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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2008
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    One thing I find to be interesting is the speed with which the other Freakangels seem to have accepted Alice as one of their own. As of Freakangels 27 we're still within the same day as Freakangels 1. And at the start of that day Alice showed up with a shotgun and tried to kill them. Granted that she was under Mark's telepathic influence at the time, she still tried to kill them.

    I can see them feeling a little sorry for her and wanting to help her out. I can even see them beign happy that she kept her head and did her job at the watchtower. I'm a little unsure as to why they'd be okay with bringing her to the Freakcave.

    Granted I don't know what the Freakcave is. From context, though, it seems like it's a private place where the 'angels can be themselves and talk openly about the things that they'd really prefer the rest of Whitechapel be ignorant of (such as their mental abilities and the whole "ending the world" thing).

    I can pretty much see why Conner would accept Alice, as it's pretty clear he's already got a bit of the thing for her. It does seem odd that Kirk and Karl, who are two of the harder-edged, suspicious member of the 'angels would be okay with it. Or at least not register any dissent. I could easily have seen Kirk at least say "Maybe later, Conner, when we all know each other a bit better."

    I'm wonderign if there's something a little special about Alice herself.
    • CommentAuthorMDickey
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2008
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    Perhaps Alice was reprogrammed a bit... 'Sides she's a good introduction tool.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2008
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    Additionally, didn't she have her mind nuked? Seems the Freakangels could get into her head and see what kind of a person she really is.
    • CommentAuthormunin218
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2008
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    They were in her head.... I'd think they'd know her pretty well by now.
    • CommentAuthorLachesis
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2008
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    Hm. I saw at as being plausible because
    they seem to have a collective sense of responsibility for the world being that way, as they continually refer to themselves as the cause of it, and also because the person who sent her after them was someone they allowed to live when they knew they shouldn't, someone who was also "one of them". It seems like they feel it's their responsibility to make things right with her and for her since her whole family is completely gone.


    Also, I kind of think if they didn't help her, it would be hard to justify them as the type that would help all of White Chapel if they wouldn't be willing to help one girl who's life was also destroyed by one of their number.
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      CommentAuthordiello
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2008
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    Hey now, Connor said she'd just made herself an Honorary FreakAngel. I would wager some of the others in Whitechapel know about them, and are welcome in the Freakcave, too.
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    They all read her, and Alice is someone who needs them, and they need her as well. Mark brought her to them, as destruction, but that was not her fault. She may not be able to fulfill their expectations, she may backslide, but really I think she will become a crucial element that holds them together. Will she be <del>Kirk's</del>LUKE's salvation?
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2008
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    One thing that strikes me is the way that Alice treats the 'angels. She has no trouble getting in Conner's face about the ladders, made her point about food to Conner and Kirk in a reasonable way and otherwise conducted herself with the 'angels as though they were equals, powers or not. She doesn't seem to treat the 'angels any differently than she would treat any other person. I suspect thats a rare and wonderful feeling for them, being treat like normal people by a normal person.

    We haven't heard a lot from the other Whitechapel residents. I suspect that they tend to treat the 'angels with a certain degree of deferance, even awe. Let's face it, the most of the other Whitechapel people we've seen are members of Sirkka's harem, Caz's assistents and the market folks giving food to Kirk. The only Whitechapeler not like that was Luke's ex-lover, and Luke is treated with a certain level of contempt by the other 'angels. Perhaps unconsciously the 'angels see Alice as a kind of chance to be accepted by the outside world that they destroyed.
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      CommentAuthorliamshiels
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2008
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    I think Mark's currently in Alice's head, and he's either exerting some influence surreptitiously (which is unlikely, not Warren's normal approach), or the other Freakangels are actually that nice to people who've they feel responsible for hurting in one way or another.
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    I think Connor's got the softest heart of the bunch, and the lot of them have an agreement to accept each other's risks, so when he took her in the rest just went with it. It looks to me like they all consider Alice to be his project.
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      CommentAuthorobliterati
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2008
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    <blockquote>We haven't heard a lot from the other Whitechapel residents.</blockquote>Alice also seems to know all about the Freakangels' abilities, she was aware of this even before she showed up with the shotgun. I wonder how many other residents know who they're living with.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2008
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    Alice also seems to know all about the Freakangels' abilities, she was aware of this even before she showed up with the shotgun. I wonder how many other residents know who they're living with.


    She was? I don't recall that. Alice knew that the other Freakangels were Mark's "family" but didn't know anything about there powers until those powers were used on her. I remember her threatening Conner with the knife and being surprised and frightened because her hand was moving against her will. I also remember Conner explaining to her that purple eyes + pale skin meant "they can read your mind."
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      CommentAuthorobliterati
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2008
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    <a target="_blank" href="http://www.freakangels.com/comics/FA0005-5.jpg">In episode 5</a> Alice mentions that she'd encountered Mark's mindreading abilities before, and also explains that such abilities weren't very well-known even to his friends. If Mark hid his talents from Alice's family, maybe the rest of the Freakangels hide their talents too? How many people know about them anyway?
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      CommentAuthordiello
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2008
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    Episode 14, page 2:
    Connor: "Not everyone here knows."
    Alice: "Is that right? Keep it a secret, do you?"
    Connor: "Little bit."
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      CommentAuthorkimieye
    • CommentTimeDec 6th 2008
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    I think liamshiels, got a good point they feel responsible to her. Also I think as they are constantly living in each others heads if Conner's got a thing for her they are going to have to accept her. Luke and Sirkka non withstanding (because one is a fuckwit and the other it has been stated has a different set of priorities in rebuilding the world) none of the other Angels seem to have very close relationships with anyone but each other.
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      CommentAuthorHylianHearts
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2008 edited
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    She's also the one with the most recent information on Mark. For all the "Angels know, he could look differently. But Alice has seen him the last out of the group. He's changed since they kicked him out, maybe not only in looks, but in personality as well. And she would know.

    (edit brought to you by The Laptop, which is impossible to type on when daughter pulls at power cords.)
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      CommentAuthorJay Kay
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2008
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    It might also be that, since they're telepaths, they can easily get into her mind and knew that she had no malintent after they wiped Mark's programming on her.

    Plus what everyone else said about her having the most recent information on Mark, being someone who treats them as equals, and all of that.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2008
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    Also I think as they are constantly living in each others heads if Conner's got a thing for her they are going to have to accept her. Luke and Sirkka non withstanding (because one is a fuckwit and the other it has been stated has a different set of priorities in rebuilding the world) none of the other Angels seem to have very close relationships with anyone but each other.


    One thing that's interesting is that we really don't know that much about the sexual politics of the Freakangels. If we listen to Karl, it's all a bunch "crap shagging." However, up to now the only 'angels we've seen in sexual situations have been Sirkka and KK. It would seem logical that at least some of the Freakangels are paired up aside from on/off business between Jack and Sirkka. I'm wondering which 'angel has been with Conner and if she (or he) still has feelings that might flare into jealously along then line. For that matter, if Alice ends up saving Kirk's life, Conner might have competition for Alice's hand.

    Oh God, reading this over makes me fear for the inevitable arrival of Freakangel fanfic. God forgive me for what horrors I may have unleashed...
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      CommentAuthorJay Kay
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2008
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    @JohnJones: I'm thinking up Conner/Karl slash-fic and Arkady chicks-with-dicks stories as we speak.

    That was a joke, by the way.

    Or was it?
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2008
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    @johnjones - too late, you've invoked rule 34 now and all is lost...