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This is a problem:
http://csstoreonline.stores.yahoo.net/92hc.html
Why do we insist on innovating new ways to put ourselves at risk. Wanna hijack a plane? Buy the Honey Comb. It light weight, innocuous to look at and deadly! Best of all it passes through a metal detector unnoticed.
We spend billions of dollars to fight terror, disrupt their financial and training resources on US soil and then we make this??
Well, now I need to buy one...just so I can defend myself from all the other crazy people who think they need a hair brush they can stab someone to death with on a plane! -
I like how the promo photo has that single red rose, as if an assasin has left his 'calling card'.
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Id be suspicious if i saw a male with one of those...
wouldn't you? -
You know you can still bring knitting needles on airplanes, too, right?
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My mom mentioned that!
They confiscated her nail clippers because it had a 3/4 inch long nail file, but they still allowed her to bring her 17 inch alluminum alloy knitting needles on board! -
It's not as if screening for sharp things was ever a workable proposition in the first place. There have always been a million ways to get around it. Ceramic or obsidian knives don't show up on metal detectors. And even with metal weapons, it can't be that hard to pack a weapon in such a way that it's hard to see in the x-ray machine. Or figure out how to make a weapon using things you can buy once you're past security. (Smashed duty-free whiskey bottle, anyone?)
You're never going to be able to keep anything that can be used as a weapon off a plane. It's just not possible. Not without strip-searching every passenger. People like to see some kind of security in action, but they wouldn't be willing to face the immense cost and inconvenience that it would take to make this kind of security measure actually work. So what we get is a bit of Security Theatre that's mainly just for making passengers feel good and for letting the airport look like they're Doing Something.
Bruce Schneier contends that there are only three things that have actually made air travel safer since 9/11, and I'm inclined to agree:
1. Reinforced cockpit doors.
2. Armed sky marshals on random planes.
3. Passengers realizing that they have to fight back in the event of a hijacking. -
3. Passengers realizing that they have to fight back in the event of a hijacking.
Well with my new stabbing comb I'll be ready to pitch in ; ) -
Just like what Schneier said in a different post: We can't keep weapons out of prisons; we can't possibly expect to keep them out of airports.
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as far as #3 goes, flight 93 was shot down by F-16s scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base, forget the gung-ho bullshit pr story
air travel is safer because the FAA has been dutifully inspecting airworthiness stations making sure the mechanics who service the planes know what they're doing, not because the TSA is confiscating liquids. -
@ Wes, your probably right but i don't want to start a shitstorm on here from those thay buy that Popular Mechanics whitewash paid for song and dance...that plane was vaporized for a reason.
the commission official report holds up about as well as the Warren commission leaving more questions like what the fuck? than answers or solutions -
fair enough randy, let's just assume I stepped away from the issue :)
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RE: Flight 93 being shot down - your evidence for this is, what exactly?
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Oh don't turn this into some fucking tinfoil hat conspiracy thread.
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Interesting side-note: according to some studies done at MIT, tinfoil hats actually amplifies military frequencies. So, you know, unless you plan on wearing a massive Faraday cage on your head, you're pretty much out of luck from stoping the terrible GOVERNMENT-APPROVED MIND CONTROL RAYS. ;)
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Id be suspicious if i saw a male with one of those...
wouldn't you?
I'd get away with it:
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Tinfoil jackets are where it's at these days for anti-government sorts. Seriously. As they're an effective defence against a Taser.
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My father gave me one of these ages ago; can't remember if it was late 80s or early 90s. (He's fond of gifting weaponry.) I've never tried to take it in my carry-on, though. Didn't seem... wise.
I like the spike (I'm fond of receiving weaponry), but never have much in the way of hair, so it's of little practical use to me. ;) -
And here I thought this was going to be how to use cereal to hijack planes. You down like dowsing the passengers in cold refreshing milk and hoping most of them are lactose intolerant or something.
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And here I thought this was going to be how to use cereal to hijack planes.
Oh, man, am I glad it wasn't just me.
It's not small. No, no, no. -
I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.I prefer a nice metal or reinforced nylon pen for defending myself in areas where there are metal detectors.
I am also fond of a newspaper billy club. Take a regular newspaper ,roll it up lengthwise and fold it in half.
The knuckle produced at the fold should be as hard as oak. The Philippines style of stick fighting works really well with this.
I am rather fond of gifting weaponry myself. The police always say to obey your attacker but the experts at rape prevention say to fight back with everything you have if you want to live. Personally I don't see anything wrong with that brush/knife at all. It is this stupid compulsion to turn our personal safety over to a government we don't trust to competently deliver our mail much less our personal safety that is the real problem.
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