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    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2011
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    We're probably okay these days, but time was, if you mentioned Sean Manchester's name online, he must have been permanently ego-searching, and he (or a blatant sockpuppet) would turn up and threaten to sue or have a giant hissy fit over anything negative said about him.

    The weird mad love affair between Manchester and David Farrant is by turns fascinating and pathetic. I've a small stack of the various pamphlets and self-published books they've both come out with over the decades. I'm sure there's some kind of meta-story to be created from it all, that doesn't have much to do with vampires, and maybe I'll have a go, when they're both dead.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2011
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    Maybe somebody should give them their own show, ala Ghost Hunters, in which they each investigate a haunting (perhaps at the same time) and just let the camera record the fun.

    Regarding Vampire: The Masquerade, it was really well done for its time, but over all, I prefer the NWoD concepts over the original ones, especially the character creation process. The process is two-stage for supernaturals. First, you build a human, mortal person, then you add the supernatural template to it. First you build a person, then you turn him into a monster. I really like that.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2011
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    As they're both clearly quite mental, that would be exploitative really.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2011
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    You say that as if it were a bad thing.
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeJul 11th 2011
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    Not to derail the thread, but I'm with johnjones for the most part, but the "big three" titles don't seem to have the same life that the old ones did. New Mage is boring as a turd compared to old Mage. The new Changeling is DELICIOUS, though, and I wish I could con some people into playing a game of Promethean, just to see if it's as fun as it reads.
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    I really dug V:tR, but I thought the Mortal stuff was really wicked. So many options in a world where not EVERYTHING was written down in a sourcebook somewhere. Oh, this really deserves its own nerdery thread, doesn't it?
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    Vampire the masquerade was always my favorite. I have nothing but disdain for the new Vampire line, however, Changeling and Promethean are fantastic. Werewolf needed the reduction in power level they got in the new world, but I liked the plot better in the old.

    @ Alan Tyson - We ran a Promethean game and it was one of the most emotionally intense and deeply involved games I've played. We kept it to a small group of players who were comfortable with each other, so that we could explore what it means to be a monster and what Humanity truly implies. It takes a lot of dedication, but if you can get a small group of players to do it, it's well worth it.

    @government spy - Yes.
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    • CommentAuthorGordon
    • CommentTimeJul 18th 2011
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    Cassidy from Preacher would kick the fuck out of any other vampire without spilling his pint.