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      CommentAuthorrfrancis
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2007
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    First, thanks for the pointer; I've been wanting to cut my teeth on making some electronic sounds, got my hands on MAGIX Music Maker and so forth, and maybe this'll nudge me to get with it. I'd love to screw around with Perfect Drug, etc.

    Second, I've got Year Zero finally winging its way through the post to me, so I'll have something to say about it shortly. Swapped an old game or something for it on swaptree.
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    No one has mentioned the new Saul Williams, produced by Trent Reznor, yet: http://niggytardust.com/

    Basically, the sales model is daring and shows Radiohead for the pussy-footing hypocrites they are: You can buy this album, ranging in audio quality from 192kpbs, 320kpbs or FLAC Lossless for $5. Or, you can get the entire thing for absolutely nothing at 192kpbs. Even that comes with a PDF inner leaflet and cover artwork. And it helps that, again because the <em>In Rainbows</em> comparisons are unavoidable, this album actually delivers energy and meaningful, soulful music. It's definitely worth a listen or a dozen.
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      CommentAuthorFauxhammer
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2007
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    "Niggy" is friggin' amazing, too. It reminds me of what if the bloodline starting with Afrika Baabaataa and Kurtis Blow were never broken by New Jack Swing, gangsta rap, or the awful "bitches and Cristal" crunk shit that people think passes for good hip-hop these days.
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      CommentAuthorrfrancis
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2007
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    Yeah, I've got "Niggy." As with any album, I like some of it better than I like other of it, but when it's good, it's great. I've got one of its tracks in my queue to play on my podcast, probably the next one, if only because I want to emphatically support the model. It helps that it's quality stuff.
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      CommentAuthorARES
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2007
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    I quite enjoy Year Zero, but it didn't offer much new. I definitely agree with turing concerning the songs being better in the potential. As much as I dig The Warning, I wanted it to get really crazy at the end, but instead it just... stops.

    I did not like With_Teeth, even if it had two absolutely BRILLIANT songs: All The Love in the World and Beside You In Time.

    The Downward Spiral and Broken are my two favourites, The Fragile not far behind either one. The Downward Spiral is certainly one of those Top Ten In The History Of Everything albums. I started listening to them shortly after Broken came out, a friend of mine let me borrow it and I began appreciating keyboards and programming. Unrelated ending to an incoherent paragraph.
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      CommentAuthorrfrancis
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2007
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    I must be unique in liking Pretty Hate Machine better than anything since. It's just my kind of thing. TDS is good, just... more than I normally like, if that makes sense. With Teeth... as you say, I listen to one or two tracks and that's it. Not sure I even have Broken. Hmm.
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      CommentAuthorturing
    • CommentTimeDec 11th 2007
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    OK, I finally downloaded "Niggy" and there's some great stuff here. Standout tracks on the first listen are the title track, "Skin of a Drum" and his cover of "Bloody Sunday" (which works far better than it has any right to). I can tell this is going to be one of those addictive albums that rewards repeated listens. Why did it take me so long to check out Saul Williams?
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      CommentAuthorcarney
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2007
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    Yeah the niggy tardust album was pretty killer. Saul williams is an interesting guy, have you read any of his writing. You can find alot of the lyrics to that album in the DEAD MC scrolls. Here is an interview with the guy http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=1666 . Not to worry its audio.
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    Also downloaded 'Niggy'. I'm going to have to give it another listen. First impressions are mixed, mainly because I just don't get on with rap vocals, and the lyrics veered from interesting to what for me sounded far too generic.
    • CommentAuthorMDickey
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2007
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    Regarding Tapeworm: One of the things that might have started the downfall of Tapeworm, (as I am sure they were many other) was that A Perfect Circle was playing a song on tour, they ended up calling "Vacant", but it was some of Maynard and Trent's work from the Tapeworm project. Trent was not to happy because they were nowhere near a release date.
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      CommentAuthorcarney
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2007
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    Or it the downfall could have been, egos. I actually have the tapeworm, album its very unfinished. The only lyrics to any of the songs are by Manson. And a bootleg version of vacant. In which maynard states that they were working on the Vacant song, but they spiced it up a little. Strange stuff. IF anyone is interested I can send it to you through Gmail.