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    • CommentAuthorlooneynerd
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2009
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    @Krushdbug

    Thats the first thing I thought when I saw it!
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      CommentAuthoroddbill
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2009
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    At least if they'd landed on a Mac planet they'd have had a beach ball to spin.
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    I will let you wank until Monday.


    Much obliged.

    Oh and @Orwell, if I recall correctly further the reason Galactica was not upgraded to the networked system is it was being decommissioned as obsolete.
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      CommentAuthorkrushdbug
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2009
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    @looneynerd

    So it wasn't just me, then.

    All in all I'd say it was a good finale, but: Did Spielbergs "AI" teach us nothing about the dangers of moving the ending of AI-based fiction thousands of years into the future? All that has happened before will, evidently, happen again, and with even cheesier dialogue.
    • CommentAuthorLani
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2009
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    Something just occurred to me - if Hera is The mitochondrial Eve, does that mean *no one* else from the fleet had offspring who survived?
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    @Racingpenguins:

    Not really how it works as I understand. All this would mean is all living humans can trace back their DNA matrelinearly to Hera. It does not mean you don't have some Adama in your genes. Maybe that guy over there has some Tigh. It just means you don't have too. Everyone would trace back to Hera. The theory, like so many, is contested, but for purposes of BSG the narrative point is it means everyone on earth is a hybrid by BSG standards.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2009
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    Something just occurred to me - if Hera is The mitochondrial Eve, does that mean *no one* else from the fleet had offspring who survived?


    I'll need to watch it again, but from I recall "Eve" is the oldest ancester that's been found. So, fine, they found Hera. There's nothing that says that others failed to have offspring. Hell, in the world of BSG, maybe some archeologist is about to dig up Adama's Raptor. Maybe somebody already did and it's in Area 51.
    • CommentAuthorLani
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2009
     (4756.8)
    Well, as I recall, the quote from the paper called her The mitochondrial Eve, indicating one single solitary Eve (in reality, aren't there six?) Wouldn't that mean her mitochondria would have to beat out every other woman's? ...including the native people?

    Yeah, I know I'm taking this far too seriously. Ah well, you're all coming with me on it anyway.

    Also, I refuse to hide text at this point in the thread. People read this far at their own risk, dammit! Be free, my text, be free!
    • CommentAuthorchris g
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2009
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    Gaius and Six at the end felt kinda Matrix-y. I dunno. Still processing even after watching the encore.
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    I think John has it.

    Oldest discovered that everyone would trace back too via maternal lineage. For example if they found Athena's remains, she would have been Mitochondrial Eve. Of course who knows when Athena died. Or any of the Cylons died.


    And as for taking this too seriously, good grief,ha, I have been doing that for years. I own property and have landed voting rights in BSG take it to seriously country.
    • CommentAuthorMaC
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2009
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    Wouldn't Hera being "Mitochondrial Eve" imply that the humanity on modern day BSG Earth is Human/Cylon hybrid like Hera?
    • CommentAuthorLani
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2009
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    Oh. Right. Athena. Duh.

    And MaC, I think that's precisely their point.

    @chris g - do you mean chip Six and Baltar, or real Six and Baltar?
    • CommentAuthorchris g
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2009
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    racingpenguins - the six in the red dress with baltar? yeah them.

    Also kudos to Boomer for snapping that guys neck, cuz I fucking hate math.
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    The inescapable conclusion of JESUSSTAR GODLACTICA is in fact that Bob Dylan is God.

    I've seen that coming since the end of the last season. But as Angel-Baltar says, "He hates being called that"
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      CommentAuthorMShades
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
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    @racingpenguins: Something just occurred to me - if Hera is The mitochondrial Eve, does that mean *no one* else from the fleet had offspring who survived?

    Probably not anyone outside the African colony, no, seeing as how humans were pretty much concentrated in Africa 150,000 years ago. The colonials who went to other continents had a much smaller breeding pool, and unless they got over their polygamy/incest taboos (assuming enough of them survived that first winter - certainly not a given) they probably died out. The ones who stayed in Africa would have been the ones most likely to pass on their genes....
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    Reading TWOP reactions. Felt this post was more than worth linking here in regards to the Luddite issues, and a number of other very well stated arguments, and some fun geek wanking. Avoid most of the posts around it unless you want the undertow of people who needed the show to end their way to drag you into the dark (I have no issue with people who disliked the end, but back seat writing in fandom makes my eyes roll out of my head).
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    Oh and one more thing:

    I am amazed how many reviews or comments I have seen who don't understated that Kara Thrace's destiny as "the angel of death" to "lead humanity to its end" is exactly what happened. I never questioned that it meant change and transformation from the second it was said in Razor. Because the idea it meant literal doom and death (which I have seen yelled from the rafters a few places) makes no narative sense. I know Moore wanted to play with people on that, but I assumed people saw through such a thing. Of course it meant the end of humanity as they knew it (which turned out to encompass both Hybrids replacing humans and civilization as they knew it). Of course it meant death as transformation, how could it have meant anything else?


    Sorry just odd seeing people here and there (though not here on WC that I can recall) get upset they were cheated out of Thrace killing off everyone by mistake or some such...
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    I've seen that coming since the end of the last season. But as Angel-Baltar says, "He hates being called that"

    Of course he does. His name's Bob, not God.
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    Well, this explains all the crap he put Starbuck and his other servants through.

    Good, evil; he doesn't care as long as you don't use His plumbing.
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    @warrenellis:
    Of course he does. His name's Bob, not God.


    And yet they never use his version on the show, instead going for the Hendrix cover.

    I would love to be in the room if they tried to buy the rights to use Dylan's original. Explaining Cylons to Bob? That's a fucking tv show.