with respect to any of your User Publications shall be perpetual and shall continue unless and until that User Publication is properly removed from the Service in accordance with these Publication Terms, at which time the licenses granted herein shall continue only to the extent necessary for HP to fulfill any existing obligations to MagCloud users and other third parties. Notwithstanding the foregoing, you retain ownership of any intellectual property rights you may have in your User Publications.

(Italicised and bolded bits are mine)

The italicised bit is the bit you've pulled out - the bolded bits are important. Since this is a worldwide POD service, you have to grant many of these rights in order for them to legally print your magazine on demand. The rest of it is aimed at giving MagCloud maximum leeway to use the content of available magazines offered through their service in advertisements. This covers them for simple things like posting thumbnails of the covers on the website, or images of the interiors on TV commercials, etc, anywhere globally. And that is further limited by being revoked if you remove your magazine offering from their service.

All in all, it doesn't seem onerous to me. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193286#Comment_193286 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193286#Comment_193286 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:35:36 -0700 Twist
*Sigh* And Constellations looked like it was worth picking up too :( ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193290#Comment_193290 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193290#Comment_193290 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:26:24 -0700 Lucifal MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193341#Comment_193341 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=193341#Comment_193341 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:05:20 -0700 James Puckett All in all, it doesn't seem onerous to me.

It’s really not much different from standard printer/designer contracts that allow printing of a hundred extra copies to retain as samples for future customers. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=195188#Comment_195188 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=195188#Comment_195188 Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:16:00 -0700 maljones All in all, it doesn't seem onerous to me.
It isn't nefarious at all. Like it's been mentioned a bit already, it's just for promotional needs. I wouldn't have done Potboiler through them if anything wacky was going on.
I'm tempted to try it to see what the quality is like.

The quality is really fucking ridiculous. Vibrant clear colors, with everything looking nearly exactly as I hoped (blues are bit darker then I thought they would be, but that's it). It's so easy to use, that it's a bummer to see more people NOT making some nice 8 1/2 x 11 sized comics on it.

An easy way to test would be to just order up a few, rather different, magazines and see how they look and compare.

I'll be a shill for MagCloud for a long while if they keep in the direction they're going. They've been nothing but supportive and accommodating. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=196036#Comment_196036 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=196036#Comment_196036 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:43:34 -0700 lampcommander An article about the progress of reading and writing through the ages - mainly about how advances in internet writing are stagnant/nonexistent, and and earlier article from the same series with some good anecdotes. Courtesy my wife who is in a Lit Phd program and gets too-fascinating articles all the damn time. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=196047#Comment_196047 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=196047#Comment_196047 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:11:25 -0700 oldhat Humanity + with hungry eyes. Hopefully by next week or so I'll be able to afford a couple of issues.

I'd love to see something come from both Warren and Avatar Press in MagCloud. I know Mark was talking about having a channel devoted to comics, maybe a monthly magazine featuring interviews, emerging artists and just what the hell goes on in the business about is a nice first step? ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=196092#Comment_196092 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=196092#Comment_196092 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 07:24:34 -0700 kperkins Seriously. $.20 + a page is high, and may be OK for individuals, or some special things, or, even, convenience (especially for the artist/niche publisher) but as a buyer with limited income, I need to think about buying something this expensive, and whether or not the experience is worth it. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=196096#Comment_196096 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=196096#Comment_196096 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:07:04 -0700 warrenellis
And, yes, if your income is limited enough that you have to weigh five or six dollars carefully, then obviously buying MagCloud magazines isn't for you... ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=196868#Comment_196868 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=196868#Comment_196868 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:36:09 -0700 warrenellis
(And before someone gives me shit about that, let me remind you that I've been involved in the printing of things, in one way or another, for twenty five years now, and the chances are better than even that I know more about it than you do.)

Also, they smell a bit like new carpets. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=197058#Comment_197058 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=197058#Comment_197058 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:35:36 -0700 maljones
Now to actually start working on issue two.

What all did you pick up? ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=197068#Comment_197068 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=197068#Comment_197068 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:36:18 -0700 warrenellis MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=203863#Comment_203863 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=203863#Comment_203863 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:15:14 -0800 Endjinn have to see what the charges are, but otherwise im absolutely getting involved in that.

its funny how credible and proffesional something looks when its printed large on the cheapest paper and cheapest ink.
looks fantastic.

Does anywhere else do this already? ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=203896#Comment_203896 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=203896#Comment_203896 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:29:45 -0800 lampcommander
BTW for anyone wondering, proofs are free with 1.40 shipping! ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=203923#Comment_203923 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=203923#Comment_203923 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:02:23 -0800 dispophoto MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=203961#Comment_203961 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=203961#Comment_203961 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:40:56 -0800 dispophoto
Vagina monologues
Inside the memory book ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=205867#Comment_205867 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=205867#Comment_205867 Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:25:01 -0800 lampcommander
My Magcloud creation is now available for anyone willing to investigate. Only three bucks.

And dispop, that mag looks sweet. The pics are clear, I've been pretty impressed overall with the print quality. Post a link? ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=209182#Comment_209182 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=209182#Comment_209182 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:48:36 -0800 spinnerin retrospective of essays, photos, and other things I created in 2009.

I'm really impressed with the print quality. The photos and text both look great. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=222784#Comment_222784 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=222784#Comment_222784 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:11:35 -0800 tcatsninfan MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=224334#Comment_224334 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=224334#Comment_224334 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:16:38 -0800 steevo
LAD Cover

Just ordered my proof copy tonight.
Life After Death

ETA: Cover by the very talented Mr. Andrew Howard. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=224381#Comment_224381 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=224381#Comment_224381 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:56:31 -0800 texture MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=225726#Comment_225726 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=225726#Comment_225726 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:06:40 -0700 steevo
PS. Magcloud is having a 25% off sale on all mags till the 21st.

PPS. See the website for what details are now available, plus other stuff: http://lifeafterdeath-comp.blogspot.com/. Also, any comments/suggestions/hate mails are more than welcome!

PPPS. Thanks Texture! I didn't even see your comment when I reposted these somehow. ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=225753#Comment_225753 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=225753#Comment_225753 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:03:23 -0700 steevo
http://magcloud.com/user/steevo

It's awesome.

ETA. Or click on this fancy little button!







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Are there any similar services to MagCloud, some site that publishes magazines? ]]> MagCloud - Printing Your Own Magazines For Free http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=226225#Comment_226225 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2624&Focus=226225#Comment_226225 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:55:34 -0700 Cameron C.