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  1.  (322.21)
    after watching both of these, i am excited. very excited. comic movies as a whole are almost universally disappointing, but bring on a brutal, sick joker!
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      CommentAuthorUnsub
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    Mark Hammil was devastatingly good Joker. They should have seriously considered him.

    Begins did not impress me that much but I am hopeful for this one.
    • CommentAuthortmofee
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2007
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    David Tennant wants to play The Riddler in the third film. What do you think? Crazy enough to play the part? He'd do a better job than Jim Carrey, but that's not hard....
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      CommentAuthorVespers
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2007
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    He could do it. He's pretty crazy lookin when he puts his mind to it.
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    Since doctor who I think he can do anything. I know, I know, fanboy much, but I ruddy love it and can't wait for the steampunk looking xmas special on the beeb this year.

    But yeah, love thetrailer, and adore Ledger's very creepy voice, especially the way it shifts tone so quickly and easily.
    • CommentAuthorElohim
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2007
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    I think Tennant could be good as the Riddler...

    Then again, I don't ever expect much from the Riddler, so...
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    I'm not hugely impressed by the trailer.

    The preview screening bit (from what I could tell, I missed a lot of the dialogue) with the heist seemed pretty good, not what I expected.

    But then there was all sorts of posing and bike riding and the like which makes me think of the rather poor previous films.

    However, trailers are weird things. But I'll still see what other people think before dropping money on it.
    • CommentAuthortmofee
    • CommentTimeDec 18th 2007
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    He played the crazy pretty well in Harry Potter as Barty Crouch Jr. (or however you spell it). Yeah, he's a good actor and I'm interested to see what he does after he finishes with Who at the end of '09.
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      CommentAuthorJay Kay
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
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    I'm definately looking forward to this. Begins wasn't that great (it didn't suck but it could have been a lot better), but hopefully the people involved have stepped up and I think we're getting that so far.
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      CommentAuthor46&2
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2007
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    I wasn't impressed with the trailer. It seems as though they're going too dark with the joker. If he doesnt have bipolar shifts between macabre humor and psychopathic violence then it's merely a one dimensional take on an the already cliche concept of the ever-grinning villian.
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      CommentAuthorUnsub
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2007
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    I think Darknightjrk nailed the last film. Damned by faint praise.

    Hopefully it will be more character than gimmik driven. The heist looks promising ,the trailer less so.
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    Can't wait.
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    Christopher Nolan is an incredibly talented filmmaker. Amnesia, Insomnia, The Prestige are all excellent movies, especially the latter. Also, the eternal conflict between Batman and Joker fascinates me, especially due to the magnificent graphic novel The Killing Joke, by Alan Moore. So, I'll definitely watch this film.

    More or less at 1:48 into the official trailer (not this one, the official one) there's a fantastic shot of Batman sliding his bike as the Joker simply watches him, holding a machinegun. Here's a link to the trailer I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaIR9dAZRR0

    Also, the publicity around this movie is absurd. There's loads of viral websites. And the posters look very, very good, especially the one with Joker holding a card with his back to us.
  6.  (322.34)
    Andre,

    Ledger was given two comics for reference material on the Joker according to interviews: Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum.
    So you might be in good shape on your expectations.
  7.  (322.35)
    Andre,

    Ledger was given two comics for reference material on the Joker according to interviews: Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum.
    So you might be in good shape on your expectations.


    Oh, yes, I forgot to mention Arkham Asylum as another comic about Batman and Joker I love. I am no fan of Grant Morrison, but Arkham Asylum is a masterpiece.

    As for what you said about expectations... I dunno. My hopes are WAY too high. Excessive hype can sink an excellent movie, if you let the hype go to your head.
    • CommentAuthorsacredchao
    • CommentTimeDec 25th 2007
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    I saw I Am Legend tonight. It was pretty cool. Anyway, that 6 minute trailer really got me excited. I think Ledger as Joker is definitely an interesting choice. Nicholson is sort of an obvious Joker, so this is definitely a different sort of thing. I really hope he can do the macabre humor. His characters have always been very serious, IE Brokeback Mountain, and Monster's Ball. Strangely enough, not to diminish the quality of either of the aforementioned films, but I think this will push him harder as an actor then either of those movies.
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    I saw I Am Legend tonight. It was pretty cool. Anyway, that 6 minute trailer really got me excited. I think Ledger as Joker is definitely an interesting choice. Nicholson is sort of an obvious Joker, so this is definitely a different sort of thing. I really hope he can do the macabre humor. His characters have always been very serious, IE Brokeback Mountain, and Monster's Ball. Strangely enough, not to diminish the quality of either of the aforementioned films, but I think this will push him harder as an actor then either of those movies.


    I read Nicholson was pissed when he found out a new Batman movie with the Joker was in production. Why he was pissed? Nobody invited HIM to do the Joker again.

    Well, of fucking course they didn't, he charged SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS - plus royalties - to play the Joker in the first Batman movie. That's the highest salary an actor ever received. That's the money "Frank Miller's 300" cost. Really. How the fuck did he expect to be called again?

    His Joker was excellent, yes, but it's time for something new.

    I still think Johnny Depp would have been the perfect Joker. He's an extremely gifted actor and his specialty are characters like that. But Heath Ledger is a very good choice. Actually, if the trailer is any indication, his Joker might even be better than Nicholson's.

    Nicholson has a problem: a very strong persona. So, when he's in a movie, you don't look at him and see his character. You look at him and you see HIM. Jack Nicholson. Fortunately, his charisma and his talent are so great that this doesn't bother me.
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    Well, of fucking course they didn't, he charged SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS - plus royalties - to play the Joker in the first Batman movie. That's the highest salary an actor ever received. That's the money "Frank Miller's 300" cost. Really. How the fuck did he expect to be called again?


    Not quite.

    He received a 6 million dollar salary and a percentage of the box office and merchandise which together came to 60 million. The entire budget of the 1989 film is estimated at 35 million dollars. Now 6 million is a good chunk of that, but 60 million upfront would have been very odd indeed, hah.

    That said,

    His Joker was excellent, yes, but it's time for something new.


    I think his Joker was more or less Jack doing his thing. Which happens to be very Joker like but really, he is a character actor, and does not so much inhabit his roles as bring an existing shtick.
    • CommentAuthorsacredchao
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007 edited
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    Character actor he may be, but that does not diminish the quality of his work. I assume you have, but if not, you should see Chinatown. That is probably Nicholson's finest hour.

    Also, as a sidenote, I'm glad Depp didn't play Joker. I'm not sure why, but I just don't think he'd be very interesting in the role.
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    I think he has about 5 good films in a very long career, Chinatown is indeed a classic but I do not credit Nicholson for that.

    Edit: Where he is a lead to be clear.