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London Zoo: [Closed] The US Election Thread: One Week Out
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To hearken back for a moment to the start of September, the local indy media has put together a documentary thing about the RNC clusterfuck called Terrorizing Dissent:
Glass Bead Collective, Twin Cities Indymedia, and other independent media activists have released a new film, 'Terrorizing Dissent', an exposé of events at the 2008 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota.
Featuring first-person accounts and footage from more than forty cameras on the streets, 'Terrorizing Dissent' focuses on the story of dissent suppressed. People charged with "conspiracy to riot in furtherance of terrorism" speak out against the government's campaign to manipulate media coverage and label civil disobedience and community organizing as terrorism.
I've not had a chance to watch it yet, but fuck that's one hell of a trailer. Let's get/keep these people out of office please. -
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CommentAuthorWilliam Joseph Dunn
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2008
"Conspiracies are more often true than not? I don't know if I agree with that. Like at all."
I meant specifically with this administration for the last 8 years. stuff that sounded crazy (I'm pretty sure I don't need to list them here) turned out to be proven later. -
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It's easy to steal a tight election, damn near impossible to steal a landslide. Vote, unclench, have a beer. Issa gonna be all right.
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I voted today.
Standing in line for 3 minutes? no problem
Filling out a paper ballot? about seven minutes.
Voting against a campaign based on fear and innuendo? Priceless. -
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CommentAuthororwellseyes
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2008
Oh dear, looks like McCain's national spokesperson left his brain on the night stand.
The smug little fucker is implying Louis Farrakhan of course, who Obama has deep connections to. By that I mean they both are black, live in Chicago and are White Sox fans.
So now Obama is an anti-Semitic, marxist, socialist, secret Muslim, terrorist-sympathizer who hates babies and loves "the gay". If you're keeping track. -
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- CommentAuthorKeeperofManyNames
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2008
We all know about this Farrakhan character? Really?
No, seriously?
Damn, I don't even know what I know anymore. Clearly I've been completely brainwashed by the liberal media. -
- CommentAuthorKosmopolit
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2008
Nick Silver of fivethreeeight.com tells Dan Rather that if McCain wins Pennsylvania "We'll be up pretty late" but that Obama still has a good chance of winning.
So, yeah, on election night watch New Hampshire and Pennsylvania.
If there is a broad late shift back to McCain NH is probably the first state where it'll be reported. If the Democrat vote there holds up to 2004 levels and Obama wins in Pa. we can pretty much call it. -
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CommentAuthordoclivingston
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2008 edited
It's easy to steal a tight election, damn near impossible to steal a landslide. Vote, unclench, have a beer. Issa gonna be all right.
Exactly what I was gonna say.
Pretty much, the last two elections were good to steal because the closeness and margin of error helped to cover the theft (it's easy to shift one or two percentage points, incredibly obvious to shift seven or eight). Trying to steal this one will immediately result in intense investigation and would likely solidify the utter dismantling of the Republican party as we know it, if they have the gall to try it.
This thing's going to be a blow-out. I'm not worried. Daily we're getting more and more evidence of the wheels coming off the McCain campaign. I can't muster the slightest bit of worry about it. -
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CommentAuthorWilliam Joseph Dunn
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2008
holy shit is Goldfarb a fucking retard. -
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An article in Politico dismisses a bunch of rumors, among them the one about McCain as a reckless daredevil pilot.
Good. I know someone here brought it up, but it's unfounded and not worthy of (our) political discussion. -
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CommentAuthordoclivingston
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2008 edited
Good. I know someone here brought it up, but it's unfounded and not worthy of (our) political discussion.
Did you actually read that link? It doesn't dismiss the reckless pilot thing at all. In his history, McCain lost at least one aircraft through his own fault, another due to unknown failure, and the circumstances of his getting shot down may or may not have been his own fault. He caused another accident that didn't result in loss of aircraft, butMcCain admitted to causing that incident through "daredevil clowning" but returned safely.
The dude flew through power lines in Spain. The article you're linking only dismisses one specific rumor, which I'd never even heard till now. So yeah. The "reckless daredevil pilot" tag remains. -
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CommentAuthorLudwigTheurer
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2008
Remember kids, US election system is made to avoid that young, not-so-wise voters and non-true Americans that don't love the country have a say. Keep fearing. -
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@doclivingston
"This thing's going to be a blow-out. I'm not worried. "
It's talking like that that has earned us the reputation for "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" -- don't get cocky or tempt a jinx, now...
Remember -- there are a lot of idiots and bigots out there and they're easy to dismiss... because they're idiots and bigots - -but their vote counts as much as anyone's. -
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CommentAuthordoclivingston
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2008 edited
It's talking like that that has earned us the reputation for "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" -- don't get cocky or tempt a jinx, now...
Sorry, I'm just basing that on actual factual shit like, say, the votes already cast, the consistent polling, the consistent stupidity of the McCain campaign, and the fact Democrats are vastly more enthusiastic about voting than Republicans, meaning turnout's going to continue to show a gigantic disparity between the two voter groups. (I've been beating that particular drum since the start of the primaries, and yet people still aren't weighing that in properly.)
It's done. This isn't cockiness, jinxing is silly, I already voted, and among the 12 million or so others that also already voted (scratch that, 15 million), Obama's enjoying an estimated 19-point lead over McCain. And it's already been demonstrated that this election will have record-breaking turnouts of both young voters and minority voters (because it already HAS). Both groups are solidly Obama.
Sorry. Still not worried. -
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@doclivingston
That's okay -- I'm worried enough for the both of us - - optimistic, but worried -- Warren hasn't changed his call on the election, has he?
The early voting, though record breaking, will be only a small percentage compared to election day voting.
I just don't want anyone getting complacent and figure they have something better to do, the lines are long and Obama's gonna win anyway, so... Maybe we'll see a REAL blowout election if everyone who said they'll vote actually votes, but that's far from the historical precedence. -
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CommentAuthordoclivingston
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2008 edited
The early voting, though record breaking, will be only a small percentage compared to election day voting.
They're estimating it'll likely be a good 30% of the total vote. And the historical precedence thing is sorta my point: every step of the way history has been made. Demographic-wise, numbers-wise, turnout-wise, candidate-wise. I have zero fear of the typical American apathy letting this one slip to McCain, because that typical American apathy has already been seen smashed to shit. -
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I carved jack-o-lanterns tonight.
(Amendment 2 is Florida queer-haters' attempt to keep The Gay from being The Married. Also, to potentially fuck up any domestic partnership agreements in the process. Go, bigots!)
Anyone who wants to snag the Obama symbol jack-o-lantern for icon purposes, go for it. Anyone who wants to carve eir own, know it was easy and took way less time than the "vote no on 2" one. But having a decent exacto knife craft kit made doing the outer ring much easier than it would otherwise have been.
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Can anyone name the other two candidates for POTUS?
Why the FUCK not?
My vote is for Cynthia McKinney. I'm disappointed that Ralph Nader isn't making enough noise. I'm fucking sick of the Good Cop/Bad Cop drama that this Pretenders election is all about. They're both M'F'in COPS and we all know what American cops are like?! God, it just makes me sick that it's all about the corporate-sponsored Dems versus Reps. Y'all are fooling yourself if you think Obama is going to seriously change things.
Having said that, my money's on Obama to win by a landslide if the Republicans don't steal it. Hire some Goddamn hackers! They've gotta be better than their lot, bro! -
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CommentAuthororwellseyes
- CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
McCain Surrenders Wife, Campaign, to Friendly Mythical Giant/Plumber
McCain's campaign now consists of a number of "Blank the Blanks". Blue-collar, working stiffs just like you and me who make close to a quarter million dollars a year and own one or more companies. Men just like you, who think that Obama's election will mean the death of Israel.
Tito the Builder is my personal favorite. Both links in this post are from Fox, who love these symbolic blocks of wood and their simple message for middle class and blue-collar folks to vote against their own best interests.
He was on a local radio show here in Chicago, Roe Conn which is somewhat right leaning, and when the host trie4d to make a harmless joke Tito started lashing out saying how "You think this is funny? We are trying to elect the president!"
Then my radio caught on fire from the Irony of that statement.
God and the electoral college willing the McCain/Palin Carnival and Sideshow only has five days left before it trundles off the steal the souls of little boys in another town -
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from Nygaard's comments:
"So, BoingBoing says someone yelled that the O-word is an N-word at a Palin rally."
Perhaps that someone was actually yelling "Nygaard!"
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