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    re: Victoria Jackson, I always hated her the most on SNL, and she was on during long stretches where nearly everyone on the cast was immensely hate-worthy.

    Her path compared to Julia Sweeney's (another largely unfunny former cast member of SNL) is an interesting study. Julia used to be a devout Catholic, but after doing some soul-searching and really studying the Bible with a skeptical mind, found religion to be too much bullshit to subscribe to. Meanwhile, Victoria has continued down a delusional evangelical path that leads to ever-more-insane religiously-motivated thoughts. Like:
    Thank you God above for giving us George W. Bush, and for giving us John McCain and Sarah Palin.


    That website is so awesome.
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    From the IMDb website in regards to Jackson...

    . In l99l she re-united with her high school sweetheart, married him, and moved to Florida where he's a police helicopter pilot. As a mother of two, homemaking is her priority now, but she's always available to perform ...if the price is right!

    I wonder what made her feel that her past fame makes her compelling enough to campaign for McCain? Is it Dennis Miller's 'success' at punditry?
  3.  (4005.3)
    if the price is right!

    That's actually the only show she can get on these days. And even then, Drew Carey just stares at he boobs.
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    Anyone else tuning into Obama's half hour infomercial?

    I'm kinda not digging it... seems a lil over the top, and I'm thinking as many people will be turned off by it as will be brought in.
  5.  (4005.5)
    I'm watching it. Glad I wasn't the only one who deemed it an infomercial. It does seem a wee bit ham handed, but I'm waiting to see what the "Live Obama Event" is towards the end.
    • CommentAuthorZJVavrek
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     (4005.6)
    Wait, that's happening now? Anybody have a stream of it online?
    • CommentAuthorScottS
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     (4005.7)
    @doclivingston

    I'm not going to watch it, and I agree with that it is a bit on the overkill side of things.

    That being said, I don't think it will hurt him. The people that are going to vote for him anyway will watch it, the people who won't vote for him will just whine about it. Not a big deal either way and it won't affect anything in the long run.
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      CommentAuthorSara 013
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008 edited
     (4005.8)
    So far: Infomercial about various families around the US, highlighting financial problems surrounding retirement, foreclosures, crap big companies, healthcare, and education. The background music is a bit... annoying......

    I wonder who his target audience is.

    EDIT: PS> How does a tax credit (cut?) provide tuition to students?
  9.  (4005.9)
    Yeah, the dramatic music's making me cringe. And agreed ScottS, this is probably going to be a non-factor. Except maybe as something the right will hold up as evidence of... something. Wasteful spending? I'm sure the price tag on this production is probably a bit hefty. I assume the target audience is the middle class undecideds, but I can't see this really grabbing them that strongly if they aren't already convinced.
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    I think it may be rather effective. The underlying vibe of the thing seems to be... well, trying to repeatedly get across that Obama is AMERICAN, is HALF WHITE, is NOT "PRO BLACK", is PRO FAMILY.... I get the sence that the whole idea behind this is less to get votes, but more to set the record straight so that perhaps the strange misnomers about his heritage and lifestyle can be dismissed. Perhaps it's more an attempt to curb the riotous reaction to having a BLACK MARXIST TERRORIST ISLAMIC president? I notice that they refer to him as "Barack", that he mentioned his only having known his father for a month's time at age 10...

    It IS an infomercial, but... it has nothing negative whatsoever, and for that, I applaud him.
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    He's always good speaking live and working a crowd, so the half hour certainly finished strong, but this is nothing new or revelatory. Meh. It's like they had a shit ton of extra money laying around and figured fuck it, let's make an infomercial.
  12.  (4005.12)
    That is, in fact, exactly what they did.
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      CommentAuthorSara 013
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     (4005.13)
    RachaelNoel
    "It IS an infomercial, but... it has nothing negative whatsoever, and for that, I applaud him."

    That's a good point.
    After seeing nothing but attack and counter-attack campaign ads on TV, it was kinda nice to see nothing negative, as you said.
    • CommentAuthormlpeters
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     (4005.14)
    I thought it was effective - - remember the target audience isn't us... it's more geared toward the undecided voter, the misinformed, or low-information voters who hear the attack adds from McCain and trustingly think there MUST be SOMETHING behind the allegations... it's for those people (living in caves or somethin') who STILL say, "We don' know nothin' 'bout Obama, or where he stands, what he's a gonna do -- dunno if we can trust 'im". This is Obama giving a final push to introduce himself to the low-information voter (who didn't bother watching the convention -- and Obama made good use of some footage from the convention here), to show them he's not the scary boogie-man McCain and A.M. talk radio try to paint him, to show instead a good man, worthy of the following he's accumulated and more importantly, worthy of their votes.

    I thought it had a strong "New Deal" vibe -- I liked that.

    I'm waiting to hear McCain mocking Obama's eloquence and idealism. That's all the old man has left, his cynicism and bile.
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      CommentAuthorSara 013
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     (4005.15)
    "it's more geared toward the undecided voter, the misinformed, or low-information voters who hear the attack adds from McCain and trustingly think there MUST be SOMETHING behind the allegations... it's for those people (living in caves or somethin') who STILL say, "We don' know nothin' 'bout Obama, or where he stands, what he's a gonna do -- dunno if we can trust 'im"."

    Yeah... I imagine that's the case... but I guess what I'm wondering is,
    would those people actually watch this when there are tons of other things on TV...?
    • CommentAuthormlpeters
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     (4005.16)
    @Sara
    A lot of poorer and lower middle class people don't have cable.

    It's also only a half hour, so if they were too impatient to watch the convention, this might be more palatable.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     (4005.17)
    The Obama campaign has so much money they have to do something with it.
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    Price tag was $4 million, by the by. Not that that bugs me. I just anticipate that being a focal point for weakass critiques from the right.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     (4005.19)
    RCP has Obama up by 5.9% onaverage.

    Over the past week, McCain's apparently gained around 1-2% - well within the margin of error.

    But between that and the Bailey Effect, some Republicans are convincing themselves it'll be a close race.

    Now even if they're correct at the level of the national popular vote (and I don't think they are), Obama still has a massive overwhelming lead in the electoral college.
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      CommentAuthorSara 013
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
     (4005.20)
    mlpeters
    A lot of poorer and lower middle class people don't have cable.

    Yeah, I realize that. (I didn't have cable until I moved out on my own.)
    But it was on only 3 of the 8-10(?) broadcast stations here...
    ...was just an idle thought, really. Not really important.

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