2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62084#Comment_62084 2008-06-25T16:27:30-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2

Okay. Out today in the USA. HUGE BLOODY SPOILERS BEYOND THIS POINT, as ever. Seen it? Read it? - W

Seen it? Read it?

- W]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62098#Comment_62098 2008-06-25T16:51:30-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Egon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=698

It was pretty bitchin'. I can't say it was as epic as seeing John Hours address the White House Press Corps, but I'll certainly be around for Issue #1.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62104#Comment_62104 2008-06-25T17:19:29-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 MikeB_Cinci http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3105

Saw it, read it, am really looking forward to it. I like the references to the Levellers and the Diggers, and I'm really hoping to see if there are more connections to be played out. I like the ...

I like the ideas being bounced around.
Strong start, and looking forward to see what's next.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62106#Comment_62106 2008-06-25T17:28:56-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 McLean http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3823

Read it and am already a tingle for more. I particularly enjoyed the abridged evolution we saw of the group and the hints at repercussions of choosing to be one of the superheroes. Snakes, ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62113#Comment_62113 2008-06-25T17:46:43-07:00 2008-06-25T17:48:09-07:00 muse hick http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=483

io9 maybe of some interest

io9

maybe of some interest]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62134#Comment_62134 2008-06-25T20:37:39-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 James Cunningham http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2925

More please! Seriously, nice prologue. I'm very much looking forward to seeing where this goes. I also like how becoming a super hero requires a scary level of short-sighted obsession.

Seriously, nice prologue. I'm very much looking forward to seeing where this goes. I also like how becoming a super hero requires a scary level of short-sighted obsession.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62135#Comment_62135 2008-06-25T20:56:15-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 knome514 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=683

i really enjoy the tone of these Ellis/Ryp books. I'm very excited about No Hero, i'm ready for more, but i'm dying for Black Summer to conclude!

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62150#Comment_62150 2008-06-25T22:32:57-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 carney http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1415

Looks to be good. I think this would make a killer movie thus far. I noticed that the last date was 2011, is it going to end on 2012 with the reference to the Mayan calender stuff. Ruff ...

Ruff sketch of a book I'm working. With a reference to the catal hyuk deity. Which I made a mushroom hermaphrodite bee being.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62175#Comment_62175 2008-06-26T01:56:58-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 helenforsdale http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3735

picked it up today. definitely has that ellis sense of mystery and intrigue to it - that great energy. you know, those sort of electrical under-currents. what i want to know is - how many different ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62185#Comment_62185 2008-06-26T03:27:07-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 James O'Dwyer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3591

There is something about seeing a superhuman being infernokrushed into (presumably) dust particles that says "So, asshole, are you going to buy #1 now? Or do I have to get nasty?" Add to ...

Add to that eminently eloquent request the additional arguments of an enticing storyline, interesting premise, as well as the appropriate and gratifyingly excellent art accompanying it, and I think I'll be in the majority camp saying "Please don't rip my face off, Mr Gas Mask Man, I'll get it, okay? See? I'm getting out my wallet now...".

I am truly interested to see what focus the series takes, and what characters the story/ies are told through. It promises to be an interesting journey. I look forward to it.

Benedictions.

...off-topic, the urge to buy a gas mask grows stronger as the years go on. Damn you Ellis, Damn you Gaiman, Damn you Dr Who, Damn you Steampunk, and Damn all post-apocalyptic wastelands. I will not succumb to your siren song of awesome, freaky fashion!]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62234#Comment_62234 2008-06-26T09:18:17-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Stoto http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=757

Just read it outside a pub, with a pint and a side order of sunshine. What a bloody great afternoon it was. I get so excited about these Ellis/RyP projects, I'm totally on board for the rest. Loved ...

I get so excited about these Ellis/RyP projects, I'm totally on board for the rest.
Loved how brutal it was to see the mutilated Judex still alive. "There's no fucking blood in him, how can he still be alive, no fucking way man..."
Thank you avatar for not being afraid to feed me this subhuman grot which I so adore.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62281#Comment_62281 2008-06-26T15:52:47-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Necros http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1325

All i can say is Issue 0 is fucking incredible. I have to wait until August for issue 1 but I am waiting eagerly.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62373#Comment_62373 2008-06-27T03:33:11-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 nigredo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2373

Got it and read it yesterday. The main reason I went for it is the premise, I have to admit. The political implications of having superhuman powers have been insufficiently explored, as have been the ...

Enough information and hints to get us hooked and in eight pages no less! Good stuff.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62393#Comment_62393 2008-06-27T05:55:35-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930

Quite good, quite good. However, how the hell are you supposed to function on FX7? Looks like the meanest trip I've ever seen...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62432#Comment_62432 2008-06-27T08:49:25-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 helloMuller http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=560

Just scrolled past all the comments – I'm picking it up tonight at my LCS, read it, and then report back.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62435#Comment_62435 2008-06-27T09:04:27-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 shad0903 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1280

It would be a shame if DC or Marvel ever got their claws into RYP and Avatar lost his great talent.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62485#Comment_62485 2008-06-27T14:09:42-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Dan B. http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3814

I read and enjoyed it. The level of detail Ryp puts in is amazing. It can be both beautiful and disturbing. Then there's the way Masterson is described as "One part Lex Luthor to one part ...

Then there's the way Masterson is described as "One part Lex Luthor to one part Timothy Leary." Piqued my interest. Of course, you know when you see someone wearing an all white suit, that's bad news.

I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62502#Comment_62502 2008-06-27T15:30:17-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 joe.distort http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1173

you know when you see someone wearing an all white suit, that's bad news. SCREW THAT! white suits are the shit. of course that may just mean im more villain than hero, but hey...

you know when you see someone wearing an all white suit, that's bad news.

SCREW THAT! white suits are the shit. of course that may just mean im more villain than hero, but hey...]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62513#Comment_62513 2008-06-27T16:25:41-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 zacharius http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1077

It's hard to know what to think when ryp draws everyone with a sinister expression. kind of makes it hard to take a character at face value. it took me awhile to 'get' what warren is doing with ...

it took me awhile to 'get' what warren is doing with this, at least here at the start, but I won't spoil it this early. you'll figure it out if you read his iron man, and/or some terrence mckenna.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62682#Comment_62682 2008-06-28T16:43:49-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Cyman http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1925

Of course it was good, and I read it and enjoyed it, but seriously... Desolation Jones, Doktor Sleepless, No Hero-- Too similar for me. I think Desolation Jones is thus far your finest work, sir, ...

Desolation Jones, Doktor Sleepless, No Hero-- Too similar for me. I think Desolation Jones is thus far your finest work, sir, or my favorite anyway, and the similarities between that and this are just very striking to me. Throw in some more socio-political type stuff empowering the individual and we have Transmet. Maybe it's a great thing that these all exist, because they are of course nuanced in certain ways, different things going on, different messages; I just hope Desolation Jones continues and isn't being replaced by these (IMO lesser) books.

And all the FX7 stuff feels to me like it belongs in a Captain America book, or from that X-Files episode Sleepless, where they breed the super soldiers and one effect is they don't require sleep, and they have total Saint of Killers mentality about everything and life is so hard, and they're suchvictims yadda yadda.

Anyway, I consider myself a loyal Ellis fan at this point, and I know all these projects are going to be (and are) great, but don't think I'm going to go out and buy EVERYTHING you write like this.

Long story short: Wah, wah, when do I get Desolation Jones 9?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62688#Comment_62688 2008-06-28T17:24:43-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 zoem http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1959

Hmm. I think while this is in the same key as other works, it's not all one note. I don't find myself knowing where these works are going - even if I might know what some of the themes might be. ...

So yeah, I'm way excited for more No Hero, more Doktor Sleepless, more Deslolation Jones, and goddammit MORE FELL. Which is really, in a totally different key. There are quite a few Ellis works that I don't get into for whatever reason, but I guess I feel exactly the opposite of Cyman - you can count on me to buy things in this vein. ;)]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62693#Comment_62693 2008-06-28T18:00:38-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 stsparky http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2311

Part Lex Luthor and Tim? This doesn't bode well. And the bit about booby traps and 'special insider' knowledge is bothersome.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62707#Comment_62707 2008-06-28T20:08:40-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 trini_naenae http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=183

I'm interested enough to probably read the first story arc, even though there are things that seriously ickle me out (as did Desolation Jones).

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62877#Comment_62877 2008-06-29T22:13:29-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Rockin' Rich http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=607

I liked it. Though I bailed on Black Summer (but will catch up with it in the future), I'll try to stay current with this one. And Ryp is, indeed, a trip.

Black Summer (but will catch up with it in the future), I'll try to stay current with this one.

And Ryp is, indeed, a trip.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=62917#Comment_62917 2008-06-30T03:25:23-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 helloMuller http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=560

Great stuff. Love the historical backdrop and the evolution/incarnations of the team. Nice cliffhanger as well. Looking forward to the rest!

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63088#Comment_63088 2008-06-30T23:16:44-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Kerova http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3778

I like interesting alternate takes on the hero genre. I found the idea of a persons physical make up drastically changing - so they're not even really human anymore - intriguing. I've seen many ...

I found the idea of a persons physical make up drastically changing - so they're not even really human anymore - intriguing. I've seen many conventional scenes of an "invulnerable" body being able to take a super hero punch, but I've never seen how much more it could take as shown with the still living body on the table. Creepy man.
Looking forward to the next installments.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63114#Comment_63114 2008-07-01T01:56:42-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 edkaye http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3789

Oh yeah, forgot to post that I read it. It was a good teaser. Too early really to say much really, but there were some very interesting concepts in there. A chemist that creates his own superheroes? ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63117#Comment_63117 2008-07-01T02:06:36-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Brandon Seifert http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=333

Desolation Jones, Doktor Sleepless, No Hero-- Too similar for me.Um... ... ... ... Would you mind explaining this? Because what possible similarities there might be between those three ...

Desolation Jones, Doktor Sleepless, No Hero-- Too similar for me.Um...

...

...

...

Would you mind explaining this? Because what possible similarities there might be between those three books are completely escaping me.

To me, it sounds like saying Mek, Transmet and Doom 2099 were too similar... but in that case, since they're all set in the future, I actually see a point of commonality.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63206#Comment_63206 2008-07-01T10:18:13-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Douglas http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1030

I liked it enough to ask for a box-subscription. Very interesting concept.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63252#Comment_63252 2008-07-01T12:15:50-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Johnny California http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3854

For me there is a lot of similarity between Black Summer, No Hero and maybe Authority, but that's not really a turn-off. Also, the fact that Ryp is on No Hero and Black Summer may contribute a lot to ...

I can see "some" similarity between Doktor Sleepless, Transmet and even Anna Mercury in tone as well as Desolation Jones and Fell or Red, but not enough to turn me off those titles by any means.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63263#Comment_63263 2008-07-01T13:19:25-07:00 2008-07-01T13:20:35-07:00 muse hick http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=483

isn't it inevitable that products from one writer are going to have a certain similarity in tone? don't people check out different titles from a writer because they liked a particular story that they ...

i think it is inevitable when someone is exploring ideas they are interested in that too will produce similarities. the frameworks may occasionally be similar that those ideas are mapped onto, but i don't think they are trying to do the same things each time. you can't please everyone all of the time.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63272#Comment_63272 2008-07-01T13:39:39-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930

Thank you, muse hick, for saying what I wanted to but didn't know how. That happens to me all the damn time on the forum. Everyone here is smarter than me...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63302#Comment_63302 2008-07-01T15:16:30-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 zacharius http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1077

black summer and newuniversal both play off similar ideas of how the powers that be react to superhumans. the authority and nextwave both take an essentially absurd approach to superhero fight ...

thunderbolts covers some of the same ground as DV8 way back in the day with casts full of loathsome deviants, in horrible situations.

the similarities in works are not as obvious as one might think.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63314#Comment_63314 2008-07-01T15:49:29-07:00 2008-07-01T15:50:21-07:00 Ecksearoh http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=880

Would you mind explaining this? Because what possible similarities there might be between those three books are completely escaping me. I think he's saying that at this point, with the backlog of ...

Would you mind explaining this? Because what possible similarities there might be between those three books are completely escaping me.

I think he's saying that at this point, with the backlog of books behind him, this feels like Warren is repeating himself. And it does. No Hero and Doktor Sleepless feel like retreads, so did Desolation Jones.

Druid, Ruins, Metalscream 2099, Pryde and Wisdom, Ocean, Ministry of Space, Crecy, Aetheric Mechanics, Newuniversal, Nextwave, Ultimate Galactus, and Thunderbolts all actually felt new. Like something I'd never seen before in quite that way, and so did Black Summer.

But Desolation Jones, and Doktor Sleepless just feel like Transmetropolitan in new skin, irregardless of the fact that they are not. The same goes for No Hero, it has a completely different empowerment principle, and a different founding ethos. But it comes from the same politics, the same disenfranchised yet affluent, white empowerment fantasy, and has similar design semiotics because he's using the artist from Black Summer.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63342#Comment_63342 2008-07-01T17:02:38-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 muse hick http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=483

some further thoughts

some further thoughts]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=63403#Comment_63403 2008-07-01T21:33:52-07:00 2008-07-01T21:36:18-07:00 Douglas http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1030

What is No Hero a retread of? I don't understand what you are saying. I guess it shares some similarities with Black Summer. Kind of. Really broad similarities, like the creative team and the ...

What about Desolation Jones? What is that retreading? I guess it owes a bit to Chandler, but what else is it retreading?

You need to explain yourself.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=64358#Comment_64358 2008-07-04T23:55:55-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Cyman http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1925

I know there have to be similarities, and I know it's ridiculous for me to judge on an issue #0, certainly the plots could branch any number of places, I just felt that No Hero 0 has a similar enough ...

But there is a clear common theme in Transmet, Desolation Jones, Dok Sleepless and now No Hero-- Not necessarily a bad thing, but not boding particularly well for me personally. No Biggy.

What it means to be a hero, how do we influence what the world is, or think about what the world is, or whether those two are the same thing, the cost of superpowers (tie Ultimate Human here, too), inspiring people just to be that positive change they want to see, be it by science, vigilanteism, journalism, vigilante journalism.

What these 4 characters have in common is the lack of fear-- Desolation Jones has no reason to fear anything after what he's been through, The No Hero guys are all-powerful, Dok Sleepless is Science Jesus, Spider is completely incommensurable with fear, and they're all in the apocolyptic-ish future doing reasonably similar vigilant type things.

They're similarities. It's the same writer. It's noticable. But the premise is so great and there are so many different ways to take something like that that it deserves 4 books. Really, I wish all writers (and readers) would think this critically about the world they live in; it's really awesome and I'm glad it's reaching a large audience, but just from the way I seem to be interpreting them-- I don't want to see the premise set up anymore, I know the premise, I want to see the later issues. So I'm simply saying, if Warren has that kind of control over the way he budgets his time, this one particular whiny fan would rather see the established books develop than see a 'new' similar book launched. Maybe it has more to do with the artist and the publisher and the editor and whatever, I just mean if Warren is sitting saying, "Should I write more Jones today or start a completely new thing?" One vote for the former.

For me, I read Desolation Jones first, so I could never call it a re-tread, and I think calling them 'Transmet in new skin' is blasphemous and preposterous. And after all the little details settle, I think Desolation Jones has the best looking set up to take it in so many crazy directions. He's the freest character. Nothing to lose, solo freelance type just wanting to expose some shit. He's the greatest and I want him. That is all.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=64366#Comment_64366 2008-07-05T01:12:02-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 joe.distort http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1173

wow, i just dont get this. even in the books i didnt like ive never really thought warren was treading ground he had already walked...ESPECIALLY based on a preview setup of a story we havent even ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=64391#Comment_64391 2008-07-05T04:36:14-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2

Wow. Desolation Jones has no reason to fear anything after what he's been through, Not quite what's happening there. The No Hero guys are all-powerful Well, quite clearly, they're ...

Desolation Jones has no reason to fear anything after what he's been through,

Not quite what's happening there.

The No Hero guys are all-powerful

Well, quite clearly, they're not.

Dok Sleepless is Science Jesus,

Well, Dok Sleepless is insane.

Spider is completely incommensurable with fear,

I don't think you have the evidence to back that up.

and they're all in the apocolyptic-ish future

No, Desolation Jones isn't.

doing reasonably similar vigilant type things.

?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=64844#Comment_64844 2008-07-06T01:33:29-07:00 2008-07-06T14:14:18-07:00 edkaye http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3789

Guys, are you really judging the whole story-line from a $1 #0 issue. For all you know all all the super beings could be wiped out by Robot Zombie Pirates in the next issue, who will flood the world ...

@warrenellis if that does happen I'll expect my name to appear in the credits :)]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=64867#Comment_64867 2008-07-06T04:41:25-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 William Christensen http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5

@edkaye - Bwahaha! Err, not quite, but God Damn did I get a good laugh out of that! Look folks, No Hero is not like anything you have ever read. Really. So hang tight and enjoy the ride, this ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=64879#Comment_64879 2008-07-06T07:01:39-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Spiraltwist http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=426

So hang tight and enjoy the ride, this book is going to once again embarass the "big two" as Warren and Ryp school them on how to do masked hero books. That's a great line, btw.

So hang tight and enjoy the ride, this book is going to once again embarass the "big two" as Warren and Ryp school them on how to do masked hero books.

That's a great line, btw.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=65043#Comment_65043 2008-07-06T17:37:46-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 TenshiAkui http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3873

Well just sat down and took time to finaly read NO HERO 0. Very entertaining... definatly one I'm going to add to my list of must gets. One part did make me giggle... the date of the apperance ...

Very entertaining... definatly one I'm going to add to my list of must gets.

One part did make me giggle... the date of the apperance of the Levelers 6/6/66

Is that a subtle hint to something Warren?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=65047#Comment_65047 2008-07-06T17:51:40-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2

One part did make me giggle... the date of the apperance of the Levelers 6/6/66 The joke was just laying there. I had to pick it up.

One part did make me giggle... the date of the apperance of the Levelers 6/6/66

The joke was just laying there. I had to pick it up.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=65052#Comment_65052 2008-07-06T18:04:00-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 TenshiAkui http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3873

The joke was just laying there. I had to pick it up. Hehe That's what I love about your books, you make me giggle.

The joke was just laying there. I had to pick it up.

Hehe That's what I love about your books, you make me giggle.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=65097#Comment_65097 2008-07-06T21:00:57-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 edkaye http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3789

@William Christensen Thanks, I think my mind is a little warped :)

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=65131#Comment_65131 2008-07-06T22:49:19-07:00 2008-07-06T22:58:27-07:00 Cyman http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1925

Clearly I'm projecting. And it should go without saying that everything I say ever is in fact 'in my opinion' or 'how it seems to me'. Warren says it's not in the text, so it must just be a ...

And it should go without saying that everything I say ever is in fact 'in my opinion' or 'how it seems to me'. Warren says it's not in the text, so it must just be a personal thing. I seem to relate to the books similarly-- or certain elements grip me more than others.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=65353#Comment_65353 2008-07-07T14:35:26-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 Miranda's Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1443

I admit to being initially dubious about NO HERO's premise. OOH, San Francisco-style corruption generally seems less nasty compared to what you can find in Los Angeles or Mexico. OTOH, San ...

The initial chapter definitely piqued my interest, and I'm hoping that Ryp didn't go blind drawing that image of the drugged-up and cut open superbeing.

NO HERO also promises to be a more adult take on the pervert suit genre. The typical DC/Marvel approach treats superherodom as a sort of fantastic merit badge or affliction. But this dramatic approach squeezes out a lot of possibilities for considering human frailties or obsessions.

The mainstream comics companies (DC for sure, I'm not sure about Marvel) treat being a superhero as the fantasy equivalent of celebrity culture. NO HERO sounds as if it promises to allude to the darker side of celebrityhood beginning with the excessive drug use.

Traditional superhero fans will probably have aneurysms over NO HERO's portrayal of superbeings working on the side of good. But sunshine, why do you think the title of this comic is NO HERO?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=65357#Comment_65357 2008-07-07T14:42:48-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2

I admit to being initially dubious about NO HERO's premise. OOH, San Francisco-style corruption generally seems less nasty compared to what you can find in Los Angeles or Mexico. OTOH, San Francisco ...

I admit to being initially dubious about NO HERO's premise. OOH, San Francisco-style corruption generally seems less nasty compared to what you can find in Los Angeles or Mexico. OTOH, San Francisco made a perfect place for having superbeings whose powers derive from drugs.

The Bay Area police forces circa 1966 were fairly fucked up operations.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=65579#Comment_65579 2008-07-08T09:31:11-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930

The Bay Area police forces circa 1966 were fairly fucked up operations. Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't the mid-Sixties pretty fucked up all over in the Bay Area? I'm no expert or ...

The Bay Area police forces circa 1966 were fairly fucked up operations.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't the mid-Sixties pretty fucked up all over in the Bay Area? I'm no expert or anything, but I think all levels of fuckery evolved there, not just the police.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=65580#Comment_65580 2008-07-08T09:50:23-07:00 2013-06-19T18:32:19-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2

Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't the mid-Sixties pretty fucked up all over in the Bay Area? I'm no expert or anything, but I think all levels of fuckery evolved there, not just the ...

Now, correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't the mid-Sixties pretty fucked up all over in the Bay Area? I'm no expert or anything, but I think all levels of fuckery evolved there, not just the police.

Depends on your opinion of, say, The Black Panthers, I guess.

But, yes, it was an interesting time all over.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=2728&Focus=67353#Comment_67353 2008-07-15T00:38:02-07:00 2008-07-15T00:40:13-07:00 Dasai http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1694

I have nothing clever to say, no jokes to make. I'm interested, and have something to look forward to. Thank God, I thought I was going to have to read Secret Invasion.

Thank God, I thought I was going to have to read Secret Invasion.]]>