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  1.  (283.1)
    So, I was looking at the DC list of forth coming trades found here:

    http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=139505

    And one thought occurred to me, there are a number of titles getting quick collection that are struggling in sales in a traditional sense.

    A number of these books are the somewhat more atypical super hero books to come out of the various "events." Examples: Checkmate (which is a personal favorite), Shadowpact and Infinity Inc. Now looking at sales, none of these books are exactly showing great numbers, but they seem to persist in being collected.

    So is DC trading all those books in hopes to boost sales or viewing the monthlies as a loss and moving to the notion that these books will have longer life collected. I do no know enough of the inner workings to judge myself...
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2007
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    The fastest growing segment of the comic book industry is graphic novels. Thanks to stores like Barnes and Borders GN sales are increasing by double digits. This has not proven to increase the sales of monthly titles, but has proven to be a great source of revenue overall. There are many books that I don't collect the monthlies, but I do purchased the collected works.
    • CommentAuthorElohim
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2007
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    I think it's been happening for a while - 100 Bullets was a total loser in singles, but massively made up for it in trades.

    Most of the less mainstream titles that survive the 24 issues boundary do that. Otherwise, they end up like the Deadenders.

    A dead-end title. heh. Sorry for the pun. I liked the Deadenders, although I only discovered them after the run had finished...
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    Well, yes, we all know trades are making money but there has been no evidence that DC as a publisher was letting say struggling super hero titles exist for trades. Even the common wisdom that DC assumes vertigo will make money collected has been undermined to a degree by a few recent cancellations (see American Virgin). Rather it seems vertigo has a relaxed cancellation point not a true loss lead mentality.

    But these books are arguably under cancellation points or near them for super heroes..

    So, I don't mean evidence DC knows trades are valuable - we all know that. I mean anyone who has an idea DC has fully accepted that some corporate monthlies are just never going to do good at all and instead will publish them for the reason of having the trades. Its a subtle difference I think but an important one. Its not "if the monthly struggles we will make it up in trade" its "the monthly would have been canceled on the numbers as little as 12 months ago, but we will instead collect it because we rather have the trade then cancel."
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    Man, how long did it take them to bring the first arc of <em>Midnighter</em> into TPB? DC really have a hate-on for the WildStorm universe it seems.
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    For a lot of readers, the "collected editions" are the only editions DC/Vertigo/Wildstorm publishes. With the creative costs covered by the pamphlets, it makes sense for DC/Vertigo/Wildstorm to publish the "collected editions." Probably a carryover from the manga boom that showed people that it was okay to buy comics in big chunks at a time, that they didn't have to buy their comic stories in installments.
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      CommentAuthorUnsub
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2007
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    If TPB keeps comics a viable art form then I am all for it. I still prefer my fix in pamphlet form but being able to get stuff I missed out in TPB is very nice.
    The first TPB I bought was Watchmen and I love it although it would have been more powerful in instalments. I also would have not skipped through the articles as much. My brain will not accept manga's backward order though. I get mixed up every page.

    It is also possible that the original pamphlet books could end up being worth more because of the TPB's rather than less as most people imagine.
    The amount of actual first run comics is very very small so eventually they could be worth a lot of cash. First issues will always be valuable and depending where comics as an art form goes in the next 20 years they could be the last beautiful gasp of the print medium.
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    First issues will always be valuable...



    ...Suuuuuuuuuure they will.

    soooooo valuable!
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      CommentAuthorC.c.
    • CommentTimeDec 14th 2007
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    I actually buy almost exclusively TPBs, so count me as part of that newer segment of buyers. I still buy from a LCS, but trades are where it's at for me. Nice big chunks, read the story all the way through -- the only thing I miss sometimes are the covers.

    Also, in terms of getting new people into comics, it's easier to hand them a TPB than it is to give them six or twelve individual issues. And collected editions fit real nicely on my bookshelf.
    • CommentAuthorElohim
    • CommentTimeDec 14th 2007
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    I do the same - trades and big bags of second-hand or ridiculously old singles from my local comic store.

    Modern singles are a touch expensive for me...
    Look at the most recent Hellblazer trade: "The Gift", retail c. £12.99
    Nine issues, retail c. £2.20 each, i.e. £19.80

    See that difference of £6.80? That's about three meals for me.
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    You know, half an hour on Google would have cured anyone of the need to start this thread.