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      CommentAuthorhowyadoin
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2009
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    The artists job could be described as being to give it patterns, yet with a new context, a new shift or purpose.
    Sure. Look at Einstein's rules of work:

    Out of clutter find simplicity; From discord find harmony; In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.
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    Regarding loops, how could anyone forget Ken Nordine's Word Jazz...some of the most messed up stuff comes out of that mans mind...

    http://www.wordjazz.com/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Nordine
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      CommentAuthorWillow Bl00
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009 edited
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    You all are so great! Thank you.

    @aike Beardyman has some stupidly amazing circular breathing. My favorite is this one:
    Beardyman can have my babies anytime
    Also, I remember reading about the pleasure we take in breaking an established pattern, but I think it was in regards to the Old Testament. Any idea of authors?

    @Admiral Neck I will pick up a copy. Thank you.

    @howyadoin Fantastic quote.

    @Orpington2019 Will have to check it out later... my gifted laptop is tragically lacking speakers.


    Dear everyone.

    The reason I started this discussion is because I'm considering putting together a retreat with the Transhumanists out here in Seattle about loops. Panel discussions during the day, looping music at night. Not sure yet. Thus all the questions about more research I can do and stuff.

    So again, many thanks. I crowdsource you! How you like it?!
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      CommentAuthorcelan
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009 edited
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    Here's a little guitar loop I made...now updated with video:
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2009
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    @ Willow Bl00: Dang, wish I was in Seattle for that.

    Hmm. Crowdsourcing. Would there possibly be any interest for a loop collaboration, where a bunch of people (lots of good music makers, here) were to record loops -- some with clearly defined parameters with regard to tempo, key etc., others as more freeform -- and you would then be free to layer and toy with those any way you'd feel like? All you'd really need is a bunch of mp3 players, a mixer and maybe some effects.
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    The whitechapel loop orchestra?
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      CommentAuthorAlastair
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2009
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    @offtanddiscord hey what ever happened to that?
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2009
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    @ offtandiscord

    It's INFINITE!
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    I've been way too busy recently to make any progress with the orchestra, moved countries, am settling immigration problems, don't have the space to even set up any speakers let alone the rest of my gear... I'm not gonna give up on it, of course, just for now it's sleeping...
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      CommentAuthorAlastair
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2009
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    i just totally lost myself for a while looping and whatnot.... the sort of thing that started being just obscene noise but then secret pulses and rhythems started coming out and....


    i think i may still be a bit spaced from it.....

    whooo it was intense


    love this shit
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    it happens! often horribly boring to watch, but so so awesome to make...
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      CommentAuthorAlastair
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2009
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    yeah... i'd love to find people to make stuff like that with live, but the scene here is all metal and indie :(
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      CommentAuthorFinagle
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
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    Someone should just kick it off - take out a site on drop.io (100 MB limit I think, but that's not too bad), upload a couple loops, post a link. Someone downloads a loop, screws with it, uploads it, posts the link.

    I used to do similar stuff with a friend but with Photoshop. Fun stuff.
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
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    This kicked me into learning the basics of Flash. I'm going to work up a prototype web interface for The Infinite Orchestra where users can mix loops on the fly. We'll see how that works; shouldn't be too tricky.
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    @Stygmata I have no musical talent, but I'd love to see how it goes. I miss seeing those photochop threads.
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      CommentAuthoraike
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
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    Beardyman On Headspace

    While we are on the topic, I just saw this... the guy is so cool.
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      CommentAuthorcelan
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2009
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    More loop wankery!
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    My example is just audio, since my fiddling with the laptop isn't really all that interesting. I've often said I'm the slowest guitarist in Finland, and as evidence this piece takes about 5 minutes before you hear something unmistakably guitarlike. The whole thing is roughly 13 minutes.



    Anyway, a word or two about process.

    I usually have two tracks in Ableton Live: One for the guitar sound, and one for the looper. #1 feeds into #2 when I want it to, othertimes I'm able to play solos or what have you on top of the loops. This also lets me use separate processing for the two tracks.

    On the above piece I forgot to arm the guitar track for recording, so all the melodies etc. I was playing went the way of the dodo, and the only thing left was the loop track. Fortunately that one turned out to be quite lovely, and I did layer some of the harmonic development into the loops as well.

    There are three loops going on there. One is centered, one panned to the right, one to the left. The lengths of the loops are not the same, so the textures shift around over time. In some cases stuff is added to all loops simultaniously, sometimes to just some of them (and with varying volumes etc.). Some feedback changes to let the loops develop instead of just racking up more layers. A few bits are reversed during playback. The effects used are mostly tremolo, delay, reverb and Pluggo Feedback Network, which is just a lovely and uncotrollable beast.

    Long story short, live guitar, no overdubs after the performance.
    • CommentAuthorearl
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2009
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    Steve Reich's "It's Gonna Rain" is a pretty wild piece of very early tape loop music that has become very influential. I couldn't find the whole piece on line, but I did find this little documentary.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0DQRfm0uL8
    • CommentAuthorpoor_boy
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2009
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    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rUxiqQHKs0&feature=player_embedded">It's Gonna Rain!</a>

    XD

    shane drink stupid now. write genius soon. love you:)