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    • CommentAuthorcjstevens
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008 edited
    Hey WC.

    So I've recently read Vol 1 and 2 of Criminal by Ed Brubaker. I think it's one of the best contemporary crime comics of recent years. Anyone else a fan?
    • CommentAuthoradrian r
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008
    Criminal is a lovely piece of work: Brubaker and Phillips work together beautifully, as Sleeper proved a few years back. It's quite traditional in its approach and concerns, drawing on well-established noir tropes, and that's fine: over in another corner we've got Ellis and Templesmith doing Fell in an entirely different mode, equally successful in its own way. -- I blogged about that Brubaker the other day, as it happens.
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008
    I totally LOVE Criminal. But criminally, I havent picked up the singles.... My pull list is so huge already that it's groaning under the weight. Plus the softcovers are damn sexy books. I don't usually rate Brubaker that much (he's good but not my cup of tea on say, Cap) but Criminal is damn fine. Sean Philips best work, IMHO.
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008 edited
    love it. love anything non-superhero (well, except batman, to be honest he was SO FUCKING PERFECT for those books) by ed. the man is a well spring of fucked-upedness.
    • CommentAuthorjohnmuth
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008
    Sean Phillips just posted, a couple days ago, on his blog some artwork he did for the back matter of the single issue...Don't know what issue it will be, but it was a drawing of One False Move, the early 90's, noir film starring Billy bob Thornton (also written by him) and Bill Paxton. With some kind of article written by Marc Andreyko

    So, knowing that this sort of stuff is in the single issues and not in the trade, makes me want to run out and grab all the back issues!! Plus, I loves me some Brubaker and Phillips!
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    hands down my favorite book right now. I buy the single issues as well as the trades. hell, I started buying Captain America because of Brubakers work on Criminal and Sleeper.
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008
    Re: One False Move. His painting just gets better and better. Thanks for the link, John.
    • CommentAuthorMickeyKnox
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2008
    My Netflix queue is totally backlogged now with movie recommendations from the back matter of Sleeper and Criminal.
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    Criminal rocks. And you should really buy the floppies more than the collected edition. There are very good extras in them that are lost in TP and HC.
    Also volume 2 of the series have been very good too. Particularly episode 2, about Tracy Lawless father, is nothing short of a masterpiece because of how phillips and brubaker use the fading of his memory, flashes of action and then blackness induced by drugs and alcooholic stupor. It very vivid and really really desperate.

    PS: BTW Brubaker was very good also on catwoman (amazing, I know) and Gotham Central. Sleeper is his masterpiece to date. Right now at marvel he's doing beautiful terrible things to daredevil, and the first run of iron fist with fraction was spectacular, pulpish and wordefully penciled by Aja. On uncanny x-men, on the other hand, he is a bit out of his game, and it shows, especially the plotting, probably forced in places by the editors, is uninspired. Hope he will get better with fraction from 500+, but I read a rumor he is leaving the series very soon.
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2008
    Sleeper was a great comic indeed and I've been pimping it to people ever since...Criminal is one of the best books out there. I love the attention that goes into every issue, from cover to article to layout. Excellent work.
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    I can't wait for the Gotham Central HC to come out. I would hope that they would eventually come out with a Sleeper HC since the trades are out of print.
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    It's a shame about GC that to keep the characters around had make one in the question and the other in the spectre. It's practically the waterloo of non-superes inside the big ones universes.
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    The articles in the Criminal pamphlets aren't anything particularly special. Movie and book reviews, the kind of thing you can find all over the internet, albiet without the nice Sean Phillips art.

    One thing the pamphlets do have going for them is they're ad-free. However, only first 3 pamphlets of "season 2" can really be considered self-contained (and they're still interrleated). The first 10 are basically serials of 2 graphic novels, with a few pieces of fluff to round out the page count. The fluff has nothing to do with the comics stories. All of the comics are reprinted in the paperbacks.
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    Movie and book reviews, the kind of thing you can find all over the internet

    You didn't read them, then.
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    Is "reviews" an inaccurate term? Essays then?
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    I'd also say that Criminal is very cleverly serialized, even when the story go on to the next ish, the single episode is well constructed with a good beginning and ending. It's an aspect of the craft of comics authors that usually gets lost in collected material. But maybe that's particularly true for italian collection, where we often do not have covers to divide the single episodes. Still, reading them monthly, I believe, it's an acquired taste of sort. And then I re-read them collected anyway, if I liked them.

    And the "backmatter" of criminal is more of an essay done by crimenovelist, something you could find in a good magazine, and maybe in someplace over the internet, but not ALL OVER the internet :)
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    brubaker and rucka on GCPD is one of my favorite fiction works EVER. fucking solid.
    • CommentAuthorcjstevens
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2008
    Glad to see this book has quite a following. I think I prefer reading Brubaker to Azarello and Bendis (although they are awesome), I remember something I read called Scene of the Crime which I'm sure was Brubaker.. and was cool.

    I love the way that the second vol of Criminal is an entirely separate story, yet the Undertow is the local watering hole for the Lowlifes. This is such a cool device.

    I tried to get Sleeper single issues from GOSH ages ago but they didn't have issue 1, but this has reminded me that the title is on the BUY ASAP AND READ ASAP list.
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    <blockquote>Glad to see this book has quite a following. I think I prefer reading Brubaker to Azarello and Bendis (although they are awesome), I remember something I read called Scene of the Crime which I'm sure was Brubaker.. and was cool.</blockquote>

    It was a vertigo miniseries where Bru worked for the first time with Philips and Lark. At least that's what I know about it, unfortunately I never read it.

    Yhere are other links, easter eggs like, between criminal 1 & 2: the guy lawless go tomett in jail asking him to spread the rumor about his new identity is the main character of Criminal 1. Also the forger Tracy goes in the beginning of the story is the author of the fucking brilliat Frank Kafka strip seen in Criminal 1. He will then be the main character of the second arc (well the first real arc considering vol. 2 #1-3 were standalone ish) of the second volume, started just this month. And Frank Kafka is so with us again.

    PS: Are quotes by chance banished from this forum? Is so, sorry
    • CommentAuthorANIMLBOOGY
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2008
    This book does well at my local store, and I know a lot of people who read it, including some who don't read anything else in singles or even don't read many comics at all. Noir types seem to love this whether they like comics or not.

    Yet the sales aren't nearly as high as they should be. It must be an Iowa City thing.

    The backmatter is among the best in comics, and I know it wouldn't fit as-is in the trades. Something should be done with this series outside of the direct market, though, with some of that extra noir-culture sort of feel. Too bad Icon is basically there to publish and forget. This series has enormous potential.