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      CommentAuthorWillow Bl00
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008 edited
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    I'm holding a Transhumanist discussion group on Aug 8th at 7p in Seattle. Topic will be Healthy Information Diets and Self-Filtering. If interested in attending (or just in sharing neat topical articles/links/etc) please do let me know.

    Figured the WC-ers might be interested. Of course you don't need to be a Transhumanist to attend. What the hell does it mean to be a Transhumanist anyway? Titles are silly but necessary.


    (let me know if this is inappropriate to post to WC, this category, etc)
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    I'm going to move it out of the Zoo and into Mad Science, just for the hell of it.
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    Works for me!
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    I'm curious, what is "Self-Filtering". I did a quick google search and I couldn't find anything that seemed to fit with the other topics.

    Thanks!
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    I'm having to look up what this is but i'm interested in going.
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    I'm interested, need more info.
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    August 8th at 7p at First Hill Bar and Grill (901 Madison).

    Self-Filtering is a term in my social group for deciding what to seek out (ie, what you want to learn about), avoid, etc. Also used in reference to Social Filters... etiquette, but more general (ie, not talking about your festering penis wound in a restaurant with new friends). We'll be talking about the first.

    The idea is that we have a vasty amount of information at our fingertips now. How do we choose what to look at? What is legitimate? How do we change our minds about that? Also, if you could plug directly in (insert vague Matrix reference here for kicks), how are you determining what is true and what isn't? How we absorb information is essential to how we process and incorporate said information into our lives.

    And the like.
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      CommentAuthoraike
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
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    Meh, too far away, but sounds very interesting... right up my alley. Is this going to be something regular? Not that I will likely be able to get to Seattle in the near future, but still. Also if anything comes out of it, keep us (me) posted, please.

    in regards to

    Also, if you could plug directly in (insert vague Matrix reference here for kicks), how are you determining what is true and what isn't? How we absorb information is essential to how we process and incorporate said information into our lives.


    the interesting thing about plugging in, in my opinion, is that it allows you to circumvent the existing senses and create new ones. We naturally assume you would be able to augment vision or touch or whatnot (super vision or chemical analysis on touch), but a direct interface would also allow for virtually (haha) any input to be used as sensory information. (the brain is phenomenally adept at that kind of learning) For example, you could 'see' or 'feel' data fields, not as a spreadsheet of numbers, but as an entirely new sense. Now, given that, you are constructing entirely new dimensions of perception. In this example you wold no longer be absorbing data, but the systemic patterns at a native level... without any way to describe or communicate what you have experienced to anyone without that sense. (try describing color to a person who has always been blind)

    gotta love it.
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      CommentAuthorAriana
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
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    The idea is that we have a vasty amount of information at our fingertips now. How do we choose what to look at? What is legitimate? How do we change our minds about that? Also, if you could plug directly in (insert vague Matrix reference here for kicks), how are you determining what is true and what isn't? How we absorb information is essential to how we process and incorporate said information into our lives.
    This echos, just a bit, something Warren was talking about a few weeks ago: "One of the few sane responses to this explosion of production was to assume the role of curator." 'Course, he was talking post-curation, now that Internet-Filtering systems are pretty well functional. But I suppose "self-filtering" could just as easily be called "curation of your own brain."
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    Yes, it could. (insert lengthy half-drunk ramble about the rise of the live desktop app and the tuning of channels)
    • CommentAuthormik3cap
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
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    Will the discussion group be recorded in any way? Is there a website or link associated with it?
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    Will the discussion group be recorded in any way? Is there a website or link associated with it?

    I think it's early days.

    Please, people: let's not question Willow to death right off the bat.

    Willow: you've got carte blanche to use WC for any purpose related to this, you know that.
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    Another question, as i've never been there.
    Would i be getting carded?
    I cannot legally imbibe alcohol, some establishments frown at my presence.
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      CommentAuthorAriana
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008 edited
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    (insert lengthy half-drunk ramble about the rise of the live desktop app and the tuning of channels)
    (insert half-baked response about social networks and satellite relationships as R&D partnerships programs outside of the wiki paradigm)

    I mean, if you wanna toss out vague what's-in-my-head natter to confuse the folks at home...
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    (insert half-baked response about social networks and satellite relationships as R&D partnerships programs outside of the wiki paradigm)

    I knew you were trouble the first time I saw you, you know that?

    Can't do this in this thread. We'll be here all day and distract from this thread's Higher Purpose. (Which appears to be: can k.dissident get trashed onsite?
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      CommentAuthoredkaye
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008 edited
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    I might be able to attend. I am just over the water in Victoria B.C. but I may be over in Seattle in the next couple of weeks depending on scheduling. I'll let you know if I can make it, otherwise, have a good time. It sounds like a it could be a really interesting discussion group.
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    aike: This will be an ongoing thing. Depending on turn out it will either be monthly or semimonthly (twice a month). So far it seems I have a pretty solid group. Also, I like your description of new ways to imbibe information. It seems to me we're best at pattern recognition, and using it to learn new things in new ways is terribly exciting.

    Ariana: Also a fantastic description. Tagging is such a neat way of keeping track of information (I assume everyone's seen the video on tagging versus filing - done by the same prof that did the web 2.0 video). The more we keep track of things the more we can reference, build upon, etc. Collective consciousness - while at first it seems like Google might be making us dumber, I think it's actually making us collectively more intelligent. A whole 'nother discussion. (going to go look up the etomology of "another" now so I know how to use that)

    mik3cap: We'll be taking notes, but as of yet I don't have a recorder. Let me look into it. I hate to admit I'm better at the social/theory side than the actualities of tech. Working on this though. I'll get back to you. The discussion group I ran in Bloomington had a website, I'll ask Charles if we can resurrect it.

    Warren: thank you.

    k.dissident: No, it's an all ages place. People under 21 have important ideas and things to say, so excluding people based on an arbitrary factor like that would be against a lot of things that I believe in. Hope to see you there.


    (insert caffienated response about constructing identity online and flow charts)
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    Consider this event marked on my calendar.
    I'll do what i can to bring others.
    Perhaps my mother.
    • CommentAuthormik3cap
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
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    Willow: Awesome, many thanks! Can't wait to grok the notes.

    Also, if you have access to a recent gen iPod, I have a leftover recorder attachment that directly creates digital recordings with its own mic. It's pretty sweet, I'd be happy to ship it to you (it's a $10 accessory and I recently sold my iPod to fund an iPhone purchase, so I have no need for it).
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    Hell yeah! This sounds great. You've certainly got a prospective participant here.