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    I have that horrible feeling, too, Oddcult. No matter what the polls show, or how many people and organizations endorse him, no matter how much classier, more handsome, more eloquent and charismatic Obama is than McCain, I can't get my hopes fully up. There's a distrust in the outcome of these things stuck in my gut after the last eight years. I can't get rid of it. Even the silly, shallow rules, like the taller man usually wins, are no comfort to me until November 4th swings 'round. At least I have Halloween to distract me in the meantime. If someone comes to my friend's party as Sarah Palin, I'm gonna cry.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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    So what are the key east cost states to watch on the night?

    Presumably if McCain takes Pennsylvania that's bad news for the reality-based community.

    On the other hand if Obama takes both Virginia and North Carolina and holds Pennsylvania we can probably call it right there.

    If he takes Georgia I'm breaking out the good stuff.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008 edited
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    @Rough Night, yeah I hear that McCain's gaining in this or that poll or I remember the bullshit in Florida 2000 or Ohio 2004 and a little voice tells me the fix is in.

    Then I look at this.

    Obama's current projected electoral college vote is about 120 ahead of where Kerry was at this point on '04.

    I think the Roves and Cheneys are at the point where the risks involved in stealing this one outwiegh the risks of letting Obama win.
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    I don't mean to come late to the party, but:

    Jesus...on a RAPTOR!
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    @Kosmopolit

    Thanks for that link - the comments are priceless.
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      CommentAuthorSpiraltwist
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008 edited
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    • CommentAuthorpi8you
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008 edited
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    Thanks for that Spiral, I've been far to negligent with TDS/Colbert of late.

    and how have we missed this site throughout?
    • CommentAuthorScottS
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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    Over on FOXnews.com they have a big story about how McCain's Pollsters see the race as being "too close to call"

    Hmm.. McCain pollsters. Surely they are fair & balanced, just like Fox news. Sure seems odd that almost all the independent polls show Obama with a pretty good lead.
    • CommentAuthorpi8you
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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      CommentAuthorvrbtm
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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      CommentAuthorroque
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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      CommentAuthorSara 013
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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    orwellseyes
    "Minnesota elected a wrestler governor."

    Sure. But we did that cuz it was funny....

    "Al Franken is a, admittedly small, step up."

    Meh. I'm not entirely convinced of that.
    • CommentAuthorJEFFSJ
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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    @Sara 013, orwellseyes

    I was 17 when those of voting age in Minnesota elected Ventura in. I thought it was hilarious. I thought the "Our Governor Can Beat Up Your Governor" t-shirts were clever.

    Now, 10 years later, I don't really see anything funny or amusing about it, and there was really nothing special about his term. Seems to me like he ran business as usual as far as the government is concerned. Sure, there was that tax refund thing, but ultimately it didn't do much. I consider it a blip in my former home state's history. I think it's no more bizarre than Arnie in California or Reagan being president or Sonny Bono in the Senate. I must be confused when I think that if someone can make it to the office they aspire to they must have some sort of qualification or they wouldn't have been elected.

    Or everyone voting for them thought it was a joke.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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    @rickiep00h

    I live in California. I feel your pain.
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    @Rickiepooh:

    I lived in Winona during the first year of Ventura's term. People seemed to find it funny, but were increasingly uneasy as time wore on. Like buyer's remorse.

    Garrison Keelor did a pretty vicious, and accurate, send-up of Ventura , who vowed to "get even".

    Electing carnival acts doesn't make for good government.
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    Dear Media,

    No one gives a FUCK what Elizabeth Hasselback thinks about ANYTHING. Especially the election. She makes Jack Thompson look reasoned and well-informed. Please stop running quotes from a reality show tv cast-off who married some sports star and sits on a bench yelling at old women all day.

    Yours truly,
    Everyone with an IQ over room temperature.
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2008
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    @orwellseyes

    But that's my point; I don't think he did a terrible job or that he fucked the state forever. I think he did a decidedly average job. Like most "carnival acts", I think he got into politics from a "creative" career and ended up being a politician like all the rest. Jesse wasn't a maverick any more than John McCain is. He wasn't a political outsider any more than Sarah Palin is. He was just a guy that wanted to be governor that happened to have what most people consider to be the STUPIDEST CAREER EVER before running.

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