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      CommentAuthorILLbean
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2008
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    <blockquote>Never fails to amuse - purple-eyed telepaths? sure! a steam-powered gun that's clearly firing its projectiles incorrectly? geddouddahear!</blockquote>

    :)

    I concur, but…

    The readers are holding FA accountable to the reality that it creates. While purple eyed telepaths are totally reasonable in the context of the story, physics has apparently not gone completely out the door. Unless, as noted earlier, the gun is controlled by one of the FA kids, the physics of the big ass awesome gun are completely fubar. (But it obviously can't be physically controlled since Warren has clearly explained the operation of the weapon through the "scaled pig" post (something that made me LOL in the office and receive even more odd looks than the day I showed up without any pants.))

    Now, there will be no conclusion to the pointing out of this “inaccuracy of physics” unless it is changed for the final print version. And even then the online incident will go down in history as a bit of trivia in the Warren Ellis cannon. Perhaps if FA is ever made into a movie for the masses, the error of physics can be maintained and then it can be included in the IMDb “goofs” or “trivia” category. Point is, these kind of errors happen all the time, the only reason we are so hard on Warren et al is that we expect PERFECTION from genius, (Yes, Warren and crew that was another compliment from a fawning fan) and we are given this great comic in small installments so we have a whole week to pour over the minutia.

    More important to the plot and truly worthy of discussion is the aforementioned sixth boat that seems to have broken away from the assaulting group between panel 1 and panel 4, and straycat264’s comments about Kay…

    Very interesting…
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    And even then the online incident will go down in history as a bit of trivia in the Warren Ellis cannon.

    It really won't, you know.

    Unless the entry reads "nerds obsess over unclearly-seen 'steam-powered' gun, ignore absurd steam-powered helicopter zooming overhead."

    With a possible suffix of "amuses writer, irritates the shit out of artist"

    and maybe "artist cuts head off fanboy on long coach ride, defiles it, eats bits"
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    > and maybe "artist cuts head off fanboy on long coach ride, defiles it, eats bits"

    Depending on the manner of defilement, might it be more sanitary to eat first, defile second?

    Just a thought...
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    Unless the entry reads "nerds obsess over unclearly-seen 'steam-powered' gun, ignore absurd steam-powered helicopter zooming overhead."

    Damn. I'm hearbroken. I was so looking forward to a dear sugar daddy giving me a working KK-copter for Christmas.
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      CommentAuthorMethiel
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2008
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    Hahahahahahaha very true, I love how murderous Sirkka looks when refferring to those that hurt her Jack!
    Mental note* look for purple wig to cos-play Sirkka as well as Arkady*
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    Mental note* look for purple wig to cos-play Sirkka as well as Arkady*

    We will, of course, need photos of this.
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    @straycat264--Holy crap. You may just be onto something there. I guess we'll see, huh? Interesting food for thought in the meantime, though. Thanks for that.
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    Arkady gets protected all special like. That's more interesting to me than guns. Not that a shoot out isn't fun and all but I feel so dirty afterwards.

    She's so powerful, but so vulnerable. Look forward to finding out why. The ongoing ethic they seem to have about not using mental power to fight is another intriguing bit I look forward to seeing unfold. Well, they use them to communicate how to fight but not the way Arkady did with Luke that disabled him. That seems forbidden.

    Thanks for another free bit of fun reading.
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2008
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    @Booalready

    Are they protecting Arkady from the intruders, or the intruders from Arkady? I think a mass version of her present to Luke would be pretty frightening for everyone involved.
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    Arkady just seems like a really sweet happy free spoirit type, she's probably far too nice to want to fight people is what i'm guessing... she's got great powers of teleporting things and herself, maybe she's going to control the direction of the improbable flying darts ;)
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      CommentAuthorCyman
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2008
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    This is my impression of FREAKANGELS: "Hey, check it out, I'm FUCKING AWESOME. Did you see the giant gun reveal on page 3? Yeah, it shoots fuckin' crazy darts. Did I mention I'm awesome and make Cyman's day?"
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      CommentAuthorLucifal
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2008 edited
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    I'm a huge fan of the underwear-clad folks firing up the big fuck-off gun. Nice touch. Nothing like killing invaders wearing a bra and yoga pants.
    Ok, so the gatling gun was good but I have to agree with the above quote.
    I was at a writing group yesterday evening when one of the other members argued that my future wouldn't happen like I'd written. Hey, whose future is it?
    You have amazing patience, Mr Ellis.
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    BTW - anyone else curious about who the last two angels are, why we haven't seen any mention of them to date, and when we get to meet them?

    There are two unaccounted for, yes? I can still count to twelve, surely?
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    There are indeed two unaccounted for at this time.
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    Unless the entry reads "nerds obsess over unclearly-seen 'steam-powered' gun, ignore absurd steam-powered helicopter zooming overhead." With a possible suffix of "amuses writer, irritates the shit out of artist" and maybe "artist cuts head off fanboy on long coach ride, defiles it, eats bits"

    Bwahaha! I'm working gradually on omniscience (my consciousness has expanded as far as the door to my office so far!), so in a few years I won't even need to ride a bus. I can have you all while you sleep, and then I'll be able to draw a giant steam gun that shoots flowers backwards in time and cures all cancer to the left, and everyone will be too afraid to comment.
    • CommentAuthorj-prime
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2008
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    Unless the entry reads "nerds obsess over unclearly-seen 'steam-powered' gun, ignore absurd steam-powered helicopter zooming overhead."

    Are you saying that you believe steam powered whirlygigs are a physical impossibility? They're not! In fact, there are 'steam' engines that exist today which are suitable for small-profile aviation. Both commercially available 'advanced steam designs' like IAV's Steam Cell Turbine and even more esoteric devices like the Sterling engines I've seen first-hand at MIT (carbon-fibre/ceramic, can be picked up by a single adult, run off pretty much anything that'll burn, and have power-to-weight ratios superior to military helicopter engines.) I won't be suprised to see 'steam' power showing up in small-capacity aviation products within the decade.

    The FA gatling gun, otoh, is neat looking but simply not behaving as a projectile-thrower subject to the physical laws of this world. I understand some of the reluctance to give in on the point - the image is so fucking cool and probably took a lot of hard work/love to create. If the gun was a 'magical' or 'psychic-driven' piece of fantasy gear, probably no one would quibble with it behaving in a non-Newtonian fashion - ie, magic gets to act like magic. But afaikt, the gun seems to be intended as a straight-up physical mechanism, however unusual its conception and construction. Therefore it intuitively looks like a mistake to some readers when it doesn't behave like a machine, bound by physical laws.

    ***

    It sucks that the above makes it sound like I don't absolutely love this amazing yarn - I do! FA is one of the things I most look forward to each week - every episode is like a small dystopic steam-powered present exploding on my computer screen.
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      CommentAuthorAlastair
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2008
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    sigh
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    Hopeless.h
    • CommentAuthorJo
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
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    @feliciafm:
    So glad others are as obsessed/enamoured with Riddley Walker as I am.

    @Ellis, Duffield, et al:
    Had read the first few installments, then stopped, and have now caught up. It's quite fun. I like that it seems rough, and that you're forthright about its roughness. I also like the power-play foundations of the story, and though the blood and missiles are entertaining, I'm waiting for the sociological shitstorm when the cover comes off the Angels part in the recent semi-apocalypse. The dynamic has certain thematic matchups to Nick Sagan's trilogy (starts with Idlewild)--small pantheon of New versus all the strange leftovers of Old, and all of them versus something Bigger. I liked them there, and I like them here. I'm along for the ride.
    • CommentAuthorLA_Gomez
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2008
     (3168.100)
    @Warrenellis

    And you thought you were writing a simple online comic. Ha Ha Ha