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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:24:56 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>warrenellis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Anyone here who does work Print-On-Demand?  Show yourselves, and tell me what you publish through POD.<br /><br />-- W ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:29:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Steve</author>
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			<![CDATA[ It's not done yet, but I'm going to be releasing my book through createspace this summer.  I'm also very interested to see what other people's experience has been with POD and if it's a viable distribution model. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:36:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Finagle</author>
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			<![CDATA[ This probably isn't what you're after, but my wife released a small family memoir through iUniverse, which then also gets listed on Amazon.   We did this just for the convenience of having family and friends order it.<br /><br />If she were actually interested in marketing it, it does seem to have a pretty healthy margin for creators. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:42:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Pooka</author>
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			<![CDATA[ www.ghostzero.com<br /><br />that's the address for a friend of mine who told me that's how he's publishing his book.<br />For the life of me though I couldn't find his publishing company... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:25:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Finagle</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I just checked with my wife and have more specific data:<br /><br />* iUniverse is rather expensive for pictures for whatever reason, so it may not be a great venue for creative visual artists<br />* You do get to work with a human on corrections; included in the price of the initial self-publishing run is a certain # of correction they will accept before the print version is finalized<br />* Unlike traditional self-publishers, they are entirely print on demand, so you don't have 400 copies moldering in your attic<br />* Automatic listing on Amazon.com<br />* Margin was 10%<br />* The price for generating a ~200 page book with a handful of b/w photographs was around $500<br />* Print quality was decent but not amazing, about on par with your average small print run university textbook<br />* Overall price per copy was a bit high at $17 - $18 for a ~220 page paperback, and this is set by iUniverse ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:47:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Alberto</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I printed some <a href="http://vimeo.com/2663098?pg=embed&sec=2663098" >press copies</a> for a webcomic I make using Lulu, but I'm still not sure about opening the purchase to the public. (Is it really worth? If anybody has some experience there, insight would be appreciated).<br /><br />48 pages + full color + the standard comic-book size + staples + shipping + no gain= prize per unit around 12€ / $15.7 / £10.8<br />The printing was good, the soft cover paper is really good and the interior paper could be better but It's still Ok.<br />One of the books arrived without staples. (GROARRR!!)<br />Also, It seems like It's impossible to print on the inside cover.<br /><br />Overall, 12€ for an unknown book that you can't read right now because the shipping takes 10-15 days. Things may differ for an established creator, but I can't compete with what's in the regular market right now. Maybe in a few years, If Diamond keeps turning the screw. Who knows? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:55:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Rootfireember</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I do small poetry/sketch  books and other Little Things via Lulu for my family and some friends. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:28:50 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>chris g</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=685&osCsid=f1ea985369268c6a96f06c2f6bf530b0" >I created a graphic novel</a> through <a href="http://ka-blam.com" >Ka-Blam.com</a>. It's okay. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:47:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>dispophoto</author>
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			<![CDATA[ did up a <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt_jj/sets/72157600947089244/" >test photo book</a> thru <a href="http://blurb.com" >blurb.com</a>, came out pretty well. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:40:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>frequentcontributor</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Sounds prohibitively expensive and that most people are wary of actually releasing product through it. I was curious about this, too, after following links from the Boy Meets Catgirl webcomic thread on here... Interesting, but perhaps not cheap enough, yet. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:46:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Steve</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I dunno about being expensive.<br /><br />From what I've looked at with createspace (their site right now is down, so this isn't accurate), they don't charge anything to get started.  They make all of their money from selling the finished product.  I think they take something like $1.50 per book sold, then take 40% of whatever else is left.  You choose the price of the book.<br /><br />So, if you put your book up for $11.50, you'd get $6 off of every book sold.<br /><br />I'm surprised though, we're 11 hours into the life of this thread, and no one has yet really used POD on a large scale.  No real success stories here, or even fail stories. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:05:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Tom Akel</author>
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			<![CDATA[ i've used comixpress in the past to self-publish 2 books, the quality was solid and the price was decent, but i never marketed them as POD, i'd do a run for cons and get them into local stores myself.  i'm using them again for a book for NYCC for which i have a publisher, but we can't get copies in time so we're doing 100 24pp full-color issues @ 2.87 per.  if you're creating your own work i think its a great model to get started and you have nothing to lose. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:07:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Randall_Kirby</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I publish floppies - Kid humor, superheroes, and mysteries. <br />Cop Comics and Bop! Comics through my company, FLOP Productions<br /> (www.stopstealingmystuff.com) <br /> I haven't quite got to my goal skillset, but I'm not too bad. Mostly I sell through the Stumptown convention or Prism comics.<br />I liked Comicxpress all right. There were some minor difficulties, so I tried Ka-Blam. That was a terrible idea. Not good. They blew my deadline twice, and sent me the wrong files three or four times. Never again. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:11:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>whatever</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I do prose POD.<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Economics-Web-Comics-2nd/dp/0974959820<br />http://www.amazon.com/E-mail-Nigeria-Todd-Allen/dp/0974959804<br /><br />I use Lightning Source, which is owned by Ingram, the book distributor.  They're available on most online bookstores.  Brick and mortar bookstores can order them.  The first one was adopted as a college text at the Savannah College of Art &amp; Design.  The concept works, but it works better if you're doing it with an ISBN number and available through traditional book channels.  CreateSpace will get you on Amazon, which is 3/4 of the battle.<br /><br />You pay a little more upfront and you have to buy the ISBN #'s, but you get &quot;real&quot; distribution from websites people recognize and you can also put your own publishing imprint on it to avoid the old &quot;self-published&quot; stigma in the book world. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:13:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>m.bagen</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I have a considerable body of work that I've made available through POD at lulu.com.  The store is located at <a href="http://stores.lulu.com/m_bagen" >http://stores.lulu.com/m_bagen</a> for anyone who's interested.  I published a collection of short stories and three novels, all of which are available for download or print orders.  I've been considering putting out another collection.  <br /><br />I also have a comic book in the works at the moment, fully scripted and being worked on by the artist.  It'll be POD if it is not picked up by a publisher.<br /><br />Thanks Warren for this opportunity to talk about my work and I do apologize if this sounds too much like an impersonal advertisement.  You reach a point where you just expel the details in consolidated nodules (not unlike bile) so as to spare everyone those pretenses that make advertising very nearly a genre of modern horror.  Here's the stuff, free for download and please, let me know if you like what you see.  You can find it on scribd as well, albeit in electronic form only. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:15:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>gracelandwest</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm publishing a book through lulu at the end of the month.  It's a middle grade fiction book.  It's 473 pages and because I took the distribution package, I'm making approximately $1.23 off each $24.99 book.  However, that's IF it is sold through a distributor (like amazon.com).  It has to be marked up significantly so that amazon and other distributors can give discounts.  I can order copies from lulu myself at a much lower cost (basically, the price of the book), and if the book is sold directly through lulu at the cover price, I make a significant amount of money.<br /><br />Something like this works well for someone like Ellis, who has a following that would probably march right along with him to lulu and pay for a book (as opposed to finding it on amazon).  He would make plenty of cash just from the people on the badsignal list.<br /><br />For me, it's a different story.  I'm marketing to middle school students, so I'm blogging and visiting library conferences (I'm attending one in Shanghai in a couple of weeks).<br /><br />As for POD success stories, there really aren't any.  I'm banking on the 1000 true fans theory and hoping to cultivate that.  I'm releasing my book as a free pdf download, a kindle download, and I'm submitting my iphone app today (I've got some friends in Beijing doing it for me).  However, my book has 100 pages of "bonus" short story material in the print copy that you won't be able to find in the electronic versions.  <br /><br />Either way, look for my book in a couple of weeks!  Boyd McCloyd!  (You can download it to the Kindle right now!). ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:18:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>funklord</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm an editor with a science publishing house that's part of a research institution.  We've been using POD to keep books in print where we want the material to remain available, but there's not a huge demand for the book.  By using POD, we can do very small print runs, 25 or 50 copies, as often as we need.  Previously we would have let those books go out of print, as we would have had to print at least 500 copies to make it economically feasible (more copies than we would ever sell).  We've brought a few out of print books back into print using POD.  We're also considering using it for new books in fast moving fields, printing a few hundred copies at a time, letting the authors continuously revise things, keeping the book fresh and up to date, rather than being stuck with 2000 copies of out of date material in our warehouse. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:21:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Perilous</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've got two books in the pipe at CreateSpace, working on a third. The one problem I've had is editing I have to pay for a copy each time (which is of course, where they make their money, since more often than not, no one is ordering your book). Other than that it's actually a great opportunity to get on Amazon when you're not the type of author who's likely to get published or, for that matter, noticed. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:21:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>katiewest</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I published a photo book through Blurb.com. I made about $14 profit on every book I sold, and I sold well over 100. So, that is without an ISBN, which kinda sucks, but I think it did pretty well. I don't know if having had it on a site like Amazon, would have increased sales at all - the subject matter was naked me, after all, and I think that may appeal to only a certain audience? <br />I would certainly do another one. It is easy, and rewarding. Though I would like to have an ISBN as places asked to sell my book, but couldn't if it didn't have an ISBN. But those puppies are hard to come by, in Canada, and then it becomes a whole tax issue and such. But just to sell some good quality books, POD is lovely. I recommend it! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:25:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>BritMandelo</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I did by accident once. A collection from a flash fiction online zine I was featured in was published through Lulu a year or two ago. It was reviewed by all of two people on the internet, but both of them mentioned my little story, so I was pretty pleased. <a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/1014201" > HeavyGlow: Two Years Burning Brightly. </a><br /><br />All my other stuff is through regular publishers, though. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:35:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>PaulChapman</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've used Lightning Source for several softcovers published for Steve Jackson Games. We've got the advantage of our own list of ISBNs, and we're using them more as a short-short run printer, instead of &quot;true POD with distribution.&quot; Nevertheless, I've been quite happy with the quality of the product and the customer service, and the prices. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:36:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>whatever</author>
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			<![CDATA[ What is the definition of a POD success, BTW?<br /><br />The direct market for floppies is waaaaaaay more front-loaded than the book market and you do need to give these things a little time. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:42:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>jju</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I did a book of my collected travel writing through Lulu as Xmas presents for my friends this year. Had to explain to about a quarter of them that I hadn't been keeping secrets about me being published as it wasn't a real book. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:43:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Chad Michael Ward</author>
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			<![CDATA[ After having published 3 art books thru my publisher NBM, I was inspired by The Katie West to try my hand at POD and recently released DANGEROUS BEAUTIES through blurb.com.<br /><br />I'm a bit suspicious of their sales data and plan on doing my own audit soon, and there's been a few printing complications (1 hardcover shipped with the contents of an entirely different book, a few softcover copies had a serious bleed/alignment issue), but overall I've found POD to be a great way to release stuff that I might otherwise not want to hassle with through normal channels.<br /><br />DANGEROUS BEAUTIES ordering info: http://chadmichaelward.livejournal.com/230523.html ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:57:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Corey Waits</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Well, I've got a question for all you PODers out there. A friend of mine and I did an online magazine for a couple of years, and we had planned on doing up a 'Best Of' type book of articles and images. So, what I want to know is, what is the easiest/bestest way to go about the layout/interior design of that type of book?<br /><br />Is getting a professional designer on board pretty much a necessity if we want it to look, well, uhh, professional?<br />I've got a couple of designer friends, but they're always busy doing full-time, <em >paying</em> work... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:00:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Dreamline</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I published my first novel through iUniverse and I'm currently shopping my  second novel.  However, I'm finding that since my novel isn't about teenage girls and vampires, agents aren't giving me the time of day and I'm probably going to pull the trigger on POD in February.  I'll probably go with iUniverse again.  I was happy with their service the first time and I was pleased with the final result.  <br /><br />I write...because I must.  I publish through POD...because it's better than nothing.<br /><br />www.seanpatricklittle.com ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:19:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>gracelandwest</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @Corey Waits - Since you'll be uploading as a pdf in the end anyway, it doesn't matter.  You could use photoshop or indesign.  I actually did my entire layout (for a prose book, but with pictures) in OpenOffice.  You just need to save it as a pdf.  That being said, OpenOffice will sometimes make graphics heavy documents a bit wonky.  I used photoshop for graphics heavy stuff. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:21:12 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ I guess part of the downside of POD is the general "vanity press" stigma associated with prose books (oddly, the stigma doesn't generally apply with comics) published this way.<br /><br />Someone above suggested making a personal imprint, to give the illusion of a publisher at a glance. The other side of that problem is that real publishers can  get their books reviewed by professionals and talked about. Unless you already have a built in audience (which self-publishing novelists rarely do), it's almost impossible to get your book honestly critically evaluated and brought to the attention of readers.<br /><br />Has anyone ever heard or encountered anything like a POD book review site? Other than the reviews on Amazon, which no one sees unless they are already looking for the book? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:34:59 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>PhilipClark</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I started my first 3 issues of <em >QUANTUM: Rock of Ages</em> through Brenner but then saw the hopelessness in that and switched to POD ever since. I've used ComixPress for floppies and OPM for my TPBs. More than likely I'll be publishing my next floppy with Ka-Blam simply because ComixPress' communication leaves a lot to be desired.<br /><br />Philip Clark<br />http://quantumcomic.net ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:55:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>gracelandwest</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @OddBill - I think that this is the problem with the publishing industry in general.  There's a bit of a snobbishness to being self-published, which is unfortunate.  Still, the entire industry is on the cusp of a change from the old model as the traditional lines of distribution get sullied.  It seems (and I could be wrong) that the publishing industry is going through the same thing as the music industry, just at a slower pace.  Because of POD, the gatekeepers are beginning to get nervous.<br /><br />I think all it will take is one, major breakout hit to change the face of the industry in regards to POD.  And really, imagine how many books Ellis would sell if he did it himself.  I read about what were considered "successes" in self-publishing and few of them sold more than 1000 copies.<br /><br />Not that I'm an expert... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:13:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>thecolin1</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Hi Warren and everyone else. I published my first book, a collection of short stories with CreateSpace and it's been up on Amazon since last June. It's listed up at this URL<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Notions-collection-stories-Colin-Fox/dp/1438240058/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232430775&sr=8-1<br /><br /> I've just finished my second book, also a collection of short stories and also published through CS and it will also be up on Amazon within the week. I've just approved the proof copy and so it's gone up on the CS E-store at<br /><br />https://www.createspace.com/3368080<br /><br />I've found the whole experience to be very smooth, non-expensive and as I have friends who are professional graphic designers, was able to come up with a package that looked professional and nicely designed. For me, it's a way to get something out there, to start building my name up and showing that I can write and get things done. Obviously, I'll be hoping to get a deal with a major publisher but there are a lot of advantages to having an outlet where one can inexpensively put something out that might not be accepted as is at a major publishing house. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:17:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>waniyetuwi</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Constellation Magazine is going POD for our printed version of the magazine.  We were an online astrology and art mag but wanted to supply our readers with a print version as well.  Plus the layouts of the magazine were getting distorted online. We chose magcloud and the first issue will be out Feb, after the retrograde of course.  We chose magcloud specifically for environmental reasons and liked that the viewer gets to preview the magazine before buying. <br /><br />I was also inspired by Katie West to try out blurb.  I composed a book of self portraits of 10 women, each going through a different phase in their life.  My Blurb book, They Be We should be on sale early March.<br /><br />I believe with blurb you can purchase an ISBN but they do not have the setup lulu.com has with Amazon. <br /><br />My roomates teacher publishes through Asphodel Press and I believe they use lulu for all their printing. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:20:47 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Oh and if anyone wants any feedback, advice or help based on the two books I've done through CreateSpace, then by all means, feel free to contact me at thecolin1@gmail.com or on yahoo messenger as derek_zoolander2005. I'm on twitter as well as thecolin1. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:33:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>cblakeley</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ OddBill - There's the <a href="http://thenewpodlerreviews.blogspot.com/" >New Podler Review</a> with a handful of links there.  There was a great one called <a href="http://girlondemand.blogspot.com/" >POD-dy Mouth</a>, but the project became too much for her as it was just going to be a lark, so the archives are still up.<br /><br />I published a collection of three years of my burlesque photography at Blurb.com and I'm very pleased with it.  Ordering details can be found here:  <a href="http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/167154" >http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/167154</a><br /><br />The process of putting the book together (barring the editorial work, which is its own series of "problems") was relatively easy and it's definitely the sort of thing where I'll always be more critical than the reader, so I try not to focus too much on that aspect of it.  <br /><br />My biggest frustration is simply the fact that it can be a bit of a pain to get people to order it.  There's no easy Amazon link and they can't order it at Border's so I have a lot of friends who keep <em >meaning </em>to buy it but never get around to it.  Eh. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:25:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Cameron C.</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @PhilipClark - I've purchased comics (Both periodicals and trades) from both comixpress and indyplanet and ka-blam does a better job at printing, I think. A trade I got from comixpress actually <em >smeared</em> on the back cover (Where their ad was placed). It shipped to me with sticker-like residue on the back (For whatever reason...) and so I took my pen thing that removes that stuff (My roommates are librarians and have a bunch of cool crap from their work) and have never had any troubles removing sticker residue except with the comixpress trade, where it smeared the artwork. Haven't had any quality issues with ka-blam printed books, though. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:27:45 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm really interested in this topic, and am sort of just starting to hear about it over the last week, or so, but I guess my concerns are thus: Even people who seem happy with the results of their books don't sound like they're selling much, and with some of the POD companies print and distribution services, it doesn't matter because the creator isn't out any money up front (as opposed to a place that makes you order in small runs and distribute yourself... unless that is what you want.). So I guess my concern is, even if you're not out any money, isn't it kind of depressing to be putting a lot of hard work into a book and then just having it sit on the internet waiting to be ordered?<br /><br />So, to the creators who have had experience, how do you do your promotion? Besides telling your friends and family and local book/comic stores to get some copies, who do you go to for publicity? Even having your book on Amazon seems like it would take a pretty random series of clicks to just happen onto your book without going there specifically to order it. And if you're no Chad Michael Ward or Warren Ellis, etc., do you place an ad in Wizard (for comics) or something? Do you do readings at libraries and book stores? Do you try "viral" marketing (sorry for going buzz word on you guys, but it COULD work...)? <br /><br />I was at an SDCC panel a few years ago, and the guy who was writing Stormwatch who then got fired for lying about being in the military said that he sent copies of the book to Soldier of Fortune magazine for review to stir up interest (although whether the books were ever actually reviewed is unknown to me...), and I heard that Chynna Clugston (previously hyphen Major) had sent copies of Blue Monday around to Scooter enthusiest mags (I assume something like that exists...) because scooter lovers will buy anything that has to do with scooters...<br /><br />So what kind of promotional stuff are you POD-ers doing? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:00:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>budgie</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/5591057" target="_blank" ><img src="http://www.hypotheticals.co.uk/images/fastfiction_cover_front_verysmall.png" border="1" align="right" vspace="4" hspace="4" ></a>I've published <a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/5591057" target="_blank" ><b >The Fast Fiction Challenge</b></a> via <a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/5591057" target="_blank" ><b >lulu.com</b></a>.<br /><br />Some time ago, I issued a challenge on my blog :<blockquote ><font face="times" size="3" ><i >Reply with a title (maximum of four words) <br />about which you’d like me to write a fast<br />fiction of exactly 200 words, together with a<br />single word you want me to include in the text<br />of the tale.</i></font></blockquote>Readers of the blog, and writers I know, all responded with challenges to me.<br /><br />Three hundred stories later, one hundred and eighty of the best tales are collected in this volume.<br /><br />Stories with titles like <i >She Killed Me Twice</i>, <i >The Brain That Exploded</i>, <i >The Pachyderm Wore Pink</i> and <i >Single White Fee Male</i>. And containing, as per the challenges, words like <i >ranunculus</i>, <i >vaginate</i> and <i >carronade</i>.<br /><br />And yes, included in the book is a little (well, they're all little) story entitled <i >Doctor Silence's Last Romance</i>, using the word <i >rectal</i>. That challenge was issued by one Mr W. Ellis. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:12:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>frequentcontributor</author>
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			<![CDATA[ See, I've heard of THIS (the fast fiction thing...)! So obviously a good way to advertise is having Warren plug you. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:32:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Stephen_Mellor</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I published my book <em >The Long Sleep</em> through Lulu.com. It seems to be a pretty good site, well laid out and the final product looks nice and professional.<br /><br />It's available through my website <a href="http://www.samarcand.co.uk" >Samarcand Books</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:02:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Puff Chrissy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I published my book of short stories, EMPTY ROOMS LONELY COUNTRIES, through CreateSpace:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Empty-Lonely-Countries-Christian-Dumais/dp/1440490880/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232139703&sr=8-1" >EMPTY ROOMS LONELY COUNTRIES collects a decade's worth of short stories, wandering through two continents, five countries and multiple universes to explore love, loss and redemption in the 21st century. This collection brings together for the first time many of Christian A. Dumais’ previously published stories, including “Mad Dogs” and “Counting Nuns” from GUD Magazine, as well as some never before seen pieces. </a><br /><br /><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3430/3202899765_bc7c712615.jpg?v=0" alt="Cover" ><br /><br />If you send an email to emptyroomslonelycountries@gmail.com, I’ll send you a free PDF copy of one of the stories from EMPTY ROOMS LONELY COUNTRIES as an incentive to buy a copy. Simply title the email “SAMPLE” and your free story will be sent to you.<br /><br />Thank you. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:19:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>RichardFannon</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I think my publisher uses outlets that do POD, so I guess that this counts:  <a href="http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=54172&filters=0_0_0&manufacturers_id=386" >With A Stiff Upper Lip</a><br /><br />It's a sourcebook for setting RPGs in the United Kingdom, but I guess that non-UK writers could also find it useful.  I've just had another book (Limitless Horizons - for running pulp sci-fi games using the Spirit of the Century SRD) accepted by them so that'll be out later this year.  In line with <a href="http://www.oftwominds.com/blogdec08/media12-08.html" >this</a> Of Two Minds article, I'm going to try to persuade them to drop the prices until it becomes an impulse buy<br /><br />Promotion-wise, I've tried targeted on-line promotion and word of mouth, but without a lot of obvious success.  When Limitless Horizons comes out, I'll let the people on the Spirit of the Century forums know and if my Year of the Zombie stuff ever comes out, for example, I lurk on the Zombie Squad forums and I'll let them know about it ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:26:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>budgie</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @frequentcontributor - thanks. I suspect that the various plugs that friends and writers have done for me have given it far, far more coverage than I could possibly have obtained on my own. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:26:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Mike Aragona</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I currently have two books available at Lulu.  <a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/868406" >Heaven Can Wait</a> which is a cross between Scarface meets Ghost, and <a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/2271935" >The Mysterious Minute-Men Omnibus</a>, a superhero parody.<br /><br />I'm working on porting those (while finishing up the sequel to The Minute-Men) over to Lightning Source for access to a wider distribution network (subsidiary of Ingrams which feeds places like B&N, amazon, chapters, etc).<br /><br />Sales are brisk using word of mouth and email alerts and are enough to cover future books. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:30:31 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>stml</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://bookkake.com/books/fanny-hill" ><img border="0" src="http://bookkake.com/covers/fanny-hill-100.jpg" alt="Cover of Bookkake&#39;s Fanny Hill" ></a> <a href="http://bookkake.com/books/torture-garden" ><img border="0" src="http://bookkake.com/covers/torture-garden-100.jpg" alt="Cover of Bookkake&#39;s Torture Garden" ></a> <a href="http://bookkake.com/books/liber-amoris" ><img border="0" src="http://bookkake.com/covers/liber-amoris-100.jpg" alt="Cover of Bookkake&#39;s Liber Amoris" ></a><br /><br />Last year I started my own POD-based imprint, <strong >Bookkake</strong> (<a href="http://bookkake.com" >http://bookkake.com</a>), which launched selling out-of-copyright classic dirty books (Fanny Hill, Venus in Furs, etc.). This year I'm going to continue with linked titles in radical politics and experimental fiction.<br /><br />I used POD as a way of hacking the publishing industry. As a former editor at a small publishing house, I could and can see the way the industry is going (I write about this - POD and other issues around technology and literature - at <a href="http://booktwo.org" >http://booktwo.org</a>). POD allows me to get books out to readers while bypassing the usual over-printing, warehousing and distribution costs that are killing the industry, and I can sell profitably to a smaller market. But I don't see it as reducing quality: all my titles are newly typeset, with original covers and introductions by excellent writers. It's all supported with free ebooks in various formats, <a href="http://bookkake.com/blog/" >blogging</a> and the usual social gubbins.<br /><br />I plan to take the model I've developed (POD printing hooked up to a bunch of [mostly free and/or open source] web services) to build a bigger and more grounded publishing business over the next year, which may also include traditional printing. If you've got any questions, do get in touch. Plenty more info on <a href="http://bookkake.com" >the site</a>. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:04:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>whatever</author>
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			<![CDATA[ At the risk of sounding harsh, there should be a couple ground rules laid down for what POD is really for.  POD is _generally_ what you do if your initial print demands are going to be under 1000.  (Depending on what you're doing and the exact quote, an off-set print run will start being significantly cheaper to produce somewhere between 500 and 750 copies.)  POD's advantages are:<br /><br />1) low investment<br />2) no inventory storage<br />3) gaming the system with discounts/royalties (more on that in a second)<br /><br />The nice thing is you can usually (though not always when color is involved) set things up so you're getting a $4-6 margin where you'd normally be getting a $1-$2 royalty.  Lightning Source lets you dial down the discount offered to stores and you're still in Amazon, etc.<br /><br />Moral of the story, your successful POD project probably isn't _supposed_ to be selling over 1000 copies _unless_ you're specifically gaming the system for royalties and know how to drive traffic to where it's for sale.  If you're not on the bookstore site, just realize that you're creating a few barriers to sales: unfamiliar/possibly untrusted site, special trip, no free shipping, potentially having your book next to something weird like &quot;Natural Harvest - A Collection of Semen-Based Recipes&quot; (actual top seller at Lulu - though I suppose that's cross-sell for some books).  That's not to say it can't be done on POD-specific website, but you're making your task harder.<br /><br />Thing is, you can still make $2K - $3K off 500 copies sold if your margins and expenses tally.  <br /><br />That's more like realistic expectations for POD.  They say most PODs sell under 50 copies - friends and family.  If you can sell 100 copies, statistics say you're well ahead of the curve.  And the other thing to remember about POD is to add up your checks at the end of the year.  This isn't always something that's front-loaded.  $150/mo is $1800 at the end of the year. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:21:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>houseofmystery</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I collaborated with some mates on a horror anthology, "<a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1365&osCsid=9cd5853549d0950495e7f3d55f24d7aa" >Psychotronik Comics Presents...</a>" released through <a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/" >IndyPlanet</a>, which is what I assume to be the distribution arm of <a href="http://ka-blam.com/printing/" >Ka-Blam</a>. We've sold a few copies, mostly to friends, but it's damn hard when you're on these kind of sites, I think. We're not even indie, we're just... there. Which is fun, I guess... oh, and we've got a <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/psychotronik" >t-shirt thing</a> going on at cafepress... basically, the plan is, if you see the shirt design in the comic, you can buy the actual shirt. I think that's bloody fantastic! I hope I've been vague and mysterious enough! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 05:08:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>paladinb</author>
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			<![CDATA[ HI everyone, someone told me about this thread. I emailed to see if it was OK to join and post but in the meantime I decided to do it anyway. and I figured I'd join up and post<br /><br />My Pod book <a href="http://unseenshadows.co.uk/" >Fallen Heroes</a> came out last year via Lulu(and most online sites) and it's been quite a year. To list a few things that have happened.<br /><br />First off I managed to get the book stocked in seven branches of Waterstones( one of the largest chains of bookshops in the uk) to stock copies of the book. Waterstones ordered and paid for them there wasno Sale or Return involved which is good for me. It sold out in two of the branches, one of those being it's flagship branch in London which apparently is the Largest bookshop in Europe(and they have a very cool bar there!). They asked me to come into the store just before Christmas to sign some copies for the shelves. I also was asked to do an Official signing at the Waterstone's branch in Northampton last September. I was terrified on the day but I think it went well and I managed to sell some copies during the signing. <br /><br />In this last week I managed to get another store to agree to order some copies and they've asked me to come in for an official signing next month. Waterstones also gave me a <a href="http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=5988634" >five star review</a> for the book which has really helped other people to give the book a second look as the whole POD thing is a real stumbling book with a lot of people.<br /><br />I was approached by a comic company towards the end of Last year who want to adapt Fallen Heroes as Graphic Novel. I also got a voice actor recording an audio version of the book of which he done about of a third of so far.<br /><br />Last, but by no means least, luckiest of all was the artist (who, like me is a comic fan) I found to do the cover.<br /><br /><img src="http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o298/paladinbn/FHbookshelf1.jpg" alt="bookshelf" > ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:24:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>TinySubversions</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've been working on turning <a href="http://tinysubversions.blogspot.com/2005/10/effective-networking-in-games-industry.html" >a popular series of articles on my blog</a> into a book for a few months now. The book is about networking (meeting people) in the video game industry. It's pretty niche. I never thought about turning it into a book until two textbook publishers independently contacted me and asked me if I wanted to write a book for them based on the blog. I thought, "Wow, this is a blogger's dream, right?" So I started down the process of outlining, doing the sample chapter, etc... then I realized that it's an awfully huge timesink for someone who also runs their own business. Long story short: I am more or less a marketer by trade, and also have print layout experience, so I figure that POD is perfect for me because I can lay out the book myself and market it myself as well.<br /><br />So what I'm doing is, instead of re-writing my whole blog in textbook form, I'm just printing my blog as-is with some extra stuff to glue it all together and some bonus content. I'll be selling it for around $12. The value of the book is not necessarily the content (you can get much of it for free on my blog), but rather the fact that it will be pocket-sized and easy to carry around in context at industry events, which is where you need the advice the most. I'm going to market it through my website, and also directly to the many video game educators that already use my blog as a text in their classes. Since $12 is a pittance for textbooks, I figure if I can even get four schools to sign on, that's about 100 copies ordered every semester every year. At a $4 margin per book, that's $800/year right there. Which maybe isn't a lot, but recurring supplemental income is an excellent thing to have in one's life, no matter how small.<br /><br />I'll be using CreateSpace, which for a book my size and dimensions works out to the $4 margin on $12. As a video game developer, getting $4 on a $12 sale is absolutely out of this world, regardless of volume sold. The fact that CreateSpace charges no setup fees and does automatic Amazon listing means that I'm going with them. I looked into Lulu, but I absolutely need Amazon placement, and the cost of getting on Amazon through Lulu in both money and time was too great for me. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:17:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>United Comics</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I own <a href="http://www.unitedcomicworks.com" >United Comics</a>, a small comics publisher. Our model is producing comics POD through both Comixpress and soon through Ka-Blam, ordering a batch at a time for conventions and online sales. Some direct orders to stores willing to do that (some stores are adamantly against ordering any comic that doesn't come from the Diamond catalog, *sigh*). Our TPB are strictly printed short-run and solicited to any distributor that will order them. <br /><br />Promotion? Web (Our own website, as well as social networking sites like <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=55863092558" >facebook</a> and <a href="http://myspace.com/unitedcomics" >MySpace</a>), Postcards to comic shops, Comic Conventions (flyers and direct contact with dealers), Store Signings. Sales are OK, they tend to come in waves.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VgUU6YmLyI" >Videos</a> on YouTube promoting the projects hasn't hurt. It's all about viral. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:29:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Puff Chrissy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I really appreciate hearing about other writers' experiences with POD. This has been a great thread. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:57:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>mckenzee</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I have my <strong >Sinister Bedfellows: Anthology</strong> on Lulu, as well as <strong >Cthulhuvida</strong> and the <strong >North Carolina WebComic Coffee Clatch Anthology</strong> (Volume 2 appearing soon!)<br /><br />I also published a collection of my wife's grandmother's poetry, transcribed from the backs of hundreds of envelopes and receipts. We made an old lady cry.<br /><br /><a href="http://lulu.com/mckenzee" >my Lulu store</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:01:50 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ @PuffChrissy - I tried blurb.com, but really couldn't get my head around their software. Was recommended lulu.com and with only a couple of minor problems (mainly due to their website having problems for about 12 hours creating pdfs of uploaded files, but them not telling anyone) the process was incredibly smooth.<br /><br />Incredibly so... to the extent that I'd published something before I'd realised I'd done so (luckily, it was marked as "private" so no one could see it...)<br /><br />A couple of issues though:<br /><br />Anyone using them should be aware of this one: there's one stage where you convert whatever document you've uploaded into what they call a "print ready" document. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES click on "cancel" while it's preparing the document, no matter how long it takes (only a couple of minutes usually). ALWAYS let it complete and then do it again if you need to change anything.<br /><br />If you click on cancel while it'd preparing it, the site locks the project for anything up to 24 hours.<br /><br />Moving on... picking a sales price for your project is ease itself: you either pick how much margin you want to make OR the retail price; lulu calculates the rest for you.<br /><br />One other thing to consider though, about price. FX rates. I priced my book at £6.50, thinking that the US$ price would come in somewhere around (with current FX rates) $10, ideally a shade under.<br /><br />Nope - the US$ price was (and is) $11.21, an effective FX rate of 1.73 to the pound, at a time when the actual rate was around $1.50 to the pound... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:08:51 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/3197090013_80031e439d.jpg" alt="Art from Newpocalypse.com" ><br />This isn't a book but print on demand art prints for my work on <a href="http://www.newpocalypse.com/" >Newpocalypse.com</a>. We've been  using <a href="http://www.imagekind.com" >ImageKind</a> and found them to be excellent in service and quality. Like most PoDs, you can sell direclty off your website (our store is here: <a href="http://www.newpocalypse.com/merch/prints.htm" >http://www.newpocalypse.com/merch/prints.htm</a> ) or on their site: <a href="http://newpocalypse.imagekind.com/" >http://newpocalypse.imagekind.com/  </a> <br /><br />You have a lot of options as far as merchandise and pricing. I've ordered nearly one of everything they sell... canvas, low end paper, to high end paper and have been thrilled with the quality of the prints, the way its packaged and shipped and the time it takes to get products once the order is placed. I have NO complaints and highly recommend them.<br /><br />Also, we're looking into doing a few graphic novels so this thread is excellent! Thanks for all the info and ideas! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:27:34 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ I've done a couple of POD books and while they haven't made any money, the learning experience of taking something from initial concept to final product has been interesting.  Perhaps that's vanity publishing, but if nothing else it's got me a step towards proper publishing, as I've got something coming out later this year with a big (real) publisher.<br /><br />The first one was <a href="http://www.startsmoking.org" >How to Start Smoking</a>, which was with Diggory Press, who are one of the smaller providers based in England.  Both the finished product and the service was excellent.  One thing to note, however, is that the company is run by Christians, so they might not be amenable to publishing anything offensive.  I didn't go to them for my second POD book <a href="http://tomalexander.org/books/the-end-times-diary-2008/" >The End Times Diary</a>, as I thought it might offend them. Used Lulu, but didn't bother with an ISBN and distribution.  Quality of the product was OK, but one batch I ordered were aligned too far down the page.  Still readable, but a bit weird.<br /><br />I'll probably do some other POD projects in the future, but I'm not banking on making any money out of it. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:52:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>blu</author>
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			<![CDATA[ paladinb -- congrats on Fallen Heroes and your success with the bookstores. That's exciting and encouraging. thanks for sharing! Will definitely be checking your book out. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:25:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Tramov</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've put three books out using two different POD sources.  The first work was a small collection of Poetry published through Lulu.com.  I was disappointed with their print quality and switched over to Blurb.com for the following works.  Now I'm busy reformatting the first book so I can re-release it through Blurb.  There's no ISBN services offered through Blurb but vast difference in quality and the fact that most of my literary following stems from customers at my day job, that has yet to be an issue for me. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:32:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>louobedlam</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've made two photo books using Blurb, one which I sold myself, one which I sold through Blurb.  Other than one small shipping snafu, the process was extremely smooth both times.  <br /><br />And for that snafu, their customer service was quick to remedy the problem.  Quality has been consistently high, and I've sold about 150 book total.  Their design software was easy to use, and gave me a wide array of templates to use and play with. <br /><br />For promotion, I basically just let people know through the various websites I'm on: Flickr, Tumblr, MySpace, Facebook, and sent out a big ol' email to everyone in my address book.  <br /><br />For the book I sold through Blurb, I made $15 a book, and for the one I sold myself (where I took pre-orders, then bulk ordered from Blurb, had the books shipped to me, then shipped them to my customers myself), I made $50, though I sold considerably fewer of those, and it was a bit more trouble than I'd anticipated.  <br /><br />The set-up of Blurb ended up being far more convenient, as they handle pretty much everything, distribution-wise, and send you a check every month. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:12:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>waniyetuwi</author>
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			<![CDATA[ edit:<br /><br />You can purchase an ISBN outside of Blurb and incorporate it into the book.  That is what I meant to say. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:34:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Jason Green</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm a member of a little publishing collective called <a href="http://www.lowkeycomics.com" >Low Key Comics</a>. We've published a handful of books using POD services....<br /><br /><a href="http://store.comixpress.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=220&zenid=l7623dgeolm9vdu1qkikegh8q2" >Low Key Comics #1</a><br /><a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=124&osCsid=d67b175987984d3e50681e5e7c10c0ed" >Low Key Comics #2</a><br /><a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=217&osCsid=d67b175987984d3e50681e5e7c10c0ed" >The Last Days of El Rey #1</a><br /><a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=233&osCsid=d67b175987984d3e50681e5e7c10c0ed" >Downhill From Here</a><br /><a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=624&osCsid=d67b175987984d3e50681e5e7c10c0ed" >Everyman #1</a><br /><a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1102&osCsid=d67b175987984d3e50681e5e7c10c0ed" >Everyman #2</a><br /><a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1629&osCsid=d67b175987984d3e50681e5e7c10c0ed" >Journal Sanders Vol. 1: Kentucky Fried Sketchbook</a><br /><br />Our first experiences were with ComiXpress back in '05, and they were pretty terrible...slow to respond to e-mails, slow to accept receipt of files, and just barely got us our books in time despite well exceeding their stated lead time. We switched to Ka-Blam and I couldn't be happier...the print quality is better (if you squint you can see some very minor pixellation from both companies, but Ka-Blam's is just a hair higher quality), the turnaround time is better, and questions about an order are answered quicker. (They aren't always prompt, but certainly better than ComiXpress was in our limited experience there.) We've tried several different formats of books from them--black and white, full color, regular stapled comics, manga-sized TPBs--and they all look as professional as if they were done at a "real" printer.<br /><br />Our sales through their retail arm, IndyPlanet.com, haven't been anything to write home about, but we also haven't done much in the way of online publicity. We mostly try to push the books at conventions, and get them in our local shops. Part of our "collective" arragement is that we all live in different areas, so we ship the books out to each other and get them in local shops spread around the country that way.<br /><br />As to getting your POD comics reviewed, really all you have to do is to get it in the hands of the right people and put out a product good enough to make them want to flip through it. We've had books reviewed by Tom Spurgeon and Steven Grant without doing much more than mailing them the books and keeping our fingers crossed.<br /><br />The one biggest frustration as far as using POD is the price. The price to get printed is very reasonable, but when you take your books to a comic shop that wants to do 100% markup, you find yourself having to crank up your price just so you don't lose money. Journal Sanders, for example, is a 100-page book that costs $5.42 to print through Ka-Blam. We charge $8 on it through their website and at cons and can make a fair bit of change off each one, but to sell it at a comic shop, we have to charge $11.00 just to break even. Getting someone to drop $11 is a hell of a lot harder than getting them to drop $8. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:36:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>huge_euge</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I am a member of a group of ten writers called G10 who have collaborated on and self-published two books through CreateSpace.<br /><br />The first one is called <em ><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Artifact-Anthology-Sheri-McMurray/dp/1438288956/" >The Artifact</a></em>.  It is a scifi anthology that follows a cursed alien artifact as it passes through the hands of several doomed characters.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg6niwGIqQU" ></a><br /><br />The second book is a short story collection called <em ><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Keys-Unlocking-Universe-Sheri-McMurray/dp/144047706X/" >Keys: Unlocking the Universe</a></em>.  Each story uses the word "key" as a jumping off point with genres ranging from comedy to horror and scifi to romance.<br /><br />We all met each other at the now-defunct fan-fiction site, FanLib, where we competed against each other in officially sponsored writing contests in such properties as Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, and Harry Potter.  We are currently working on our third project. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:51:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>frequentcontributor</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Some of these books look really great. Specifically:<br /><br />stml's Bookakke titles look really amazing. I'm guessing that the titles are public domain, but those covers are really great, and the new intros add a reason to want to pick them up.<br /><br />Paladinb: That book looks really pro, and I'm interested in your seemingly tireless efforts to get your book seen in stores.<br /><br />The art in the video for United Comics looks pretty great, although who knows what the books actually look like, but sounds interesting...<br /><br />blu: Really nice art, but I'm not sure what you're selling... Prints? Seems cool, though.<br /><br />It's those kind of projects that show POD to not simply be "vanity" printing, when they look that great and when the talent is really there (although I'm judging books based on their covers, here, but sometimes that will get a book home with you, and after that the quality doesn't matter because you've already bought it.).<br /><br />My main concern is still that quite a few people here seem to be content selling a few copies to family and friends. At that point, it seems like you should just ask them to borrow some money and email them the work for free... And perhaps some of it IS vanity printing, but I would still like to hear more about people who are really trying to get a work seen by new readers through promotional tactics; not just Myspace friends. <br /><br />Anyway, it seems like the problem with family and friends buying your work is that they're doing it not because they want to read a Zombie Western novel, or whatever, but because they care about you and don't want you to slit your wrists if your book doesn't sell any copies. It's the same reason you can't ask those people for an honest critique of that same work; because they'll just tell you it's good. ...and that's fine if that's what you're doing it for... But as an actual way to make a living...<br /><br />So congrats to the POD'ers here who are doing good and are happy with their results... Keep up the good work. All of this is just so interesting. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:08:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>deshan10</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I recently helped a photographer friend design a book on Blurb. I work in offset print design usually so this was a great opportunity to see what digital print could do. The book came out much better than we expected. The photographs were off his digital cameras; RGB files, they were edited as RGB files and the print happened in RGB so the colour matching was really very good. The clarity of text though, left much to be desired. The hack for this might be to design each page in Adobe InDesign or equivalent, save as high resolution JPEGS and then import those into Blurb's software for layout. POD seems to me to be the (short term) future of print in terms of colour control, speed and quantity selection. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:05:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Rachæl Tyrell</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm watching this thread carefully, because it's a subject I've been debating for quite some time.  It seems there's a dead zone for art-stuff that Mr. Consumer wouldn't want to hang on his wall (due to content or color scheme or the cost of a frame), or doesn't particulary want on a T-shirt (due to content or color scheme or the clothing style).  The book as art object seems a great way to go about getting content out that fits this awkward inbetween.  After trying to sell prints through Cafepress and being horrofied at the product quality, I've become terribly skeptical of any printing on demand companies, and it's nice to see so many people speaking well for the photo quality of Blurb books. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:43:10 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ @Andrew - thanks and yes, we're selling art prints on a variety of papers and canvas. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:44:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>DanMcGirt</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I am in the process of using Lightning Source to relaunch my <a href="http://JasonCosmo.com" >Jason Cosmo</a> fantasy adventure series, originally published by Signet/Roc some years ago. Originals are out of print and I got a reversion of rights from the publisher. I organized my own publishing imprint, <a href="http://trovebooks.com" >Trove Books</a>, as a vehicle for doing so. Bought a block of ISBNs, registered as an LLC, etc. A bit more work, but it allows me to bypass intermediaries like Xlibris, iUniverse, Lulu, etc and work directly with Lightning Source, who does most of their POD printing anyway. (i.e. Lightning Source works with publishers, not authors, so I became a publisher.) Advantage of that is, I have full control over every aspect of the book and get to keep the lion's share of the (hypothetical, hoped for) profits. I can't speak yet to my success or failure with this approach, as I'm still putting the pieces together.  --Dan McGirt ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:54:42 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ @blu - thanks for the comments and hope you enjoy the book if you pick it up! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:58:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>paladinb</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @frequentcontributor - glad you liked the look of the book. I really tried my best to get it looking as professional.  I knew it was the only way bookshops were going to take me seriously. It's been a lot of hard work but I know if I don't put in the effort I want see the results and no one good having a good story and waiting for someone to discover it (I wasted a lot of time doing that). You have to get out there and make stuff happen. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:06:13 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ While it looks like there is some high quality stuff made POD, I would add that folks shouldn't overlook &quot;traditional&quot; printing just yet.  Many of the online printing houses are able to do POD by stringing together many jobs in one long run (depending on their equipment, of course).  But digital tech has made other solutions more feasible for short runs, as well.  Digital printing, in other words, HQ &quot;copiers&quot;, are really doing amazing things, and are so close to offset in quality that anyone but a printer can't tell the different.  I, as you might guess, work for a print shop.  For some reason in Portland, OR (where I'm at) has a ton of small shops, some of whom have invested in really good digital equipment.  Digital is great for fast turn around, and also small runs because it runs complete book sets, not having to plate each page like offset printing.  I also am a writer/self-publisher, so I've investigated this, and do my own printing ('course, I get a discount!)<br />But here's a sample job-- 300 pages, 8.5 x 11&quot;, perfect-bound (paperback style).  We do the pages in b/w digital on 60# paper, and print the covers on heavier stock on the offset press.  We produce 100-300 books for the customer, at roughly $10 per book.  I think that's a pretty good price, though I haven't really shopped around the POD market.<br />I would say this--for less than 100 copies, go online.  But if you think you could move 100 copies of your book throughout its course, check out your local print shop (a print shop, not a copy shop!).  <br />Here are some other tips:<br />Ask about digital.  Many shops are still experimenting with it, and might offer you a deal if it fills up the time slots on a quieter machine.  The iGen4 (by Xerox) is an exceptional machine, does full color almost photo quality.  There are other good machines too.  Often they don't even think of running your work on a digital press until you suggest it.<br />Ask them what the cheapest way to do things are.  At a local shop you'll talk to a salesperson, who will pitch you a price.  Of course, they want to sell you more print.  But if you tell them what you're goals are, they'll help you with economical paper choices and other cost saving things, in the bindery for instance.<br />Get your files in order, in pdf.  If they don't have to do much pre-press, that will save you.<br /><br />Service is better, proofing is better, quality is often better.  I'm not simply trying to say &quot;go local&quot; here--digital printing is the way of the future in my opinion, and now the tech is really catching up with desktop publishing.  Even for color.<br /><br />cheers and good luck<br />Adam ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:08:20 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Neil Ofsteel</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @rothstel I've looked into using some local print shops for the single issues I'm making and the bottom line is that it's cheaper for me to go with something like Ka-Blam at least for a smaller run of single issues. I don't have to pay trim or stapling costs. We'll see what it looks like when I get a test copy back though. <br />Oddly enough, Ka-Blam only accepts TIFF files whereas Comixpress accepts damn near ANY file which is probably really inconvenient for them. I would like to switch to a printer eventually but that's only if I can get this thing off the ground. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:52:34 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Puff Chrissy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I found CreateSpace to be surprisingly easy. I enjoyed the challenge of creating and designing my own cover, and the process really solidifies the book as an extension of my work, rather than the writing itself. I did my MA work on <em >liberature</em>, which is a movement that asks - among other things - the writers to be involved in the entire bookmaking process instead of handing the manuscript off to someone else. It's like writing music and then giving the sheets to someone else to play without any instructions on what kind of instruments to use. It's similar to how Mark Z. Danielewski went to the publishers to be hands-on with his book House of Leaves, because the book itself is so much more than the story, in some ways.<br /><br />Anyway, I really like how when I look at my book, I know that the whole thing is how I wanted it, warts and all. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:26:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>whatever</author>
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			<![CDATA[ If my price sheet is still accurate, a batch of 100 8.25&quot;x11&quot; 300pg books would run you $6.57@ from Lightning Source.<br /><br />Ordered as a one off from, say, Amazon the production cost would be $6.70 (no bulk discount).<br /><br />Lightning Source: learn to love it. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:00:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>warrenellis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ So long as you love doing your own distrib.<br /><br />The appeal of things like Lulu and Createspace is that they'll take care of the whole deal if you want them to.  I don't have time to stuff envelopes. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:05:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>whatever</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Ah, but Lightning Source is _owned_ by a book distributor.  When Amazon/B&amp;N/random bookstore orders, they ship it and you don't even pay shipping.  Createspace is Amazon-only.  Hands-free distribution and better reach than Lulu or Createspace. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:43:08 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Vetes</author>
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			<![CDATA[ So, I'm thinking of self-publishing a short story anthology to sell at a local book store and maybe some conventions and such. However, I have no idea what to use. Let's say I wanted to print off 50 or so of my book through POD. Obviosuly, I would like to have it be purchasable online as well. I can't find the information on lulu, createspace, lightning source, and others until after I make an account.<br /><br />Any help? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:37:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Corey Waits</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ Vetes, I can't vouch for the others, but you aren't looking hard enough on the Createspace page, 'cause it's easy to find all the relevant pricing info without needing to make an account.<br /><br />Start <a href="https://www.createspace.com/Products/BooksOnDemand.jsp" >here</a>. That's the book publishing overview page. From there you can easily get to Pricing & Royalty info, and whatever else you might need to know. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:49:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>WordWill</author>
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			<![CDATA[ We at Gameplaywright Press printed our first book, <em ><a href="http://gameplaywright.net/?page_id=101" >Things We Think About Games</a></em> (introduction by Wil Wheaton!), with Lightning Source and distribute ourselves. It's doable at this point because our operation is so small, because we're trying to maximize our per-copy profits, and because I'm willing to spend some of my TV-watching time filling envelopes in order to do that. If we'd known how many copies we were going to sell, we might have gone in for a distribution package. We're in our fourth printing since the book came out in August, which is much better than we expected. (These are tiny print runs made possible because they're POD.)<br /><br />We sell copies from our site via PayPal, but we're doing the bulk of our business through <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Things-We-Think-About-Games/dp/0981884008/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218829723&sr=8-1" >Amazon</a> and <a href="http://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16704&cat=0&page=1" >Indie Press Revolution</a>. We had Lightning Source send one of our print runs straight out to IPR, which is essentially distribution. <br /><br />Note also that Amazon isn't discounting our price at all, which helps us with the per-copy profits as we intended, but probably isn't helping us sell more copies. We're still refining our goals and our methods as we learn.<br /><br />We chose Lightning Source based mostly on production costs — we knew we wanted a stack of books to toss into retail channels and have at the summer conventions, and the cost to have a stack of them on hand through Lulu was too much for us. <br /><br />That said, I had a good relationship with Lulu when I was building the POD projects for <a href="http://white-wolf.com/sas/" >White Wolf's Alternative Publishing projects</a> and would recommend them if you want POD-style order fulfillment. The Lulu reps were passionate and helpful in lots of good ways, and we printed some special POD editions of <em >Requiem for Rome</em> as promos for conventions and writers. White Wolf's offered a lot more POD titles since then.<br /><br />We're working on our next two titles now and, unless something changes soon, we'll be printing under the same model if only because it worked for us once. I'm eager to try out some other POD projects, though, and am loving the hell out of this thread. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:58:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Widgett</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Okay, here's the tale.  I finished my novel, <i >Mystics on the Road to Vanishing Point</i>, a while back.  Back before POD we have now, back before much of anything.  Let's just say that I explored self-publishing (pre-POD) after I became convinced I was wasting my time trying to get my book published by a traditional publisher.  And self-publishing in that way didn't seem to work for me for two reasons: overhead costs (I was in college) and lack of space to become a warehouse.  To get enough books to bring the price point down, I could basically sleep on stacks of my books for God knows how long in my small apartment.  So I waited.  And when POD became viable, I leapt on it.  This was...2003.  I did mine through <a href="http://www.threemoonsmedia.com" >Three Moons Media</a>, a front end to Booksurge and run by some people who were attached to the hosting company I used at the time.  The people there were very easy to talk to, correspond with, revise with, and they gave me what I wanted.  I designed my own covers and basically just handed them the text and the artwork and they assembled it.  It was worth the upfront cost (which I think was $200 at the time...not sure what it is now) because just like Warren doesn't want to stuff envelopes, I don't want to learn Quark or other programs.  I already know more programs than I want to at this point anyway.  So it was worth it to me to save myself that headache.<br /><br />My book got in print, I sold some copies, and the copies continue to sell at a steady trickle.  I've since published a collection of short stories as well using the same means, <i >Magnificent Desolation</i>.<br /><br />My first novel is available <a href="http://tinyurl.com/mysticsontheroad" >here from Amazon</a> or here as <a href="http://www.onetusk.com/mystics.pdf" >a free downloadable PDF</a>.  It's a straight up fiction coming of age story.  I tell people I got the normal book out of my system first.  And it was just important that I prove to myself I could write a novel.<br /><br />My short story collection is available <a href="http://tinyurl.com/mag-deso" >here on Amazon</a> or here as <a href="http://www.onetusk.com/mystics.pdf" >a free downloadable PDF</a>.  It's less normal.<br /><br />If you download a freebie, all I ask in return is you tell me what you thought of it.  widgett at need coffee dot com.<br /><br />This year I plan to publish a collection of my poetry--two chapbooks I self-published that I sold out of and a third book's worth of unreleased material--and also the first two "seasons" of my Something Else short fiction pieces as one volume.  <a href="http://www.onetusk.com/somethingelse/" >Something Else</a> is where I started writing on my phone wherever I could based on pics I took with my phone's camera--inspired by Warren's <em >Available Light</em>...which if you haven't read, I urge you to do so.  So that's sixty-two finished short stories, of which the first two "seasons" make up forty-eight.  I started thinking of them as episodes of the anthology television series I'll never get to make.  So, hence the seasons.<br /><br />One last thing and I promise to go away.  I know there's been some concern about POD and what good it is.  Why should I if I'm not going to sell more than just to family and friends...and the like.  Here's my thing: the major problem here is that everybody has differing definitions of "success."  To me, success was opening the box and seeing a bunch of copies of my book in print.  I cannot tell you how unbelievably badass that moment was.  And it was just as badass for my second book.  I don't know how you guys reacted to that moment, but I don't see how that can ever get old.  Maybe I'm just a total attention whore and like seeing my name in print.  Anyway, I give more copies away of them than I should because I want to be read.  That's what I do this for.  If your idea of success is being able to get your friends and family to buy your book, then that's cool for you.  If your idea of success is to be the next Insert Famous Author Name Here, for example, then POD is not some sort of magic bullet that will make that happen.  You'll still have to bust your ass to market and sell and all of that.  The main benefit is you get to start now rather than wait for a publisher to tell you when you can.<br /><br />It makes me happy as hell to see so many people on this thread getting in print and using POD for so many different types of books.  And I urge anybody reading this: stop waiting for permission from some traditional publisher to open a box of your own books.  I don't care what service you use, but if you've got something you want people to read and you believe it's worth being read, then just use something.  <br /><br />Okay, rant-thing ends.  Thanks for the thread, Warren. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:49:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Stew Wilson</author>
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			<![CDATA[ We've been using Lulu for <a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/1137037" >&AElig;ternal Legends</a> (my first creator-owned RPG!) but that's not too unusual given that it's a roleplaying game. We point people to our Lulu page, or they can buy from Indie Press Revolution, or Lulu do distribution direct to game stores that order from us. Given that there's two people in total involved in the process, both of whom have day jobs, it abstracts the whole printing/warehousing/distribution chain nicely. We also use Lulu to provide copies to <a href="http://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16369&cat=3&page=1" >Indie Press Revolution</a>, who act as a distributor. Which is damn handy, really.<br /><br />The market for small-press pen'n'paper RPGs is tiny. <em >Tiny.</em> As in, the hundreds. Publishers know that and savvy purchasers know that. So the whole segment has jumped at the chance to do POD, mostly through Lulu. If it weren't for POD, we'd never get to publish physical product; gamers in general have embraced the PDF e-book in ways that other segments haven't simply because for the longest time it was the only way to get small-press stuff. Now a lot of stuff is being offered POD and that's in response to customer demand: people said "I'd be willing to pay the price of a book if this was actually a book, but the PDF price is too high." Publishers thus flocked to Lulu and the like so they could offer books. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:39:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>mojojoseph</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've seen a couple of mentions of <a href="http://ka-blam.com/printing/" >Ka-Blam.com</a>, which is the site we were considering publishing Zombie Death Squad through. Can anyone tell me if it gets you n ISBN as well? As then we can see about getting the book stocked at stores.<br /><br />The whole POD thing is something I've just started looking into myself, as a way to maybe bring in some much needed money. I'm currently in the process of putting together and then deciding if I'll go ahead with it, a poetry book and a book of short stories. The comic is something I'm doing as part of a group, so that will definately happen. Ka-Blam seems to be the best site we've come across so far, and we know that <a href="http://www.monkeyswithmachineguns.com/" >Monkeys With Machineguns </a>use them, so we kinda automatically assumed we will too. But if anyone knows a POD site that does comics that they think is better (and more importantly, cost effective), gives a shout like. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:35:42 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ @ mojojoseph: If you're doing a color floppy, you're probably best off with Ka-Blam.  Seems to be consensus<br /><br />@widgett: One of the interesting things about POD that really scares traditional publishing houses is that if the author has a certain amount of resources, it can be very hard to differentiate between &quot;traditionally published&quot; and &quot;independent author.&quot;  To be sure, there's an economy of scale for book store release, but in e-commerce/mail order world, more and more authors are getting shifted out of the stores.  (Wish I had the link from the Fall about how chain bookstores can and can't choose their stock on a store by store level.)  The e-Reader Device Wars are in their early stages, and those have the potential to further blur the lines in a few years, should something take off.  Their are different service levels to the various POD offerings and if somebody's only interested in being in print and doing a friends &amp; family run, Lightning Source isn't the way to go.  Lulu and CreateSpace (which used to be BookSurge, IIRC) fill the one-off, low circulation run nicely with much less set-up costs. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:08:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>muse hick</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.lulu.com/psgri2003" >me at lulu</a><br /><a href="http://www.lulu.com/whatsyourtheory" >my wife at lulu</a><br /><a href="http://www.indiebookshelf.com" >www.indiebookshelf.com</a> my wife's site for independently published authors / musicians / comic creators ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:22:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Cinexploits</author>
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			<![CDATA[ As an adjunct to the P-O-D discussion, I'd like to ask folks if they are also formatting files for sale at Amazon's Kindle. <br /><br />I am setting up my own publishing house using Createspace and have signed deals with a known author whose book series has been out of print. Sorry for the lack of detail, but we haven't issued the press release yet.<br /><br />We are resetting all the text, adding new content (interviews, pics, etc...) for the print versions and keeping the Kindle versions as clean as possible. Kindle is for the "gotta have it now" types and the print versions (2 novels per volume with extras) is for the collector types.  Both will be priced accordingly and are being designed to appeal to those comic / pulp / series paperback fans out there. It all came about when I couldn't find some paperbacks from my youth. Checking around I figured I'd have to spend way too much on EBay to get the stuff I wanted. That seemed wrong - especially since the authors weren't making any more money on these titles either. <br /><br />Bookakke - love the company name, your aesthetic, and your publishing model. You make an excellent looking product. We aim to follow a similar path. <br />Thanks for the inspiration. <br /><br />The endgame (beyond making money at it) is to embrace the pulp publishing model of "low cost, high volume, high concept" via the web. We will be using every free web tool out there to drive sales and publicity for our books and other media (yes, eventually we will be handling films, web serials and so forth). <br />Thankfully I can do all that from my laptop. <br /><br />I can say that <a href="http://namtab.com" >this guy</a> is doing the covers for our first series of books - a full year's worth of content. I have other artists and graphic designers working their magic for a piece of the pulpy pie on other books for which we have deals. Again, sorry for the lack of info. <br /><br />So, getting back to my original thought: What do the Podders here think of Kindle? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:13:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>frequentcontributor</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Cinexploints: I think that a few posters earlier in the discussion mentioned also having Kindle editions, but this again comes down to why you would be PODing in the first place: Because you want to put a physical product in people's hands. It does seem that some of the people here are offering free downloadable versions of their wares with the option to buy a POD version (I suppose to stir up interest...). Just keep in mind that a book can be given to anyone, but not everybody has a Kindle machine... but if it's not costing you anything more to do it, I can't see the harm.<br /><br />Also, I love your concept of trying to use the pulp publishing model. I feel like comics could do well to try and go back to those roots; having a fast and cheap and easily distributable, low-cost product up front, with nicer "deluxe" trades to follow. Could work for some titles, and Warren and Matt Fraction certainly have started an interesting idea with Fell and Casanova...<br /><br />Finally, love that artist that you got for the covers. Can't wait to see what product you put out. Hopefully when you get everything finalized, you'll post here again with an update. <br /><br />(And for my money, I'd love to see Fredrick Pohl's books from the 70's and 80's get put back into print. They're great, and really still quite topical. It's easy to find TONS of his old stuff at used bookstores, but at Borders or Barnes & Noble? Forget it...) ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:04:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Cinexploits</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Thanks. <br /><br />Yes, Rob Kelly rocks. He gets what we're trying to do and brings his best to the table. I have a couple of other artists and writers who I can't announce yet, and who are very pulpy in their own way. <br /><br />Our model has been to always use the free services and devices at hand instead of paying for services out of pocket. It follows our pulp model which will eventually (<em >fingers crossed</em>) grow into <em >original series books</em> like the ones that inspired us in the first place and who we are republishing. <br />We want to become the "Hard Case Crime" of horror/scifi/pulp adventure. <br /><br />You can't have enough good cheap fiction! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:51:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>PatrickBrown</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've attempted to go through POD printers for the print collections of my webcomic, and my experience hasn't been terribly encouraging. I tried Lulu first, and the books do look great, but they're expensive, and because they're in America and I'm in Northern Ireland, the postage is pretty steep. Added to that they tried to change the terms of the deal unilaterally after the proof stage, which I thought was a bit shoddy. I then tried Ka-Blam, and they were a bit cheaper, but were less flexible in terms of page size, and were very bad at replying to my enquiries. In the end I went to a UK-based digital printer a friend recommended who, while not strictly POD, could do short runs at prices affordable enough that I can go through small press distros that take 50% of the cover price and still make a small profit. Early days yet, and I'm only publishing on a very small scale at the moment, but I'm hoping to step it up when I have a better idea what I'm doing. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:49:40 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ So as some of you know I mentioned in my initial post that several branches of Waterstones have agreed to stock copies of my Pod book <a href="http://unseenshadows.co.uk/" >Fallen Heroes</a>. Anyway for those of you in the uk my signing is due to take place in the Milton Keynes branch of Waterstones  between 11-1 on sat 28th Feb!<br /><br />So anyway I'm excited about that news and then I check my availability today and I discover that another Waterstone's over in Banbury now has copies in stock!(I'm slowly making my way through every single waterstones in the country to try and get them to stock the book)<br /><br />So when Milton Keynes get there copies it will take the grand total to 8 branches of Waterstone's now stocking the book! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:33:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>RobSpalding</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I put out a short story collection through Lulu.<br />The PDF version is free, so you can have a read of it and then buy the printed one if you like it enough.<br /><br />I'm also putting together some novellas that all link together, looking to do that by the end of the year, with each one costing about £2.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/1261693" >My short story collection</a><br /><a href="http://ookami.co.uk/html/lunatics_and_fools.html" >A review of the collection</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:49:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Puff Chrissy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm getting ready to approach the bookstores in my area to stock my book (I have a case of books to distribute by hand). I've read up on some different ways of doing this, but I was curious to how some of you approached it. Any words of advice? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:33:36 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ @ Puff Chrissy I couple of thing I did<br /><br />I did my own press release to go with the book and attached it to my initial email. If you can find a hook for the book be it similar book or movies so they know straight off how they can market is something I did. I was lucky last year as I was able to use the new Indiana Jones movie to hang it off which worked really well.  I used used the dresden file book and the heroes TV show. I also attached an image of the cover as I knew it was pretty striking so I hoped that would help (which it did). I also had an eye catching title for the email (I thought newspaper headline) so they wouldn't just delete it without opening it. I think I had something like "Indiana Jones meets Heroes in new novel Fallen Heroes by Barry Nugent'  I know it sounds cheesy but it worked.<br /><br />Once I got it into one store I change my covering letter and press release to cover my success and I change each subsequent press release and email.<br /><br />Best of luck and I hope some of that rambling helps. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:54:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Widgett</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @Puff:  What paladinb said and also if you're from the area, make sure you play up the local authors angle.  The big chains usually have local author sections, the smaller independent stores as well.  Depending on how friendly they are, you might ask about doing a reading or signing.  Once you've got the book in there, make sure you let people know it's there as well, using your e-mail distribution list or what have you.  Good luck. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:16:05 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Puff Chrissy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Thanks for the advice. Some of the short stories are set in the city I'm living in (Wroclaw, Poland), so I think that will help as a hook. However, as an American living here, I'm limited by the bookstores that carry English books. Still, I plan on working my ass off to make it happen. Thanks again, this thread has been great. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:27:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Dark Windows</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I have written a brilliant novel which transcends genres and scares publishers so - naturally - it is available POD. It's available on Amazon etc. - the only problem is that it's too expensive. Please have a look at my website that explains more. I used Lulu.com and found it fine until the prices went through the roof following the recent financial situation - nuff said. If you'd like to read it and can't afford $11.95 - contact me and I'll send you a pdf. I have had quite a bit of interest from around the globe so I would recommend POD if you struggle to find a publisher.<br /><br />The greatest conspiracy of the 20th Century is revealed by chance. The discovery of a devastating method of mind control leads to a desperate race through the history of cinema. A portrait of a disintegrating mind, confusing reality with cinema as the world cracks apart.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.darkwindows.co.uk" >DARK WINDOWS or the Death of Godard by Neil Coombs</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:56:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>frequentcontributor</author>
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			<![CDATA[ The price doesn't seem <em >terribly</em> unreasonable, but it seems like a bit of a maze to get to a page that actually tells you the synopsis of the book. Up until that point, everything sounded exceptionally vague and self-important...<br /><br />Your websites are quite pretty, though, and despite your oddly uncredited and basically meaningless quotes ("...an important work."?  What the fuck does that mean?), the story sounds like it could be interesting, especially to film historians (for those who didn't go find what the book was about, it seems like a Dan Brown thriller with foreign movie history instead of biblical history to provide the background info of the mystery.).<br /><br />All in all, the Google Books preview is a nice way to generate interest, even though it was somewhat hidden amid all the other links on your site. Also, just the first chapter would be enough; there seems to be much of the book on there, but with the Google-norm random pages missing. Finally, for some odd reason found myself wishing that Douglas Adams had written another (finished) Dirk Gently novel...<br /><br />Oh, and the use of the "play" and "pause" buttons, etc., between paragraphs is really quite brilliant. Perhaps will peruse the book further, later. But I would say that the VCR buttons are a real attention-getter, and if I go back it will most likely be because of those. If I sound at all like I'm giving you a disinterested review, it is because while I enjoy films quite a bit and have HEARD of Godard, I don't think I've ever seen anything by him, and therefore feel excluded from the get-go by the very title of the book! Just me, though... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:42:53 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Dark Windows</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Thanks for the interest I'm pleased that you had a look (sorry it's taken me so long to respond) - I take on board your points which <em >are</em> interesting and I'm glad you like the buttons between paragraphs - it's only a minor element but it sort of fitted the content. I hope the title doesn't put too many people off and you're right about the uncredited quotes on the website (they <em >are</em> pretty meaningless but I guess that the publishing industry is full of rent-a-quotes and I'm just doing likewise without paying - the quotes come from customer's feedback e-mails and I didn't feel I could use their names to any effect).<br /><br />The Google Book preview is generated through Lulu and I don't get any control over the amount of content displayed. But in the final analysis, it's my first novel and you've got to start somewhere (maybe I should have left it sitting on my hard drive). I could be really self-critical here but I'm trying to feign some sort of literary confidence based on the mostly positive feedback that I've had to date from readers.<br /><br />The problem with the Lulu pricing is that they add a hefty charge for postage and for some reason and the unit cost rises to £14.95 if I buy more than one for myself. The USA price has recently risen from $11.95 to $25.95 - again I'm not sure why but I assume that it's some sort of adjustment due to costs/exchange rate etc. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:40:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Puff Chrissy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm bringing this thread back for two reasons. One, I'm now offering my book <em ><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Empty-Lonely-Countries-Christian-Dumais/dp/1440490880" >Empty Rooms Lonely Countries</a></em> in PDF for $5.00. You'll save $10 off the cover price, PLUS, there are 5 more stories not included in the print version. <a href="http://www.cadumais.com" >Just go to my website</a> and find the PayPal button at the very bottom.<br /><br />Also secondly, how about the rest of you, POD writers? How did you all do with your books since February? Any new books to share? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:02:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>cussedness</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm a small indie publisher using POD.  We use Lightning Source.  The initial set up fee can be a bit pricey for some ($105 altogether), but the per copy cost comes way down compared to other places (like lulu), the print versions are good quality, and the distribution works well for us. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:08:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>.human.</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I used blurb for a book that went public yesterday.  This is the 3rd time ive used blurb and probably the last, theyre just too expensive and gouge shipping like madmen.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/880880" >heres the book.</a><br /><br /><br />ill be trying magcloud to put together a fun coloring book thing in the near future though.<br /><br />neat. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:03:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Puff Chrissy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I know what you mean about shipping. I'm an American writer in Poland, so it kills me to ship a case of my books here. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:50:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Aurora Borealis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Well, I am finally offering my last year's webcomic in a print edition.<br /><br /><img src="http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r112/noisefetish/dinkrakataucolorfullcoverpr.jpg" alt="din krakatau cover" ><br /><br /><strong >Amen City Chronicles: Din Krakatau</strong> is a manga/digest sized trade, 136 pages, full color... and I know it's kinda pricey, but that's the cost of color POD trades.<br /><br />It can be purchased from <a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2770" >Indyplanet</a>, or, if you're not certain, you can read the entire thing for free over at <a href="http://www.drunkduck.com/Din_Krakatau/" >DrunkDuck</a><br /><br />I know that the art on early pages isn't great, but the story is entertaining, and any sales made from this book will help me finish my b&w sketchbook AND my future comics, all of which will be drawn MUCH better.<br /><br /><strong >Future stuff</strong> will look something more like this, most likely:<br /><img src="http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r112/noisefetish/sketchbookx16-cursed-blade.jpg" alt="cursed blade" > ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:00:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>KPatrickGlover</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Haven't used POD yet, but we're planning on releasing 36 page floppies to promote the new web comic at shows and such, so we're looking around. Who does the best floppies? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:13:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>warrenellis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://bit.ly/2rJOE7" >I am now a person who PODs.</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:56:45 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Will Couper</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've had a POD book out for ages.  I recently updated it with new content and a nifty new cover by Mo Ali.<br /><br />It's here: <a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/794103" >Cutting Chills</a><br /><br /><br />Will ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:18:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>chris g</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Oh, X-mas will be hurr before you know it! Might want to get this for the kiddies! Fun for the whole family, promise!!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2580&osCsid=f03ddfa35aac3b50264b78c3d898089d" >$10 from IndyPlanet.com</a><br /><br />Collects Chapters 1-3 of "Team Mummy" which <a href="http://teammummy.com" >you can enjoy here for FREE</a>. But yeah, the physical tome is very pretty. Plz buy ^_^<br /><br />Cover<br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/24766919@N07/3521672204/" title="Team Mummy Cover by chris g/team mummy, on Flickr" ><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3560/3521672204_c875cabcfe.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="Team Mummy Cover" ></a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:18:42 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>rickiep00h</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'll attest to the awesomeness of Team Mummy in meatspace form. Please, people, buy it so I can convince him that Vol. 2 is a good idea. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:20:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>TheDeeMan</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I publish a trade of my Glyph Comic Award nominated (I love saying that. LOL!) webcomic  <a href="http://www.webcomicsnation.com/moniquem/gaak/series.php" >G.A.A.K: Groovy Ass Alien Kreatures</a> thru Lulu. I love Lulu. It's cheaper then most other PODs. And if you get their distribution package you can get your books into online retailers like Amazon, Barnes&Noble, etc, which I did with <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1411616669" >G.A.A.K.</a><br /><br />Dee <br /><br />....................................................<br /><a href="http://www.webcomicsnation.com/moniquem/continentals/series.php" >THE CONTINENTALS.</a> Murder, mystery, intrigue, adventure--And steampunk! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:35:30 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>TF</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I was looking at this thread with curiosity and then it hit me that I POD myself.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Face-Human-Error-CD-Demand/dp/B002LAS8R4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1257420616&sr=8-2" >The Face of Human Error CD on demand via Amazon</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:51:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>RobSpalding</author>
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			<![CDATA[ As an update for me, I was randomly selected by Lulu and now you can buy my book via Amazon.com <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Lunatics-Fools-Robert-Spalding/dp/B002ACXU1W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257432519&sr=8-1" >here</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:09:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>WordWill</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Today's the "official release date" for the chapbook based on <a href="http://wordstudio.tumblr.com/tagged/haiku" >my Haiku Year project</a>, in which I wrote a haiku a day for a year. I made it a little over three months, in the end. As I prepare to try the project again, I’ve collected 105 poems into this little chapbook, along with a few short articles about the project. This little book, also called <em >Haiku Year</em>, collects every poem from the project, including a few that were never posted online, and a few translating my video haiku back into text. I offer it here for you to <strong >(a)</strong> buy, as a little pocket-sized paperback POD book, or <strong >(b)</strong> to download for free as a PDF. <a href="http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/haiku-year/7894321" >Do either of those things at Lulu.</a><br /><br /><img src="http://www.wordstudio.net/pictures/haikuyear.png" alt="Haiku Year cover" ><br /><br />If you buy the book, I get $2 and I'll see that you bought it. If you download the book, I'll have no way of knowing that you did. So, if you do, <a href="http://wordstudio.net/thegist/?p=1626" >please leave a comment on this post at my blog</a>, letting me know that you chose to download it and, maybe, read some of it. This is an experiment, after all, to see how many people might actually choose to get their hands on it (and what percentage of those people choose to pay for it in some way). So, if you do, I'd appreciate you raising your hand so I can count you as a download. The goal isn't so much to make a buck on this, but to just get these words out there in front of people — so please do download it if you like.<br /><br />Thanks for your time. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:24:21 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Rachæl Tyrell</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I just realised I'd never posted here.  My book wasn't done when this thread started, methinks.  So, here's my book: <br /><br /><center ><a href="http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/723856" >"DAD SOLD CRACK HERE: Photographs of New York City" </a></center><br /><blockquote >Stray cats, broken shopfronts, the beauty of decay, unexpected color in a crumbling land of gray... the still and lonesome corners of a broken world.<br /><br />This book has ended up rather Brooklyn-centric; most of the pictures were taken during the walks I'd take from Kings County Hospital, through Crown Heights, to my apartment in Bedford Stuyvesant. However, I did not entirely neglect all other areas of Brooklyn, and even Manhattan and Queens make some minor appearances.<br /><br />I've chosen to only use photographs taken with my old, outdated, 5 megapixel brick of a camera that I once took with me everywhere. Because it's not about what you've got, but how you use it that matters.</blockquote><br /><br />(There's a preview of the first 15 pages at the link, of course) ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:18:58 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Dreamline</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I posted on this link a while back about my upcoming novel.  Well, that novel is no longer upcoming, and is in fact present.  So, I wanted to update that and shill my work like the money-hungry little cash-grubber that I am.<br /><br />THE SEVEN is a YA superhero origins story about genetically modified teenagers who rebel against the faction that created them.  Think RUNAWAYS meet MAXIMUM RIDE, but not as weak as MAXIMUM RIDE.  Early reviews have been fantastic.  I am currently reshopping the novel to see if I can get it published for real in order to get a bigger possible audience.<br /><br />Check it out on my really weak website:  www.seanpatricklittle.com<br /><br />Thanks. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:01:06 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>meaninglessnoise</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Having read (and thoroughly enjoyed) <em >Shivering Sands</em>, I decided to release a POD collection; so I immediately set off re-examining fiction I've already created and working on some new pieces.<br />My goal is first pressing by XMas 2010. I'll likely use Lulu, because I really liked the quality of '<em >Sands</em>. It'll start as a friends-and-family release, just for fun, and then I'll examine everything again and see if I'm comfortable with a real/more official/I'd like to make money style release.<br />This thread is actually really encouraging.<br /> So, no, I don't POD yet, but I will. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:15:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Emperor</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I have articles in <a href="http://darklore.dailygrail.com/" >Darklore</a> (freebies to download from the site if anyone is interested), its published through <a href="http://www.lightningsource.com/" >Lightning Source</a> and it gives a better cut to the authors so it does make it worthwhile, plus they have the <a href="http://www.lightningsource.com/ebm.aspx" >Espresso Book Machines</a> which provide in-store POD which is surely The Future - ordering some obscure tome before leaving the house and picking it up in the bookshop as you wander past, worth killing a tree for. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 12:12:10 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>spinnerin</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've been feeling inspired by various papernet-ish projects (especially the SXSW Fieldnotes) so I made my own: a <a href="http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/summer-fieldbook-2010/10666755" >Summer Fieldbook</a> with daily journal pages, blank notebook space, coloring pages, a map of Forest Park (a giant hiking area inside Portland city limits), plus a weekly events planning page (some Portland-area things listed, but it's mostly blank space to write in your own). This was a lot of fun to put together, so I'm hoping to turn it into a seasonal project. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 19:46:24 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>SilentObjector</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Not me specifically, but an urban comrade of mine just POD'd out a book from Lulu by the title of In Lands Unseen. You can find it under his (completely awful) pseudonym, S.B. Sorajo. I believe he's gotten Amazon to carry it. I haven't read it yet, but it's gotten favorable reviews from mutual friends. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 20:25:19 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>steevo</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I POD.  My post-zombocalypse lit mag, <a href="http://magcloud.com/browse/Issue/80463" >LIfe After Death</a>, just had the second volume released today. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 09:55:24 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>krakatoakatie</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I have two photo books on blurb. If you like the preview, please please please consider buying one as I was robbed yesterday and all my camera equipment was stolen.<br /><br /><a style="padding:0px; margin:0px; border:0px;" href="http://www.blurb.com/user/ktcowden?utm_source=badge&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=120x50_check" ><img style="padding:0px; margin:0px; border:0px;" src="http://www.blurb.com/images/badge/badge_120x50_check.png" alt="Check out my books" title="Check out my books" ></a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 13:10:45 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>timkress</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I have a book for kids, <a href="https://www.createspace.com/3432553" >The Wurly Burly Boy Has a Boring Day</a>. You can view the book on this video I made <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mx7cQUsQJg" >here</a>. Please check it out. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 13:12:22 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Oh, and my site is <a href="http://www.timkressfiction.com/" >timkressfiction.com</a>. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 07:55:24 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Winterman</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I have a collection of (mostly) previously published short stories called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1438295251?tag=pocfulofmum-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=1438295251&adid=1EDWBTZ9997ZHJJR62X1&" >DREAMNASIUM</a> that seems to be doing okay.<br /><br /><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4581609744_bcf8c40f70.jpg" alt="front cover" ><br /><br />I'm a genre guy so you're getting variations on the fantasy, horror, science fiction and hardboiled subsets filtered through my little brain. To save cash I did all the design work, etc. myself.<br /><br />There's also a bonus story in the dead tree version that is absent from the Kindle version (though the latter is massively cheaper).<br /><br />You can find all my stuff, traditional, POD and ebook at <a href="http://wintermanproject.blogspot.com/" >THE WINTERMAN PROJECT</a>.<br /><br />Thanks for the use of the the hall, Mr. Ellis. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 06:03:41 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Jamie Coville</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've a question for those that have done POD. <br /><br />I'm assuming you all had to design your own book? <br /><br />I've got a comic history website with a lot of content, I'm thinking of PODing it because I figure some people would rather read it in book format then spend an hour or so scrolling and clicking.<br /><br />Only thing that's stopping me is thinking about how much work has to go into the design of the book. I imagine all the images of comic covers and creators must be high res and converted to CMYK in order to print right. <br /><br />And I'm wondering if all this could be done in Open Office or if I'd have to get another program. My brother worked in print like 15 years ago and MS Word was NOT used, there were special, little known programs that were needed preparing it for print. Is this the way it is now? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 11:18:50 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ I did the interior design in InDesign and the cover in Photoshop for both of the projects I've printed through Lulu, but they have helpers and templates for working with software like Word too. All of the digital printing services I've worked with want PDFs, so if you have software that can create a pdf, you're set to go. 300dpi is sufficient according to Lulu's guidelines. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 20:03:52 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Thanks. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 07:03:22 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Winterman</author>
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			<![CDATA[ If Open Office is anything like MS Word, you should be able to use it to do everything relating to a layout. The cover of my book was done in PS 3, of course, but the whole of the rest was done in Word. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 02:45:22 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Vaehling</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I couldn't get Open Office to really work as a layout program, but I've just finished layouting a book with <a href="http://www.scribus.net/" >Scribus</a>, an OS alternative to InDesign and the likes. Took me some time to get into the work flow, but so did InDesign. So, if you're looking for a free program, you may want to look it up. Some printers frown upon it, though.<br /><br />Oh, and while the project wasn't POD as much as digital print, I've adapted it into a hardcover version that will be strictly POD. Also, I'll upload it to Lulu as well. (Just to get back on topic.) (No link here, it's in German anyway.) ]]>
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