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If anyone has had any trouble reading the Black Dossier, then may I suggest reading this link from Jess Nevins.
This book is so rich and steeped in literary history that I'm going to be reading it again after the annotations. And that's after most of the annotations going over my head. Anyone else having these issues or enjoying the book as much as I did? -
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CommentAuthorwarrenellis
- CommentTimeDec 14th 2007
Haven't even found a copy for sale, mate.
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Just ordered mine from Amazon, and apparently they are shipping it to Canada. Of course, I am waiting for the evil death email to tell me it can't reach me.
Not to get too familiar, but do you want me to send you a copy? -
Wow, I'm sure missing a lot so far. Thanks for the link!
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- CommentAuthorCaptain Legion
- CommentTimeDec 14th 2007
Supporting your local comics shops has never been so annoying. The Black Dossier: Not available in Canada until the copyright expires, even though they call him "Jimmy." Would have to pay money to a dead man otherwise.
Had to steal a copy from the States. My local refuses to even order from the states, even though the exchange rate is high. He'd have to jack up the price to make it worth his while. And the price jack isn't what we need.
That said: Has anyone else noticed that the Canadians find every excuse available to shout: I AM FROM THE CANADA. NOT THE UNITY STATES. DEFINITELY NO SOUTH UP HERE. NO NO. -
I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.I did not even know it was not available up here. No wonder it has not shown up in my file. My local pusher knows my taste and is one of the main reasons I support my local shop.
We all think we are infinitly more refined and superior to the Yanks (although far to polite to point it out). I actually like a lot of things about the US other than the people in charge. -
I'm of the opinion that that League vol. 2 was better than vol.1, despite consensual disappointment from the fans (am I alone?). That said, I'm about half way through Black Dossier and if anything, it's comics' greatest literary achievement and potentially Alan's most dense work. Where it'll stand alongside the previous volumes, I'm not quite sure yet. Regardless, it's a blast and I will surely continue to enjoy it until there are no pages left to turn.
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- CommentAuthorInsect King
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2007
I'm of the opinion that that League vol. 2 was better than vol.1, despite consensual disappointment from the fans (am I alone?).
No, you're not alone. I thought League vol 2 was much more enjoyable than vol 1. Try Barnes & Noble for Black Dossier goodness. They are also known to pack better.
Although I am surprised DC didn't pack one in for Mr Ellis in their infamous Big Box o Shite they send around the world every month.
For further interest, here's an article about Black Dossier and copyright law.
Cheers,
Chris. -
- CommentAuthorstevencudahy
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2007
They had rather a lot of copies in FP Glasgow today, so I'm not sure how they've worked that. Will check back when I've digested it.
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I walked into my LCS two weeks ago. "We've got one copy of Black Dossier left," the rather wonderful manager told me. Ten minutes later, they had none.
They didn't know how they got them (head office just sent a bundle) but I wasn't complaining...
I'm sure I haven't gotten the most out of it that I could, but I never expect that from a select bunch of authors and artists, and Alan Moore comes pretty high in the list. It's a massively complex read, and not one you could expect to finish in one sitting; that said, a few days' worth of effort saw me through, and utterly blown away by the execution.
I won't comment much more 'til I've read through a few more times. -
I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.Copywrite nazis can kiss my fat white butt.
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...said with the assurance of a man who's never created anything that might be copyrighted.
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Insect King, it is indeed good to hear I'm not alone. I've had too many tiresome debates with my pals on the integrity of the work (vol. 2). Happy reading, good sir.
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Can't wait to hear what you think about it Mr. Ellis when you have finally found and read this book.
I don't know what it is about you Islanders in the Atlantic, but I seem to be overflowing with British/Scottish/Irish/Whateverish works in my collection. -
I thought The Black Dossier was kind of lacking alot. The plot concerning the theft of the Dossier was minimal despite all the background goodies. The elements of the Dossier itself was really thin, not much action or story, aside from the wonderful "Life of Orlando", it was filled with speculation and gave us very little information. The Haddo text was interesting but seemed to be a sort of prologue or set-up to what Moore will do with the first installment of Century. The concept was truly fantastic but the execution left much to be desired.
What I was hoping for was an actual account of certain events before Vol. I took place, as well as accounts of the German leagues activities, not just a few words on what they might've been doing, a bit of history on how Campion was recruited, and more of a spy-thriller feel to the story. The prospectus and the map of Nemo's ship I found dull. On the plus side I loved the watercolors and suggest there should be much much more of that. The addition of Zenith to the French league was a nice surprize. I just wanted a little more story after waiting for so long, I realize it's a bit complicated considering the source material and the copyright issues but hopefully Century will make up for it.
By the way can anyone tell me why all the copies carry a 2008 copyright? cause I'm about to print a massive number of online versions of it considering that the copyright is listed as 2008 and not 2007 when it was published. I don't want this to turn into a copyright discussion though so let's not muffle the subject, i'm just curious. -
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CommentAuthorSpiraltwist
- CommentTimeDec 31st 2007
@46&2By the way can anyone tell me why all the copies carry a 2008 copyright?
Maybe they weren't exactly sure when it was going to hit the stands. Diamond has had books in stock before and some how manage not to ship them in a timely manner. -
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I went to my local borders and found an unsealed copy. I quickly thumbed through it and was highly disappointed. For all the hype around this book I expected, at the least, a book that could be considered slightly above average. I would rank it as extremely below average, for a book with a $30.00 price tag. Most graphic novels of the same density sell for somewhere between $20.00 and $25.00.
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- CommentAuthorboyanachronism
- CommentTimeJan 1st 2008
Ive ordered it from amazon.com and its cost £14.99 including shipping. Thats less than i pay for some tpb`s in shops in britain.
So whatever its like, it was worth getting for my Moore Collection -
- CommentAuthorTechnocratJT
- CommentTimeJan 1st 2008 edited
Short copyright answer: the indentia date, while useful if it becomes an issue, is not a legal requirement for copyright (for about 20 years now). It often reflects national registration and not publication. -
I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.Just got my copy from Amazon and the hardback with the beautiful victorian style cover, 3D glasses in the jacket and even a attached ribbon place holder gave me a bookgasm.
I am only about half way through the second chapter. but so far I think it is worth it just for the packaging. It seems like the type of book that is better in small doses rather than trying to read through the whole thing at once. The fake Bond girl name was fantastic.
Spoiler alert (just a small one).
In the first chapter Allan was joking about the fake bond girl name Mina had given herself.
Mina- " I mean Oodles O'Quim ,honestly"
Allan -"Oh I don't know I thought it rather funny"
Mina- "Ha Ha Ha ! ,yes I suppose it was really. And you know he didn't bat an eyelid?
He must meet women with names like that all the time"
I love dialogue like that. I find some of the print parts of LoEG a hard go so I tend to take them in small parts. It is much better for people with a interest in Victorian fiction and
history. I thought because of the Black Dossier taking place in the 1950's it might be more mainstream but so far it does not seem so.
As for copywrite I would highly recommend downloading "Steal this movie 2" from piratebay. It does a much better job of explaining my point of view far better than I could.