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    • CommentAuthorjayverni
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2008
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    Had to debate for a minute whether this should go in Mad Science, but being a failed guitar player, music was the first thought. Anwyway, Moog has turned itself into a guitar maker, and a magic one at that. Supposedly, there is no synthesizer involved, just incredible feats of engineering to increase (or kill) sustain, and produce some wild sounds. Video here

    I can't wait to see what some of the masters can do with this and a little studio time. The clips they have make me want more!!!
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2008
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    Apart from the damping function, that seems to be like the Fernandes Sustainer, which itself is a continuation of the EBow.

    Cool stuff, none the less, but there's history here too. As usual. :)
    • CommentAuthorjayverni
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2008
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    Pretty incredible stuff. I should have known better than think I could keep ahead of anyone in this group. Every time I think I have that little bit no one else has, I get shown how little I actually know. But then again, that's why I love it here and keep coming back. Thank you for those links, BTW. Now I have even more stuff to drool over that I can't yet afford...
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    @ Taphead

    Yeah, sounds like a built in Ebow, which is a fairly dang good idea.
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2008
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    I saw a Gibson SG the other day that tuned itself electronically. Not sure how i feel about that quite yet.
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    Nice nice nice. This is the first time I've seen another guitar and felt like my Ibanez is genuinely inadequate in some way *worry*.... I want one now XD
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    Moog thank you for making my last album obsolete! This looks very cool and I want one even if my current guitar rig kind of does the same thing.
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      CommentAuthorhowyadoin
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2008
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    I can't wait to see what some of the masters can do with this and a little studio time.

    Nigel Tufnel, are you listening?
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      CommentAuthorhmobius
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2008
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    Erk. And their first model is £4000!!!
    Maybe I'll pass.

    Would love to see what Bill Frisell, Robert Fripp and Adrian Utley would do with it though.
    Fripps onstage kit would be halved I'm guessing.
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    I saw a Gibson SG the other day that tuned itself electronically. Not sure how i feel about that quite yet.


    eww, i been playing for about 14 years (since i was 10). i think tuning your guitar is sort of an integral part of building your physical relationship with it, that sounds strange but i always felt guitars were alive in a way. maybe in the way that unlike a lot of instruments they really do function as an extension of yourself. playing a guitar is an intimate thing, it always stays close to your body, you cradle it, caress it, and beat the shit out of it. i've never owned a guitar that i didn't have some kind of emotional connection with. something about a self tuning guitar, just bugs me. it's organic y'know? you take care of it, you tune it, clean it, play it, and it gives that back to you.

    and besides, a little bit of imperfection isn't a bad thing.
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2008 edited
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    @nick3pointone4 - Agreed!

    Personally, I'm a slow learner. It took me forever to figure out how to tune by ear while everybody took maybe 3 seconds to tighten up. But once I figured it out, I was definitely a better player for it. I suppose if you're in one of those dynamic bands that's constantly changing tuning during a live set, it might be a good idea, but it's gotta wreak havoc on the suspension over time.

    Photo References:





    http://www.technologyreview.com/Infotech/19462/page1/
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      CommentAuthoraRgus
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2008
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    I'm guessing the frets complete a circuit with the bridge when the string is depressed? Being able to keep that drone going opens up a lot of possibilities. $6.4k list tho. Ugh

    I wonder if you could use the dampening function like a noise gate to prevent feedback under heavy distortion.

    .
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    @egon i used to play in a band that used 3 different tunings, so me and the other guitar player just went out and bought a couple of $120 squires, problem solved :-)
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2008
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    I'll bet they probably sound better too. Too much gadgetry can make an axe sound like shit.
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    heh, i'm a man of simple tastes when it comes to a guitar. i don't even use the whammy bar on my ibanez.

    my ideal guitar though, is something pretty close to my jackson.

    it'd be something with reverse headstock, ergonomic super-strat body, neck-thru body, string-thru bridge, ebony fretboard, and any deep bassy wood for the neck and body. also pi symbols in abalone on the neck inlays. an emg h-4 in the bridge, and a seymour duncan jazz pickup i the neck, and also, volume knobs and tone nobs for each pickup is crucial. and as for color, i think a black sunburst would look really cool.
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2008
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    All I want is a glossed out cherry red (non-automated) Gibson SG with two double-humbuckers. (Used to have a limited ed. SGZ)

    It just has that undeniable rock sound that you find with AC/\/DC and Bad Religion. Doesn't get any simpler than that. I'm currently borrowing aRgus' Dean Vendetta which gets the job done, but damn do I miss cradling an SG.
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    i like the crispness of the pickups on the sg when you run it dirty, low gain but still distorted, lower lows, and mid range mids/highs. but for some reason the body makes me want to bash it into my own face whenever i play one. can't ever get used to it.
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      CommentAuthorTrotsky
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2008
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    Awesome.
    Still, this doesn't surprise me at all,
    considering that MOOG was right on the forefront of the KEYTAR Market.
    moog liberation
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      CommentAuthortim12s
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2008
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    @ hmobius

    Fripp would no doubt write a lengthy dissertation about it that only he would understand.

    And Billy Corgan would masturbate to it furiously.
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    i never understood the keytar, wouldn't a keyboard be superior since you can use 2 hands!?!?