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    • CommentAuthorbillyteng
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2009
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    I gotta say, Adama is really into brushing those teeth.
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    @billyteng: What was up with that? Some analogy that’s just over my head? Or just a random task for him to do while keying us in to how pissed off he is.
    • CommentAuthorchris g
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2009
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    Get the prozac ready
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    So did they really need to hide Gaeta at the end there? I mean they spent the whole ep showing us how distressed he was at Adama's actions.
    • CommentAuthorchris g
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2009
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    Baltar is RIGHT
    • CommentAuthorSteadyUP
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009 edited
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    I'm disappointed in Cally. Not for cheating, but for her taste - that guy looks like a tool.

    Oh, and - I'm starting to wonder if Alessandro Jiuliani really did lose a leg, because they're doing an amazing job of making Gaeta's stump look real. Buster Bluth, he's not.
    • CommentAuthorbillyteng
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
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    @ James Puckett: Probably to show that Adama is still carrying through with his day to day tasks no matter what kind of shit life has turned into for everyone, but it might be just what it is, a random task.
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      CommentAuthoroddbill
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
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    I actually have great sympathy for Zarek's stated positions, almost throughout the series, and still even this episode.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2009
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    @Steadyup - that dude is Olmos' real son. He's what Apollo should really look like.

    And yeah, still waiting for Adama to start making little unicorns. And I stand by my theory that this isn't a sequel to the original Battlestar Galactica, it's a sequel to Bladerunner. That explains everything perfectly, especially the shared dreams and prophecy stuff.
    • CommentAuthorSteadyUP
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2009
     (4756.10)
    @Oddcult - thank god for casting.

    @oddbill (you two need to stop posting in the same threads =p) - normally I might agree with you, but one of the things I love about this show is the way it depicts how much human civilization is willing to fuck itself up for the sake of survival. There are all kinds of things going on that are right up there with the worst of real-life politics, but they still make you root for the people responsible, because fuck - the species is on the line! It'd be really easy to ignore things like abortion, or even act like "well, there's only 40 thousand people left alive, but civil liberties are important, so go ahead and have abortions if you want to", but they're not afraid to show what, at least to me, would be the hard reality of it.

    @billy & James - I think it was meant to show his reluctance to have to confront Laura about not going for her treatment (and that he was just generally pissed by the situation).
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    I like Gaeta as agitator. I've never liked Starbuck, always felt she was quite thinly written compared to the other women on the show, so seeing Gaeta giving her a verbal shank was nice. "Someone close that hatch". The most openly "nice guy" from the start , shat on by nearly every lead (Baltar, Starbuck, Anders fucking shoots him) comes to be
    the leader of the final revolution
    ? I like that very much.

    Less weeping and wailing. The bit with the
    laundry file
    was excellent, the kind of smart play the show can still get up to.
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      CommentAuthorFinagle
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2009 edited
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    I've been impressed this season by how the show is dealing with issues of federalism and local control. Their political analogies have been a bit heavy-handed in the past, but this particular conflict between the Quorum and the military has angles to it that don't map exactly onto a straight left vs. right continuum. The writers have us coming down on the side of Adama as enlightened despot - which nearly all writers do - and depicting the Quorum as a knee-jerk, racist and short-signed reactionary body who don't want the gummint to come get our guns!

    On the other hand, you effectively are seeing, throughout the show, a military coup carried out against the lawfully elected government by a military dictator who is keeping the real President's condition a secret and overturning the will of the people.

    Interesting opportunity to look at how willing we are, as fans and as creators, to fall back on the hero as enlightened despot and philosopher-king, and how tough it is to write about democracy in action and make it interesting and sympathetic.
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    and depicting the Quorum as a knee-jerk, racist and short-signed reactionary body who don't want the gummint to come get our guns!

    That's the thing that has kept me tuning in though, that there are people who don't just buy into whatever plot the "A" characters are going with. "Oh, the Cylons are our allies now? And they want to fix all our ships? They just need some alone time with our engines? Sure thing. Lets have a welcome party right here. In the airlock"

    The show is at its best when the characters are being the most myopic and petty.
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      CommentAuthorFinagle
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2009
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    Oh, agreed, it makes for good television. Not nearly as many folks would watch BSG:C-SPAN, and I'm fine with that.

    And it would of course be completely unheard-of for the writers to pull the rug out later on and prove the Quorum right, after all.
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    I'm really enjoying the season so far. There is an anything goes quality that really appeals to me.
    • CommentAuthorSteadyUP
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2009
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    I would eat BSG: C-SPAN up with a spoon. =)
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      CommentAuthoroddbill
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2009
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    In a way, the Cylon's ultimatuming their way into full membership in the ragtag fleet is sort of the same dynamic as Leoban established with Starbuck on New Caprica. Basically, they destroy everything you love, then they claim that they love you and if you are reluctant to accept this, they force you to with violence and emotional manipulation.

    They are like reverse cookoos, not laying an egg in anothers nest, but rather smashing all your eggs, then claiming equal partnership in the nest.

    And then being personally offended if you're at all unhappy about it. As a species, they are sociopaths by design. I wouldn't let them near my engines either.
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      CommentAuthorhowyadoin
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2009
     (4756.18)
    And then being personally offended if you're at all unhappy about it. As a species, they are sociopaths by design. I wouldn't let them near my engines either.
    I get a kick out of their complaints about how they "tried cooperating with the humans" on New Caprica.
    • CommentAuthorSteadyUP
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2009
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    You guys are forgetting one thing: all your complaints < Grace Park's hotness. She can fiddle with my engine all she wants.
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      CommentAuthorGekko
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2009 edited
     (4756.20)
    Okay, but.
    What can be the conclusion: a new start for the humans, after the defeat of all the cylons? Except with the help of a virus device of some sort, again, the full eradication of cylons seems impossible. So I don't see the end as a And They Lived Happilly Ever After The Total Eradication of ALL the Frakking Toasters.
    So? Could we expect the termination of the last human as the end of BG? Is this the alternative?
    Aww.