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    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     (4005.181)
    Doc Livingstone: a 70:30 split of 15 million votes translates into roughly 10.5 million to 4.5 million or a lead of six million.

    Bush only won by 3 million last year.

    It'll be damn hard for the Pubs to overcome that.
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      CommentAuthorSara 013
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     (4005.182)
    I admire your optimism and wish I could share it, but I'm currently incapable of being optimistic.
    ...computer voting that switches the votes and doesn't leave a paper trail.
    ...pull the lever for the straight party vote, but oops, we forgot to tell you the Presidential vote was separate.
    ...the Barkley Effect, really, who could have known that it exponentially increases as the position of authority increases?
    ...and if none of those are enough, there are plenty of whack-job, neo-nazis around willing to give their life for the cause.

    Never mind me, I'm just feeling like Eeyore today.
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      CommentAuthorvrbtm
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     (4005.183)
    Weird news flash on Drudge.

    PURGE: SKEPTICAL REPORTERS TOSSED OFF OBAMA PLANE
    Fri Oct 31 2008 08:39:55 ET

    NY POST, DALLAS MORNING NEWS, WASHINGTON TIMES TOLD TO GET OUT... ALL 3 ENDORSED MCCAIN

    **Exclusive**

    The Obama campaign has decided to heave out three newspapers from its plane for the final days of its blitz across battleground states -- and all three endorsed Sen. John McCain for president!

    The NY POST, WASHINGTON TIMES and DALLAS MORNING NEWS have all been told to move out by Sunday to make room for network bigwigs -- and possibly for the inclusion of reporters from two black magazines, ESSENCE and JET, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

    The last sentence there is a little too ugly, but I don't know what to make of the rest of it.
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    NY POST unabashedly tilts for Charles Foster Ka--er, Rupert Murdoch's beloved GOP. It's not like the O camp's merely throwing out a paper that leans right; they're refusing privileged access to one that's declared war on journalism in favor of propaganda.

    Ditto the Times, dictated by the Lord High Second Coming of Crazy, Rev. Moon.

    DMN I can't speak to. Anyone?
  2.  (4005.185)
    The Obama campaign had someone from Moonie Times on its plane? That can’t be right. The only people who read Moonie Times (all 50,000 of them or whatever its abysmal circulation is these days) are psyschotic and not worth courting as voters.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     (4005.186)
    In other words, the Obama camp booted a paper from a state that'll vote for them anyway; one from a state that won't vote fro them anyway and a paper that nobody reads.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     (4005.187)
    Apparently Bill O'Reilly attributes john Mccain's poor polling to not going on his show enough.

    For some time now, fox seems to have been bracing for an Obama victory and preparing to blame it on electoral fraud and media bias.

    These are, of course, the same people who think it's unpatriotic to criticise the President in a time of war.
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      CommentAuthorvrbtm
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008 edited
     (4005.188)
    Would my Minnesotan brethren give an update on Coleman/Franken? I find that to be the closest and most interesting race in the country (maybe tied with Hagen/Dole). I've seen the polls, but does anyone have insight to share? Any late-breaking stuff expected? Julia Sweeney on the stump, perhaps.
    • CommentAuthorpi8you
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008 edited
     (4005.189)
    @vrbtm - Bill Clinton was in town to stump for Franken last night(I like the STrib's picture better), no sign of late boosters for Pawlenty(but he's responding to a lawsuit this morning about some Stevens-esque looking stuff), Barkley's finally put out an ad(looking for the video), and MPR's calling it a dead heat, with the numbers within the margin of error and a large number of 'soft' voters. There's also accusations of Coleman sleeping around(with women!), doesn't seem to have grabbed any attention as yet, and I don't know that its going to at this point.

    Coleman's a dirty fuck that's busy failing to win the hearts of Wellstone lovers, but he's put some serious effort into my home area of the state. Never particularly been a fan of Franken, but he's sitting as one of the lynchpins in the plan to get the Senate to 60 and he's definitely waged a decent campaign. Barkley's a wildcard that will either see his numbers plummet on election day, create a mass of chaos in the numbers, or take it all, a bit of that Ventura anything-could-still-happen creeping in. Despite knowing its bad for Franken's chances, I still keep getting this urge to vote for Barkley, possibly due to being 17 when it came time to elect Ventura(gods, that was 10 years ago?).
    • CommentAuthorpi8you
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     (4005.190)
    Morning political amusement, Obama and Palin being added as playable characters in Mercenaries 2, with trailer goodness:

    Apparently the battlefield's too rough for McCain ;)
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    Clearly, the one thing that can stop the Obama juggernaut now is the flaky computer voting machines.

    My worry is that if those machines flip the victory to McCain, and it is clear this is what happened, things could get very ugly here. As in massive civil unrest, giving Bush the excuse to finally invoke the martial law powers he's been quietly putting in place these past few years.

    My other worry is that a decisive Obama victory will set off the racists and related kooks, who will raise enough hell that it'll be Obama who invokes the martial law powers Bush thoughtfully put into place for him.

    I'm going to wait out the election in my bunker. In the meantime, for the anarchist point of view on this election (or any election), here's a video from my internet pal Stefan Molyneux:

  4.  (4005.192)
    dont want to get your hopes up
    pretty much all the media here have written McCain off and handed it to the challenger. see the BBC for their coverage.

    i sometimes watch Fox on deep cable over here, normally for shits and giggles, and i cant see how they are going to spin this.
    personally i think its going to come down to the wire, dirty tricks on all sides, and the aftermath is going to be something we havent seen before - no matter who wins. i honestly dont see a seamless transfer of power.
  5.  (4005.193)
    @sara 013
    the neo nazi side bar story was the most disturbing part of this weeks coverage, what with their dastardly plans for mass murder and beheadings written in (i presume) crayons.

    get close to him and defeat his security by wearing "white tuxedos and top hats" to blend in then drive at him all guns blaring. christ, its hardly day of the jackal,is it.
    and i worry too about all the others out there who may not be that stupid.
    • CommentAuthorScottS
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     (4005.194)
    I don't think we'll see a "seamless transfer of power" no matter who wins, but I also think people are underestimating the public's sheepishness. There will be some outcry from either the far left or the far right (depending on who wins obviously) but overall I think the American people will just kind of shrug their shoulders and say there isn't much that can be done about it now and just hope for the best for the next four years.
  6.  (4005.195)
    "My worry is that if those machines flip the victory to McCain, and it is clear this is what happened, things could get very ugly here. As in massive civil unrest, giving Bush the excuse to finally invoke the martial law powers he's been quietly putting in place these past few years."


    I don't know, if you mean "civil unrest" as in people getting their guns and storming the White House, I think your underestimating the apathy of the American public.
  7.  (4005.196)
    Bill O'Reilly also took time out of his latest book to explain how he would have ended "Seinfeld" better than incarceration by simply showing a highlight reel. And he sexually harasses young women. His opinion deserve a level of respect normally afforded to the nutritional value of Funnyuns.
  8.  (4005.197)
    Early voter numbers from key states:
    Florida - About 2.6 million already voted, 45% registered Democrats, 39% registered Republicans
    North Carolina - About 1.6 million voted, 54% Democrats, 29% Republicans
    Iowa - About 370,000 voted, 49% Democrats, 29% Republicans
    Colorado - About 815,000 voted, 39% Democrats, 37% Republicans
    Nevada - About 342,000 voted in Clark and Washoe Counties (where nearly 90 percent of the state's population lives), 53% Democrats, 30% Republicans
    New Mexico - About 111,000 voted in Bernalillo County, state's largest, 55% Democrats, 33% Republicans
    Georgia - Black voters make up about 35% of those who have already voted (up from 2004 election, when 25% of the state's electorate was black), and who voted for Obama 9-to-1 in the primaries

    Georgia releases demographic info but not party info, not all states or counties report, and none reveal actual votes, but it's fairly safe to assume Democrats are voting Barack. Also worth noting Barack is sure to steal more Republican votes than McCain will Democrat votes.
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    @William
    I don't see any kind of mass movement, of the likes of Coksey's Army, marching on Washington. If Obama loses and it's clearly a stolen election I worry about race riots in some cities. If a bad cop-beating jury-verdict can make Los Angeles explode, what happens when a person who has become the embodiment and vessel of most African-Americans' hopes and aspirations gets cheated out of his just achievement? I think if I were black I'd throw some bricks myself.

    On the other side, I see a clutch of white supremacists much smaller in number but much more focused and therefore dangerous in potential, reacting to an Obama victory by pulling off some Murray Office Building-type bombings, or maybe sniping at black Federal employees, or some such rash of insanity that will similarly lend public support for further expanding police power. Heck, the public will practically beg to be subjugated, for safety's sake.

    But maybe I am just paranoid. We'll see, won't we?
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      CommentAuthorvrbtm
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2008
     (4005.199)
    Why don't we notch down the pronouncements of race riots? ...If for no other reason than it is worthless to discuss.
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    @vrbtm: Hell yes. If Obama loses it's not the Watts riots on a national scale. People will do stupid shit, but I don't see it turning into Obama-geddon.

    McCain fans love torturing kids by the way. Here's a McFail supporter who got tired of people stealing his signs, so he ELECTRIFIED them.



    Someone's going to be watching the results from jail.

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