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      CommentAuthorJeff Owens
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2008 edited
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    @Tacopunch

    I need to be investing in one of those.

    @LBA

    his thread has, indeed, been wonderful. It's really neat to hear how everyone makes their beauty.
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    @rickiep00h, his chain says it goes into effects and things before the laptop, these would boost the signal enough for it to be picked up by the laptop's inputs. then after the laptop it's boosted again by the DI's as the laptop has a low output, innit.

    @Jehrot, thanks for a heads up on that Crystal Synth VST, it's brilliant! also thank to you and Kernowdrunk for the Kjaerhus Classic vst's, they are indeed lovely and sound great!
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      CommentAuthorJeff Owens
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008 edited
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    @offtandiscord, I don't think that answers how guitar gets to his computer. What kind of inputs? Is there an external device? Is there maybe a 1/4 -> USB or Firewire cable or is tacopunch running with an external interface? With my computer, I wouldn't have any way to get a guitar in without an interface.
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    aaaah yes, true.

    what do you use then? i was always concerned that there might be latency issues with USB inputs, is that the case at all? or would it depend on the specs of your computator?
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      CommentAuthorliquidcow
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
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    I use a MacBook Pro with Pro Tools 7.4, I have an Mbox 2, although at the moment I can use the DigiRack 002s they have at uni (not for much longer though). With Pro Tools I also use Reason as a plug-in, mostly so as I can use the DKFH refill through its samplers, but I occasionally use some of the other synths or samplers in it as well.

    For recording guitar I do have a Pod 2.0 which I have used in the past a lot, but I'm also at the moment trying to use Amplitube 2 and Amplitube Metal, which seem to be potentially better, not least because you basically record the signal clean and you can change the amp settings later without having to re-record. I would ideally mic up my amp but I don't have any of the necessary space/equipment to do that effectively.

    I would like to get hold of Logic at some point. I would also like to get a decent microphone for recording vocals etc. Money is an issue though.
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      CommentAuthoraike
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
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    Digidesign just released Eleven, their new guitar amp simulator. Sounds quite good, plus it goes to eleven.

    I always used amp farm on my pro tools, but I think it requires the HD cards. The benefit was that it used the identical algorithms and process as the line 6 stuff, so you could get nice sound without any delay.

    Guitar Rig is sweet, and pretty much what I use now that I dont have pro tools anymore.
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      CommentAuthorJeff Owens
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
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    @offtandiscord

    I would say a lot of it has to do with your computer. I have a MacBook Pro, a PreSonus Firepod, and a Lacie external HD running on Logic Pro. The Firepod connects via firewire ports. It has 8 XLR/1/4" inputs on the front that I plug mics, guitars, drum machine, etc. into. Even on my fairly nice computer (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2GHz processor and 2GB memory), I will once in a while notice the slightest bit of lag while recording, but not enough to interfere, and it locks back into time during playback, so it's not an issue.
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
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    @Screw Jeff Owens, offtandiscord

    USB usually has latency issues, that's why we went for FireWire at home. The Mboxes are nice for being Digidesign and thus working nice with Protools, but were I actually recording something serious, I'd upgrade to FireWire. Even a super-sweet computer will have latency with USB because of the interface. Sure, you can adjust your settings and stuff some, but it will always be there, and it drives me insane.
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    I am ghetto. I use a USB line in because apple didn't put line in's on iBooks five years ago when I bought mine, or if I'm processing on my PC it comes through the soundblaster audigy w/ a breakout box. I just use a simple $2 adapter to move from the mono out put from my hardware fx down to the 1/8" jack for my pc. Yes there's latency but you learn to play around it. Mind you I'm mostly playing slowly ascending and descending structures. It also helps that I always get rough mixes and individual tracks bounced down to soviet era reel 2 reels my mate owns. 100000ft of tape grime hides a lot of bad stuff.
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeJul 12th 2008
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    Yeah, they still don't put line-in on MacBooks... But I was lucky enough to get one with a FireWire port!

    Of course, I sold that laptop last month...

    I remember the days of using adapters and sex-changers to use Cakewalk for my mixing. Now I have the knowledge to do it correctly if I ever have to do it again.
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      CommentAuthorliquidcow
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2008
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    @ aike - yeh I'd really like to check out Eleven, it sounds like it should be good. I think Amp Farm does need HD, I remember looking at something that only worked on HD and I'm pretty sure that was it...

    @ rickiep00h - are you sure about that? My MacBook Pro has a line-in. Maybe it's just the regular ones that don't have it, although my brother's got one and I swear it's got line-in.
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    @branjo: TapeOp is still free for subscribers. Chock full of recording and sound/studio engineering tips. I learn lots from it. The TapeOp forums are also very active and valuable.

    http://www.tapeop.com/

    http://messageboard.tapeop.com/
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2008
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    @liquidcow

    ...pretty sure the regular MacBooks don't. I may be wrong. If I am, eh, no big deal to me. I know that my iBook didn't, and since the MacBook is based on that, I'm just sort of assuming that those don't either. In any case, it's still vastly inferior to having a dedicated I/O interface, in my opinion. I like having mic preamps and taking the processing load off of the main CPU. Frees up space for plugins and instruments...
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    Well I'm pretty much convinced now I need to start using Ableton. It looks like I can record with it and use it live too. Suh-weet!
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      CommentAuthorJeff Owens
    • CommentTimeJul 13th 2008
     (2918.55)
    @rickiep00h

    My MacBook Pro definitely doesn't have them and I would much rather be using my Firepod (or something better) anyway.

    @Val

    I'm in the same boat as you. I've had my eye on my wallet for about three or four months, waiting for the day I can drop the $500 on it.