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    • CommentAuthorimmaterial
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007
    So. What neglected older comics do you think should get their own TPB or hardcover collection? Or even one of those black and white newsprint phonebooks? Marvel and DC have both got some gems kicking around in their morgue that should see the light of day again.

    For instance, I'd like to see Warren's Hellstorm collected, perhaps augmented with notes for what he intended to do if the thing had been allowed to continue, as well as the Druid miniseries and whatever scraps of the never-released Satana series still exist. If Marvel doesn't want to be associated with that material, license it to Vertigo and let them run it. Then maybe they can give him Hellblazer back...

    For that matter, his Doom 2099 stuff would make a nice phonebook, and they could throw in the short stories he did for 2099 Unlimited, as well as the big one-shots he did redefining the 2099 landscape and establishing the Doom takeover. There's a nice stack of weird comics there that at the very least deserve to be pulled together in one place so that new Ellis fans can be made aware of their existence. And with Ellis having become something of a brand name, isn't there a potential source of revenue for the rights holders there?

    Ditko's Charlton Question comics have already been collected in an Archive Edition, but you have to pay $50 and wind up with a bunch of Blue Beetle you didn't want, so it would be nice to see those get their own book, including the Alex Toth Question story. I guess these are of largely historical interest, but even if you're not that big on his art style, Ditko becomes more interesting when you begin to realise how crazy he is. The Question, it turns out, was his dry run for the independent Mr. A strip, inspired by Ayn Rand and as batty and polemical as any Jack Chick tract.

    I'd also like to see great backup strips from the 70s collected. Kaluta drew some beautiful Pellucidar comics in the back of various Tarzan comics.

    Artist-centric collections would be great, too.

    Chaykin did some great Dominic Fortune stuff in different places, some of it (in the Hulk magazine) painted in colour, every bit as beautiful as his American Flagg stuff but in period, allowing him to draw the 40s cars, guns and clothes he loves. He also did some Fafhrd and Gray Mouser, Solomon Kane, Monarch Starstalker, a Nick Fury or two for Marvel Premiere. These need to be pulled together.

    The same goes for Michael Golden's early work for DC -- particularly the raft of Batman stuff he did, which was just fluid, atmospheric and stunning. There'd never been anything like it, and it's all buried in that yellowing newsprint.

    It's been a while since I read it, but I remember liking the first Knights Of Pendragon series from Marvel U.K., too: Arthurian legend ala Arthur Machen, with a hefty dose of M.R. James style English horror and the odd superhero. The environmentalism might have been a bit heavy handed, but better to deal with the environment than not deal with it. (And better to be pretentious than to not try at all, for that matter).

    What would you like to see collected?
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007
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    Mike Baron's entire run on Badger.

    Justice Machine.
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    Chronowar - a manga series published by Dark Horse in the 90s... never collected as far as I know.
    • CommentAuthorimmaterial
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007 edited
    Here's another one. Mark Millar did a black and white book called Saviour (for Trident?). It ran seven or so issues and involved the anti-Christ passing himself off as Superman. I think Jesus returned at the same time and tried to oppose him, but wasn't doing all that well when the book was cancelled. We never got to see how it turned out. But I'll bet Millar knows what was supposed to happen -- it could probably be completed in the space of a single issue or two and released as a graphic novel.
      CommentAuthorJosh T.
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007
    I'm happy we got some of the Denny O'Neil question, i can stop ruining my original issues now :D
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007
    The Hacker Files
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    <em>Flex</em> bloody <em>Mentallo</em>, DC you bastards.
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007 edited

    Aztek - Morrison
    Hitman - Ennis
    Major Bummer - DC
    Flinch - Horror Anthology Vertigo
    *All the old Skywald Horror comics MAGS -id pop a golden bonar if that happenned.
    Dan Dare - Morrison's run.
    Ellis - DOOM 2099
    Eclipse Comics - various horror anthologies that were top notch, Twisted Tales, Alien Worlds, Alien Encounters, some in 3D..with work by Bolland, wrightson, Kaluta, Jones, Corben...and more any publisher could make big bank collecting these short runs that were like a new line of EC comics in the 1980's with all name artists and writers.I wonder who owns the publishing rights?

    I still can't get over the fact that CREEPY and EERIE magazine will be collected and published by DARK HORSE....

    I can't contain myself!
    • CommentAuthorimmaterial
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007 edited
    Paul Gulacy's run on Master Of Kung Fu, which apparently isn't going to happen because of rights difficulties re: Sax Rohmer's literary estate. Pity.

    Speaking of Sax Rohmer, Trina Robbins did a long adaptation of his novel, Dope, that ran in both the black and white and colour incarnations of Eclipse Monthly. I'd love to see that thing collected. Trina's an acquired taste, but I've finally acquired it after years of seeing her stuff in all kinds of different places, including underground comix. Her's is a very stylised, very specific kind of cartooning, nostalgic without actually looking like the stuff it makes you nostalgic for. And she actually had the gumption to point out that a great deal of the undergrounds produced by the peace and love hippies were misogynistic as hell, for which she ultimately wound up taking a lot of heat, despite it being absolutely true.

    Speaking of underground comix, I'd love to see a collection of George Metzger's Moondog and related post-fall-of-insdustrial-civilisation-Mother-Earth-News-hippified-sci-fi-fantasy comix, and a good collection of Tim Boxell's bits and pieces from that era, which were scattered throughout his Commies From Mars and elsewhere. He even drew an adaptation of Philip Jose Farmer's porno-horror-mystery Image Of The Beast. Boxell also went under the name Grisly, and he certainly was: very reminiscent of Bissette and Totleben in its queasiness.
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    Morrison's <em>Dan Dare</em> story is available as part of a Rian Hughes anthology.
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    As good of a job as DC has done with collecting vintage material in recent years, Simon & Kirby's golden age DC work (Sandman, Manhunter, Boy Commandos, Guardian & Newsboy Legion) stands out as something that should be done.
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007
    @ Immaterial..that really sucks about Master of Kung Fu..., dammnit thast one i would love to re-read in its entirety, i had so many of thsoe as a kid and never really tried to piece a collection together in the store.
    • CommentAuthorimmaterial
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007

    Oh, it sucks all right. It's the comics version of this bullshit we're seeing with music rights and dvd releases. I guess it's down to 70's Marvel never in a million years expecting anyone to have an interest in the comics two months after publication, let alone thirty years later, but it seems to me there needs to be some kind of coming together on this subject of renewing rights already granted when republication time rolls around. They recently released the first season of WKRP in Cincinatti to dvd with all but two or three of the original songs replaced with generic library tracks (for those who might not remember it, the show was about a rock radio station, and they played a lot of music in the course of a single episode), on account of which many of the people who had been clamouring for the release of the thing then swore they would never purchase it, probably killing the potential for any further season sets. It's also holding up China Beach and a raft of others. Held hostage, but no one's going to pay that kind of ransom, and everybody loses.
    • CommentAuthorimmaterial
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007
    Oh, yeah. Look at all this Ellis 2099 stuff. What a nice book this would make:

    "Metalscream" in 2099 Unlimited #4, 7 (unfinished) (1994, 1995)
    "Steel Dawn" in 2099 Unlimited #9 (1995)
    Doom 2099 #25-39 (1995-96).
    2099 A.D. Apocalypse (Dec 1995)
    2099 A.D. Genesis (Jan 1996)
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    Paul Gulacy's run on Master Of Kung Fu, which apparently isn't going to happen because of rights difficulties re: Sax Rohmer's literary estate. Pity.

    Good call on that. Gene Day's run as penciler on the book is amazing also.
    • CommentAuthorElohim
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007
    I'd like all the scrappy bits of early Hellblazer to come out quicker, and in more rational bindings than the ones Vertigo seem to have chosen so far...
    • CommentAuthorimmaterial
    • CommentTimeDec 16th 2007
    Yeah, Day's Master of Kung Fu was great -- probably better than Gulacy's. Still, there's something about Gulacy and Moench's work that fascinates even when Gulacy's art is being buried under inks by Adkins or Marcos (and wouldn't I love to see Gulacy come back and re-master that work). They brought that sixties pop-art thing Steranko initiated into the seventies. My understanding is that Marvel had licensed both the Kung Fu tv show and Sax Rohmer's Fu Manchu characters, but instead of releasing separate books they just smashed both ideas together, brought it into the seventies by giving Rohmer's now aged Sir Denis Nayland Smith a bunch of cool young James Bond/Avengers style agents, and made the protagonist Bruce Lee, whose craze was well under way and whose posters could be found on a huge number of bedroom walls (right beside Farrah Fawcett). Your basic zeitgeist typhoon. Gulacy was a movie fan, too, so he used to 'cast' his little movies with recongiseable faces like Our Man Flint himself, James Coburn.
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    @immaterial: We're definitely on the same page with the early Ellis stuff. I actually had all of his 2099 issues bound into a hardcover, and I have a volume that collects the entire Hellstorm run as well. Here are some pics, because I'm a damn geek:

    And I'm also using the same place to bind his Excalibur run, and all of his early work for Marvel through Wolverine. Christ help me.