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    • CommentAuthorCulebra
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
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    They may be tough and mighty, but dammit, demigods are not gods, and so sooner or later there will be a chance for puny humanity to strike back at the presumptuous metahumans. The question is, how?

    My theory is that they can read minds, but sensing machinery is different. Use some sort of robotic device that is not as easily detected. Then again, droid armies crumble before Jedis, so that may not be the best tactic.

    Mindwaves are exotic, but perhaps exist somewhere on EM spectrum. But even magic and mysticism have to follow some kind of quantifiable laws. They must still depend on some method of manipulating energy. Energy, no matter what its origins, has predictable properties. Possible safeguards: headsets that broadcast a wide band of white noise to protect against mind control. Video eyegoggles that depict virtually realtime footage, perhaps a nanosecond out of sync, to prevent psionic possession-type attacks. Possible weaponry: heavy dosing area with microwaves or high-frequency transmissions to disorient and confuse psi. A momentary lapse of control in a Freakangel may save the life of an operative.

    Biological or chemical weapons' effects unknown. Psis may possess heightened physiology, immune to conventional unconventional attacks. Tear gas, tranquilizers, likely ineffective.

    The best solution would probably be to nuke them. Wonder if there are any remnant military bases beyond the British Isles? The possibility of surviving nuclear missile submarines out of dock is inevitable. Saturated atomic bombing should be enough to terminate even Freaks'. Further experimentation needed.
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      CommentAuthorlordmitz
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     (4817.2)
    i think the bigger question here is: could superman beat the hulk?

    wait... why do you want to hurt the freakangels? what did they do to you?
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     (4817.3)
    Hurm. Jack was dummyed by very lo-tech indeed - a bonk on the head.

    Is it Karl who wears a tin-foil beanie to block the others? Lo-tech.

    Nukes? Really? Good luck with that. That just might piss them off. They destroyed the fucking world, do you think they said "Leave the nukes. They'll never be a problem again." I think not, sir. Or madam.

    Microwaves? Powered by what - steam? No, mate. No.

    I'm thinking they can't run, talk, chew buble-gum and read minds at the same time. That's only a guess, though. Attacking them is a suicide mission. Any "operatives" will be well aware of this going in. (Maybe not ALL of them - give the FA's a mouse to play with while you prepare The Trap.)

    They need a watchtower. They're not constantly reading everyone's mind. You could sneak right up and ... bam! If you were clever. And lo-tech. And lucky.
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    If tin foil works, then a proper Faraday cage would be better. Either trap a FA in it or put a weapon inside it.
    Also, bioweapons?
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     (4817.5)
    @ Cat Vincent - Bioweapons? Such as? A bucket of shit is a bioweapon and is probably much more available, not to say more effective than, oh, say, regurgitants or anthrax or something.

    I'd think twice before I confronted, say, Kait or KK with a bucket of shit.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     (4817.6)
    It appears what you need to be able to do is get the drop on them, then they're just as mortal as anyone else. Of course, your first blow better kill them, cause you won't be getting any second chances.
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    @mister hex:
    Well, I was going more for Ebola, genetically targetted to whatever mutation gave them their powers... but you know, a F-cage concealed pit with shit-covered pungee stakes wouldn't be a bad idea.
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      CommentAuthorindysleaze
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     (4817.8)
    Maybe show them - well, except Sirkka - the contents of the I Did Not Need To See That image thread?
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    i think the bigger question here is: could superman beat the hulk?

    The answer to that varies. When did you lose your virginity? No? Really? And you're how old? Ah. Well then, the answer is Hulk.

    As to the question, seems that even the Freakangels themselves are still surprised at what they can and cannot do, as in last weeks teleportation. The notion of post-humans still exploring their upper limits, and all the clumsiness can contain. Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman's runs on "Miracleman" come to mind.
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      CommentAuthorlordmitz
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     (4817.10)
    The answer to that varies. When did you lose your virginity? No? Really? And you're how old? Ah. Well then, the answer is Hulk.

    what? no way, superman.

    seriously, don't come up with ways to kill the freakangels. it's distressing! imagine how dull the comic would be if they were dead. you'd tune in every friday, only to be greeted by the same empty alleyway.
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     (4817.11)
    They DID destroy the world. Presumably, big-ticket weapons may have been used against them with no success. Unless they took the world unawares, which also seems likely.

    So far bonking them on the head is the best option but you better have a follow-up or you're pink mist.
    (As an aside, why didn't Jack use his powers to deal with the dudes on the boat? Used a shooter, as I recall.)

    Time and Warren and Paul will tell.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009 edited
     (4817.12)
    (As an aside, why didn't Jack use his powers to deal with the dudes on the boat? Used a shooter, as I recall.)


    Probably because that's not his style. Jack seems to be a pretty physical guy who prefers physical ways of dealing with problems. Recall that it was Sirkka who put up the force shield when somebody was shooting at them and Jack who brushed it aside to shoot back. Figure Jack can use psionics when he has to (aiding in generating the shield to protect Alice from the morter) but he'd much rather slit your throat or blow your brains through the top of your skull than telekinetically make your heart explode. Jack's a simple guy with simple, if lethal, tastes.
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     (4817.13)
    Hurm. Good points. Plus, the FA's have different skills (Arkady's teleporting) and you just have to know how to work the controls. Perhaps certain Freakangels practice using their powers more than others, are more comfortable using their powers than others. Maybe Jack's still a freaked out by that whole "we used our powers to destroy the world" thing so he leans toward the physical. Karl and the tin-foil beanie, to block out the others implies he's not that cool with the whole community. That Luke is a real charmer, isn't he And crazy Arkady is the one who figures out you can teleport if you want to.

    Problem is, you take out ONE FreakAngel, the rest will know RIGHT AWAY. (They're linked and all.) Then you're fucked.

    And, finally ...
    i think the bigger question here is: could superman beat the hulk?

    Which Superman? What Hulk?
    • CommentAuthorCulebra
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     (4817.14)
    wait... why do you want to hurt the freakangels? what did they do to you?

    Rule 1 of dealing with metas: have an insurance policy in case they turn on you.

    "Nukes? Really? Good luck with that. That just might piss them off. They destroyed the fucking world, do you think they said "Leave the nukes. They'll never be a problem again." I think not, sir. Or madam."

    I'm sure there are few sitting in storage in the middle of Balochistan or somewhere in South Africa that no one is aware of.

    "Maybe show them - well, except Sirkka - the contents of the I Did Not Need To See That image thread?"

    Ah, yes. Gambit's personal anti-telepath weapon is to think of the Blob naked. Seems like a good block.

    "seriously, don't come up with ways to kill the freakangels. it's distressing! imagine how dull the comic would be if they were dead. you'd tune in every friday, only to be greeted by the same empty alleyway."

    They take a lot to kill, assuming it is even possible to kill them. Much of this can as equally apply to merely incapacitating them. Besides, all of this will be needed to be taken into account once a credible mundane- that is, non psi- foe appears. A few loonies with mortars and shooters do not exactly qualify as a well-armed, well-planned archnemesis armed with VTOL carriers and body armor equipped goons.
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    How do you catch a cuckoo?
    wait for it to come out of the clock.

    One of the things that I like about the series is that despite being fancy little wonderchildren, they've still got all the character flaws that you get with any human personality. They've all got their own little vices that can be turned against them. I'd still say the best answer is to wait and see.
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     (4817.16)
    Bring down a Freakangel? I dunno, tell them a sad story, perhaps play them some Leonard Cohen songs? Make them watch Requiem For A Dream?
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    Probably because that's not his style. Jack seems to be a pretty physical guy who prefers physical ways of dealing with problems. Recall that it was Sirkka who put up the force shield when somebody was shooting at them and Jack who brushed it aside to shoot back. Figure Jack can use psionics when he has to (aiding in generating the shield to protect Alice from the morter) but he'd much rather slit your throat or blow your brains through the top of your skull than telekinetically make your heart explode. Jack's a simple guy with simple, if lethal, tastes.


    Also, he'd just gotten conked on the head, and from the sound of it that makes things difficult. He had trouble psychically communicating with the others for a period afterward, and the Freaks can usually do that as quick as thinking--I imagine channeling the energy to break bones was something that he couldn't have accomplished at that juncture, even if he had wanted to.
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    If Mark learned to jump bodies, i.e. transfer his consciousness to a nearby human on the moment of death, then he's going to be a real tough cookie to kill.

    Personally:

    1) Seduce one of them.
    2) Screw 'em.
    3) Wait until he/she is asleep.
    4) Slit throat.

    Rinse/ repeat.

    Although, if the FA read your mind, you'd be instantly shafted. Some sort of drug maybe, that prevents them from doing that?

    Maybe some people have an immunity to FA powers, like Kitty in Robert Silverberg's <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_Inside">Dying Inside</a></i>.

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