Whitechapel - FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123171#Comment_123171 2009-01-30T04:05:04-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Ariana http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1 Friday gone noon GMT is FREAKANGELS freeness yay fuck I'm tired. Morning Whitechapel. FREAKANGELS freeness yay fuck I'm tired.

Morning Whitechapel.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123175#Comment_123175 2009-01-30T04:15:44-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Zaratustra http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3817 Can't say it was unexpected. But Miki looks cute in the last panel there. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123176#Comment_123176 2009-01-30T04:16:48-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 3millionyears http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5422 The way the refugees were shown as to be being desperate as well as a threat was excellent. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123177#Comment_123177 2009-01-30T04:45:19-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 Just got off work, and this welcome bit was what google reader next sent me to make me feel better about the crap at work. @3millionyears: I have a feeling desperation is at the root of most ...
@3millionyears:
I have a feeling desperation is at the root of most threats in the Drowned World.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123178#Comment_123178 2009-01-30T04:50:24-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 remotepush http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=551 instead of working till lunch time then coming home to freak angels, i got to take today off and sleep till lunch time then read freak angels. sweet. :) FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123180#Comment_123180 2009-01-30T04:57:48-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 twitch_ramirez http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2478 MIKI: WE DO WHAT WE’VE ALWAYS DONE! MY GOD! MIKI: WHAT DO WE EVER DO BUT SOMEHOW FIND A FUCKING WAY TO DO THINGS? well now, the 'world' has taken a shake? same here, tired this morning. MIKI: WE DO WHAT WE’VE ALWAYS DONE! MY GOD!
MIKI: WHAT DO WE EVER DO BUT SOMEHOW FIND A FUCKING WAY TO DO THINGS?
well now, the 'world' has taken a shake?

same here, tired this morning.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123182#Comment_123182 2009-01-30T05:01:11-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 cjstevens http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1610 I love Freakangels, along with Sleepless i think it is the best comic available now, but I'm just wondering about the reality of the setting. Why are people dying, why aren't they setting up farming ... Not picking holes just curious!]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123185#Comment_123185 2009-01-30T05:18:01-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 nigredo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2373 There was a similar situation in Jericho, the TV show. Eager to see how Warren will handle it. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123187#Comment_123187 2009-01-30T05:19:05-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 indysleaze http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2104 How many people in the east end of London would have the first clue about post-apocalypse survival? Me, I'd heard for Focus DIY or B&Q but I bet there'd be men with guns there first. Lovely ...
Lovely episode, and a nice return after the carnage of the last month - looking back over some of those pages gave me the feeling that I didn't want to know most of these people.

I've had a shitty week, brightened only by a manga event at the library which drew teenage girls in cosplay. I know, but 'cmon!]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123188#Comment_123188 2009-01-30T05:21:28-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Kradlum http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3664 Another great episode. Where is the military, UN Aid workers etc From previous episodes it looks like Whitechapel is as good as it gets. It was strongly hinted (if I recall right) that the US ...
Where is the military, UN Aid workers etc


From previous episodes it looks like Whitechapel is as good as it gets. It was strongly hinted (if I recall right) that the US doesn't exist. It's not just some kind of natural disaster remember, there's other wierd stuff going on - there's a 3 minute time shift between London and East Anglia for instance.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123190#Comment_123190 2009-01-30T05:29:26-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 cheesecrow http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5221 mmm tasty maggot-ridden rabbit.... I wonder how much the Ididnotneedtoseethatimage thread is of an influence on some of the art.... some very powerful images there, nice... some very powerful images there, nice...]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123191#Comment_123191 2009-01-30T05:32:09-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 moali http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1430 yay fuck I'm tired. me2 yay fuck I'm tired.

me2]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123192#Comment_123192 2009-01-30T05:44:04-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Brad McLoughlin http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=620 This series just keeps on surprising me... FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123194#Comment_123194 2009-01-30T05:53:41-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 LBA http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=615 good morning, it was nice to see the kids go into a situation and think and act reasonably and logically and not just blow shit up. Although I admit to really enjoying seeing shit blown up in ...
I had the first good nights sleep in a week last night and it is amazing how much better I feel]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123196#Comment_123196 2009-01-30T06:02:18-08:00 2009-01-30T06:02:47-08:00 diello http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3575 Morning, Whitechapel. Aaah, Miki redeems herself. I don't dislike her so much anymore. But why do I get the feeling she wants to save these people because she's just bored, sitting all alone in ... Aaah, Miki redeems herself. I don't dislike her so much anymore. But why do I get the feeling she wants to save these people because she's just bored, sitting all alone in her doctor's office?
;)]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123198#Comment_123198 2009-01-30T06:03:15-08:00 2009-01-30T06:07:00-08:00 mister hex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4411 Hmm. Guilt rears its head. And how's the rest of Whitechapel going to look at the parasites new arrivals? They did shoot a mortar at them. If 'civilians' lived above the Freakcave (or even near it) ... parasites new arrivals? They did shoot a mortar at them. If 'civilians' lived above the Freakcave (or even near it) they were certainly killed. Dead people have friends and relatives whose first response would be to shit-kick the fuckers responsible. But who wants to beat up some wretch? You'd probably kill him with the first shot and he'd probably fucking thank you for it.

Not all the FA's are even in favour of this decision, which is really the only decision a human could make. And remember, they're twenty-three and life hasn't properly kicked them in the genitals yet.

EDIT TO ADD - They think they can do anything (and who's to say they can't?).

And yes, I'm tired. And hungry. And vaguely pissed off and very disappointed with myself. Long story. Started at birth. Too boring and stupid to recount.

Sorry for that. Jazz hands, everyone! Happy Friday!!!]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123200#Comment_123200 2009-01-30T06:05:42-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Lazlo23 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1257 i was almost positive that there was going to be some serious "furniture kicking" this week. i suppose they would have to possess the aforementioned "furniture" in order for it ... oh, right, the humanity... that's what it's really about.
thank you.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123201#Comment_123201 2009-01-30T06:06:55-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Gekko http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3435 How come we're all tired? Well, this episode is perfect to cheer us up. Fascinating contrast after the killings of former episodes and now you get me wondering where we're going to. Also, as said ...
Well, this episode is perfect to cheer us up. Fascinating contrast after the killings of former episodes and now you get me wondering where we're going to.
Also, as said above, I like the expression of miki on the last panel, as if she felt entertained.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123206#Comment_123206 2009-01-30T06:12:36-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 buddharhubarbbutter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=974 The attention to detail is fantastic: the smell of the water, the floaty white bits indicitive of cholera. The mother with the 6 mo. old that won't eat reached up and twisted my heart completely ...
The mother with the 6 mo. old that won't eat reached up and twisted my heart completely around in my chest.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123207#Comment_123207 2009-01-30T06:15:11-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 catchd7 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5457 This episode was a fantastic tonic. Thank you very much for showing the heart, the caring, the optimism involved in our taking care of each other. It's much appreciated. A great story made even ... FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123208#Comment_123208 2009-01-30T06:15:40-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 heresybob http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4109 If you've ever read Charles Dickens broken up as his work was published (he was paid per word over serial publishing), there's something similar going on here. Freak Angels seems to have no pressure ...
I think the last two "weeks" has been the best. The looks on everyone's faces during the teleport last ep compared to the stark painful reality this ep.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123212#Comment_123212 2009-01-30T06:26:45-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Noogies http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4617 Almost made me cry. Good stuff! Been a shitty week, was at home sick for most of it. But things are looking up today, first of all it´s Freakangelsfriday, and then there will be beer tonight....

Been a shitty week, was at home sick for most of it. But things are looking up today, first of all it´s Freakangelsfriday, and then there will be beer tonight....]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123214#Comment_123214 2009-01-30T06:27:09-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Cynara http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5458 I feel proud of the Freakangels this week - though most of them probably have doubts about this course of action. Still, I'm proud of them for doing something I won't do: go to the ... Still, I'm proud of them for doing something I won't do: go to the poverty-stricken and invite them home. I have a spare room. I could do it. This isn't just "come and be happy, ye pitiful bastards" - it's "here's the key, breakfast's at 7:30, don't let the cat out."]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123219#Comment_123219 2009-01-30T06:41:02-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Leto http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5181 Oh god its so depressing. But so good.
But so good.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123222#Comment_123222 2009-01-30T06:43:55-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Peter Kelly http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3000 Fuck'n A This is my single favourite episode. Great way for me to start my birthday. My week was okay, looking forward to a killer weekend starting with a free lunch at work (they just ...
This is my single favourite episode. Great way for me to start my birthday.

My week was okay, looking forward to a killer weekend starting with a free lunch at work
(they just shifted from having Cake on people's B-days to having a full lunch once a month, and this one lands on my actual b-day...though no one at wors knows this.. is it odd I feel more comfortable telling WhiteChapel about this then I do co-workers....? B-days are weird for me, I like to celebrate, but at the same time keep it private)

Anyway, thanks again to Mr. Ellis and Mr. Duffield (and everyone at Avatar)]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123223#Comment_123223 2009-01-30T06:44:41-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 LBA http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=615 @Peter Kelly - Happy Birthday FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123224#Comment_123224 2009-01-30T06:49:46-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Flabyo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1306 The art research for this one can't have been much fun. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123228#Comment_123228 2009-01-30T07:01:20-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 pewterfish http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5456 As a human being, I agree with Miki. As an engineer (day-job), I have to feel for Caz, though. She's been saying that they're near the limit of their capacity as it is for a while now, and Miki ...
As an engineer (day-job), I have to feel for Caz, though. She's been saying that they're near the limit of their capacity as it is for a while now, and Miki (and the others) blithely disregard her words and assume she'll be able to make it work. It's a familiar feeling and, from experience, at times the assumption comes back to bite you.

I wonder if the clan's generosity will get them into trouble...]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123229#Comment_123229 2009-01-30T07:03:59-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Daviddarkly http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5318 Alright strip; nice to see someone acting with a bit of compassion. Don't see why they all have to say 'fucking' every other word. Just comes across as immature. Bit like teenagers. I'm 21 and me and ... FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123230#Comment_123230 2009-01-30T07:04:18-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 bairdduvessa http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=397 from evil angels of destruction to compassionate caregivers. ya never know what is coming next FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123233#Comment_123233 2009-01-30T07:10:14-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Daviddarkly http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5318 Then again, given the stressful nature of the senario, I guess it's kind of understandable. Holy shit - fucking starvation and disease! Horrible! Don't see why the FAs don't get Kady to 'imagine' ...
Don't see why the FAs don't get Kady to 'imagine' them up fresh water and supplies. After all, she reckons she can 'do anything'... Suppose they think she's just a bit off her rocker.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123236#Comment_123236 2009-01-30T07:25:27-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 kahavi http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2713 Man oh man, did this episode kick me good. Great job, as always. *goes back to puking her guts up*
Great job, as always.

*goes back to puking her guts up*]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123238#Comment_123238 2009-01-30T07:29:49-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 infomancer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5161 As nice a thing as Miki is trying to do, I have a feeling it won't end well. In other news, we are buried in snow here and I don't know how much longer I can stand it.
In other news, we are buried in snow here and I don't know how much longer I can stand it.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123253#Comment_123253 2009-01-30T08:23:13-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Val A Lindsay II http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1680 Good morning to you all. Ah, Miki. I think she's probably my favorite. :) Although I don't yet know the circumstances for society's fall in the story, I get the fear every once in a while that ...
Ah, Miki. I think she's probably my favorite. :)

Although I don't yet know the circumstances for society's fall in the story, I get the fear every once in a while that most of us, big brain and all, could not make society work outside the occasional huddling around a fire, whining and slowly dying. You, Mr. Ellis and Mr. Duffield, have nailed one of my worst fears today quite clearly in 2 pages.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123255#Comment_123255 2009-01-30T08:33:33-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 muse hick http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=483 i needed that this morning my laptop went and died yesterday (disk read error) today i found i had actually backed it up - well five months ago it seems (but still, it means that i have the books ...
my laptop went and died yesterday (disk read error)
today i found i had actually backed it up - well five months ago it seems (but still, it means that i have the books i thought i had lost in a semi-edited state)
lost at least two partially written novels of around 20,000 words each but still it could have been worse]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123261#Comment_123261 2009-01-30T08:51:43-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 thom_wong http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=432 Seem to be forgetting that the Freakangels destroyed this world they're currently saving... and @cjstevens - I'm going to go out on a limb and say Warren's sort of thought about all that.
and @cjstevens - I'm going to go out on a limb and say Warren's sort of thought about all that.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123263#Comment_123263 2009-01-30T09:09:16-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 misat0 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4738 Stellar episode there from the heart breaking state of the refugees to the change of mind. This is why I love Fridays. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123267#Comment_123267 2009-01-30T09:32:12-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Indigo Rose http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4487 Thank you Warren. Maith thu! I love what Miki is doing. I also love that this is going to put strain on their resources, because, to me, it seems as though they will have to venture outward again, ...
I love what Miki is doing. I also love that this is going to put strain on their resources, because, to me, it seems as though they will have to venture outward again, search for more. Perhaps this will prompt them to show us more of the world around Whitechapel. I loved the scenes with Jack scavenging for stuff, navigating the flooded cities, so more exploration is good with me.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123268#Comment_123268 2009-01-30T09:38:16-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Spenceball http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3151 I had cholera once, in Belize as a child. It wasn't fun. There should be shit and puke everywhere. I mean everywhere! I'm wondering if the other freak angels will bring up the argument of ...
I'm wondering if the other freak angels will bring up the argument of euthanasia for the good of the masses. Surely some of these people are better off dead.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123280#Comment_123280 2009-01-30T10:18:27-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 brycemidas http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1636 @Daviddarkly I've been wondering that too. Apparently they have all sorts of untapped potential. Will be interesting to see what comes next. Also, more KK on the flying gyrocopter! We have the ... I've been wondering that too. Apparently they have all sorts of untapped potential. Will be interesting to see what comes next.

Also, more KK on the flying gyrocopter! We have the facts and we are voting more gyrocopter.

Also, I am very tired and just tried to be funny on my blog. Nothing good can come of this.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123290#Comment_123290 2009-01-30T10:43:23-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 VertigoJones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4512 This episode and the last have done a pretty decent job of performing a russian leg sweep on my dislike of the FreakAngels. I think there have been real indications of megalomania, which are of ... FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123292#Comment_123292 2009-01-30T10:55:43-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Pooka http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=216 I've had such a shitty morning. I'd drank most of last night and spent most of this morning crying. This damned recession is getting hard. My husband's will is breaking...he can't find a job here ... We put our frozen food in the car to keep the stray critters from it, but the sun came out during the morning and by the time we went out to get our food, it had all thawed..
I didn't mean to sound whiny...this was more meant to be read in a ranting, angry tone I promise :P....

This episode actually helped...It made me remember that things can ALWAYS be worse...
and I was happy to see the freakykids doing right, even if only one of them seemed to like that decision.
It's kinda sad though, that they argue the point that they can't sustain many more people and continue their relatively comfortable lives...considering the apparent hellish existance of their neighbors. It's like a swimming pool owner getting pissy because he can't fill his pool during a drought, while his neighbors are dying of thirst...umm...I hope that makes sense...I'm really tired...but...do you get the gist?
Basically, I think Whitechapels loss would be significantly less than the benefit those poor starving people would gain from their protection and help...
yeah..imma gonna shut up now.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123293#Comment_123293 2009-01-30T10:57:53-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 This was a good episode. I do think Miki should listen to Caz though. It seems like Miki went off the deep end this time. I somehow think that Miki might have lived a life like that sometime. ... I do think Miki should listen to Caz though. It seems like Miki went off the deep end this time.

I somehow think that Miki might have lived a life like that sometime. Cause her reaction to it all was very emotional.
I don't think Miki is really looking it through.
I think somehow her decisions are based off of emotional thought, rather then logical thinking.

I kind of agree, it's sad, but if our carrying capacity is at its limit then maybe we can't take on more.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123298#Comment_123298 2009-01-30T11:14:45-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Indigo Rose http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4487 Or maybe it's time to look for alternatives, find more resources, get everyone involved in the process. Caz has a great point, but it was one that was going to need to be addressed sooner or later ... Caz has a great point, but it was one that was going to need to be addressed sooner or later anyway. People will continue to have kids, they better figure things out before it's too late.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123299#Comment_123299 2009-01-30T11:23:12-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 HylianHearts http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4696 That's all well and good, but WHY DID THEY SEND THE MEN? Why would they go kill them? You'd think they would sneak in and take food, not come in with guns blazing.... FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123301#Comment_123301 2009-01-30T11:26:49-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 But if your alternatives are buried somewhere, or cannot be found how can you make alternatives? Problem is that if they accept more people into Whitechapel, I have a feeling they won't be able to ...
Problem is that if they accept more people into Whitechapel, I have a feeling they won't be able to protect everyone.
This isn't just about resources, this is about the safety of people, the protection of everyone, and the cooperation of people.


I still think Miki was acting way to emotional and not thinking it through.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123302#Comment_123302 2009-01-30T11:32:40-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Indigo Rose http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4487 @ HylianHearts - Yeah, it is odd that they didn't really discuss that, isn't it? FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123305#Comment_123305 2009-01-30T11:35:27-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 HylianHearts http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4696 @Indigo Rose That would be my first question. If I wanted to steal food, I'd sneak in and snatch the stuff. Or I'd use the guns as a diversion while another group nicked the stuff. But even that ...
That would be my first question. If I wanted to steal food, I'd sneak in and snatch the stuff. Or I'd use the guns as a diversion while another group nicked the stuff. But even that is a bit bold. So you have to wonder, why?]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123306#Comment_123306 2009-01-30T11:35:34-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Pooka http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=216 @indigo rose Desperation perhaps...people on the edge of death aren't really thinking clearly... FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123307#Comment_123307 2009-01-30T11:37:04-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 Yeah, but they were on the edge of death. Did you see those people? They don't look like they could man a mortar very well. So there is something going under the surface. Maybe the people are the ... Did you see those people?
They don't look like they could man a mortar very well.
So there is something going under the surface.
Maybe the people are the distraction.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123310#Comment_123310 2009-01-30T11:44:27-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Pooka http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=216 true... FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123311#Comment_123311 2009-01-30T11:47:56-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 diello http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3575 it is odd that they didn't really discuss that, isn't it Give it time. We've only got one episode here. Not enough time to detail or get answers, if you ask me. it is odd that they didn't really discuss that, isn't it
Give it time. We've only got one episode here. Not enough time to detail or get answers, if you ask me.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123316#Comment_123316 2009-01-30T12:08:19-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Indigo Rose http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4487 Yeah, but shouldn't that have been the first matter of business, instead of the savior bit? FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123317#Comment_123317 2009-01-30T12:09:32-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 Well as I said all decisions were taking over by Miki. Who was clearly emotional controlled? Kaitlyn was trying to get to the matter of business. Miki interrupted. Who was clearly emotional controlled?

Kaitlyn was trying to get to the matter of business.
Miki interrupted.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123327#Comment_123327 2009-01-30T12:31:48-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Pooka http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=216 yeah...you try to be cold hearted when there's a six month old starving baby in front of ya... :P
:P]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123328#Comment_123328 2009-01-30T12:39:18-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 Yes, but in a situation like that you have to have to detach yourself from that. You just have to. You cannot let your emotions control you. It isn't being cold heart it's being logical. Like I ... You cannot let your emotions control you.
It isn't being cold heart it's being logical.
Like I said I think Miki lived a life somewhat like that or something. Because the moment she saw them even before the six month year old baby was starving she began to cry.
Very last panel I think of the first page.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123330#Comment_123330 2009-01-30T12:46:34-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 PenguinGeneral http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5228 Two points: If the freakangel's can end the world, then they can save it to. Natural progression. What there doing right now is masturbation, they have a much greater capacity for redempetion than ...
If the freakangel's can end the world, then they can save it to. Natural progression. What there doing right now is masturbation, they have a much greater capacity for redempetion than there piddling with currently. Case in point: Half of them concentrating on lifting Caz's tank out of the water could solve the water scarcity and make crops possible.

Arming people with mortars and guns to destroy other post-apocolyptic people for scraps of food is a lesson we learned with the mesopatamians. Band together or fall is a widespread notion, and don't fuck with the social tops even more so. When that band of dying people sent the raiders they sealed there fate with there almost painful ignorance. It is the responsibility of the FA to care for them because they have the capacity, but do they rationaly deserve it? There fellow humans, so yes, but Darwin would cut them loose, and even the lees convicted pacifist would feel no guilt in leaving these violent dead in their despair.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123355#Comment_123355 2009-01-30T15:11:41-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 razrangel http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2075 Damn you, Ellis. Saying there's no crying allowed and then going and making me cry. I love Miki and regularly work with her final words in my heart - we'll do what we always do, make it work. ...
There are always naysayers and there truly are limitations. But if anyone can make the incredible happen, it's an engineer. I'm such a dork when ever I hear a techy type griping that something can't be done I hear Scotty saying "she's giving all she's got!" After the griping engineers always find a way, even if it's totally scrapping the old model for a more productive one. }:>

But first there has to be the belief that everyone is entitled to a dignified life. Everyone.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123359#Comment_123359 2009-01-30T15:20:27-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Pooka http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=216 @razangel YAY! you articulated what my addled brain could not... If these Freakangels are so damned powerful, they should put that power to good. Think of what they could fix if they put their ...
If these Freakangels are so damned powerful, they should put that power to good. Think of what they could fix if they put their minds to it...]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123363#Comment_123363 2009-01-30T15:31:33-08:00 2009-01-30T15:33:29-08:00 diello http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3575 @Indigo Yeah, but shouldn't that have been the first matter of business, instead of the savior bit? The FreakAngels' prerogative seems to be to shoot first and ask questions later. The same was ...
Yeah, but shouldn't that have been the first matter of business, instead of the savior bit?

The FreakAngels' prerogative seems to be to shoot first and ask questions later. The same was done with Alice.

@Masterful
Kaitlyn was trying to get to the matter of business.
Miki interrupted.

Except Kait (as we saw a couple episodes back when she asked questions first then shot).]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123364#Comment_123364 2009-01-30T15:39:50-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 There fellow humans, so yes, but Darwin would cut them loose For your future reference, in case you try to use this argument in the outside world and therefore invite a punitive beating: Darwin ... There fellow humans, so yes, but Darwin would cut them loose


For your future reference, in case you try to use this argument in the outside world and therefore invite a punitive beating: Darwin wrote that sympathy was "the noblest part of our nature."]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123366#Comment_123366 2009-01-30T16:02:53-08:00 2009-01-30T16:05:50-08:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 For your future reference, in case you try to use this argument in the outside world and therefore invite a punitive beating: Darwin wrote that sympathy was "the noblest part of our ... For your future reference, in case you try to use this argument in the outside world and therefore invite a punitive beating: Darwin wrote that sympathy was "the noblest part of our nature."

Beat me to it, Mr. Ellis, thank you. Compassion's place as a survival trait is something far too many people gloss over in their eagerness to forward their own version of fitness.

By compassion and empathy, we form communities. One of humanity's great survival adaptations is our ability to form those communities... We are social animals. We network, share strengths, gain solace in each other. Yes. There is risk there, yes. Given that our socialization traits persist, I'd argue the adaptation has proven viable.

Consider the attack by New Cross on Whitechapel and the Mudlark's on Jack and his boat in book one. The first thing that they do in Whitechapel is mobilize the community via the siren and radios. Then the community leaders-- the Freakangels-- start co-ordinating defense. Even setting up the guns is a group effort-- note that Sirkka's harem is trained to arm the big gun on top of her house, and even as Sirkka notes that the training was tedious, she's getting ready to fire on the bastards who hurt her Jack and are coming to invade and hurt people in her town. Note how the people on the street get armed. How many would consider flight more readily if they didn't have a sense of community toward Whitechapel?

Even Sirkka's little free love group bands together out for defense, suggesting a deeper connection than merely satisfying their physical sexual drive-- I'd wager that they're quite passionate about it, given Jack's observations on how freely Sirkka shares her love. Every one of the boys and girls are arming that gun to defend a place where they can live as they do.

So, yes, there are some practical concerns that absorbing the nomads raises. But suggesting that Miki's urge to save these people is some sort of Darwinian flaw misses the full picture. It's a risk-- we don't know if her compassion will bring strength to the community yet, what these people have to offer. But that risk is part of humanity's survival traits, not counter to them.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123371#Comment_123371 2009-01-30T16:22:58-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 Compassion, sympathy, and empathy. They can get you pretty far in life. But when is there to much compassion, sympathy, and empathy. There is more then emotions at stake. It's life. And ... But when is there to much compassion, sympathy, and empathy.
There is more then emotions at stake.
It's life.
And sometimes there is life you can hold onto...life that can grow, and then there is life the natural world is trying to cut off.
How do we know which is which?]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123375#Comment_123375 2009-01-30T16:30:50-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 And sometimes there is life you can hold onto...life that can grow, and then there is life the natural world is trying to cut off. How do we know which is which? I'd love to see you have this ... And sometimes there is life you can hold onto...life that can grow, and then there is life the natural world is trying to cut off.
How do we know which is which?

I'd love to see you have this conversation with a doctor.

Funnily enough, it's a doctor that's mostly speaking, in this episode. What a coincidence.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123377#Comment_123377 2009-01-30T16:39:39-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 Well the natural world has always killed of species and give birth to a more extreme form of that species or that species goes instinct and never comes back. I don't see why we never think that ... I don't see why we never think that could happen with the human world.
Just like I don't see why we couldn't see it happen to other species.
Nature has worked its part to kill and revive all the time.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123378#Comment_123378 2009-01-30T16:41:21-08:00 2009-01-30T16:47:07-08:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 ((Edited for clarity and stuff)) @MasterEyes And sometimes there is life you can hold onto...life that can grow, and then there is life the natural world is trying to cut off. How do we know which ... @MasterEyes
And sometimes there is life you can hold onto...life that can grow, and then there is life the natural world is trying to cut off.
How do we know which is which?


Your anthropomorphism of the natural world is not helping you make your point in our current context. When you offer it in this context, my immediate thought is the natural world isn't actively doing anything. It's just the environment. It has no agency. Natural selection is not a matter of mother nature saying this species lives, this one dies. It's the cumulative effect of genes that express as traits that aid survival being passed on to the next generation. They get passed on because they work-- as expressed in the fact the individual LIVES to pass them on. I'd argue helping more of a population survive aides in this. Cheetahs face a sort of "evolutionary body neck" due to the species' gene pool being too narrow. Helping the sick and seemingly weak expands our gene pool. Traits don't necessarily come in nice, perfect packages-- in fact, if they did, evolution wouldn't even be a continuing process.

@Warren:
I'd love to see you have this conversation with a doctor.

Funnily enough, it's a doctor that's mostly speaking, in this episode. What a coincidence.


Yep. Total coincidence.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123380#Comment_123380 2009-01-30T16:43:21-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 razrangel http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2075 It's easy to see the ills of the world and get overwhelmed with the tragedy and complexity. But that's why we also have our mental faculties so we can be analytical about what we have, what we can ...
So we have to strike a balance. We can do both - take care of people *and* expand our capabilities. Humanity has been doing exactly that for thousands of years. It's when we shut ourselves off to one another that the shithouse comes down. It's distrust and greed that cause collapses like the one we're in now. More distrust and greed won't solve it.

I love that the 'Angels are sorta superheroes in that they have supernatural powers, but really kind of ordinary in terms of having very human reactions, emotions and practical concerns (for others). I'm always a fan of stories like these. Thanks, Warren.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123381#Comment_123381 2009-01-30T16:44:30-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 I was just saying. Maybe these people they are trying to save would be better off dead. [Makes me sound like a cold hearted man, but...yeah] Maybe these people they are trying to save would be better off dead.
[Makes me sound like a cold hearted man, but...yeah]]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123383#Comment_123383 2009-01-30T16:50:01-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 I was just saying. Maybe these people they are trying to save would be better off dead. [Makes me sound like a cold hearted man, but...yeah] Yes. It does. I was just saying.
Maybe these people they are trying to save would be better off dead.
[Makes me sound like a cold hearted man, but...yeah]

Yes. It does.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123384#Comment_123384 2009-01-30T16:51:05-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052 Funnily enough, it's a doctor that's mostly speaking, in this episode. What a coincidence. Actually, it's not. Just last week you had KK note that "Miki isn't actually a qualified ... Funnily enough, it's a doctor that's mostly speaking, in this episode. What a coincidence.

Actually, it's not. Just last week you had KK note that "Miki isn't actually a qualified doctor." And that's an important thing.

Miki isn't really a doctor. Caz isn't really an engineer. The Freakangels were hunted fugitives for you-knows-how-long. They're brilliant and have superpowers so they can pick things up really quickly, but they don't seem to have gone through any kind of formal educational process beyond perhaps age 13 or so. Maybe older, maybe younger, but 13 seems a good arbitrary cut-off point to me. And without formal training they miss out on things like bioethics and the like.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123385#Comment_123385 2009-01-30T16:52:12-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 But the reason I say it is because. Miki isn't really a doctor, as it states in an episode back. She may know what she is doing a little bit, but maybe she'll bring more harm unto the people. It's ... Miki isn't really a doctor, as it states in an episode back.
She may know what she is doing a little bit, but maybe she'll bring more harm unto the people.
It's best to let them die off, rather then to do further harm.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123386#Comment_123386 2009-01-30T16:53:09-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 I love that the 'Angels are sorta superheroes in that they have supernatural powers, but really kind of ordinary in terms of having very human reactions, emotions and practical concerns (for others). ... I love that the 'Angels are sorta superheroes in that they have supernatural powers, but really kind of ordinary in terms of having very human reactions, emotions and practical concerns (for others). I'm always a fan of stories like these. Thanks, Warren.

Yes. Six pages of Awesome that'd run in a better 2000 AD, if they still mattered. And wouldn't try to assume the copyright.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123387#Comment_123387 2009-01-30T16:57:07-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 @Masterful Eyes But the reason I say it is because. Miki isn't really a doctor, as it states in an episode back. She may know what she is doing a little bit, but maybe she'll bring more harm ...
But the reason I say it is because.
Miki isn't really a doctor, as it states in an episode back.
She may know what she is doing a little bit, but maybe she'll bring more harm unto the people.
It's best to let them die off, rather then to do further harm.


Okay. Is it that they're unfit, and thus should be allowed to die, or because the net harm would be greater?]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123388#Comment_123388 2009-01-30T16:59:37-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 @ D Edward Sauve Because the harm they may possible commit to them may be greater. They don't know the full extent of their conditions. They don't know. What if someone had something more ...
Because the harm they may possible commit to them may be greater.
They don't know the full extent of their conditions.
They don't know.
What if someone had something more serious?
They could cause harm to that person, more then what they have already suffered.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123391#Comment_123391 2009-01-30T17:11:05-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 @Masterful Eyes You've just described the daily conflict of many a doctor. And I'll note, any supposition about Miki's skill level is just that, supposition. She's doing well enough to diagnose ...
You've just described the daily conflict of many a doctor.

And I'll note, any supposition about Miki's skill level is just that, supposition. She's doing well enough to diagnose and identify treatments, but we really know very little about any FA's abilities and the extent thereof. Warren is openly describing her as a Doctor, so I've assumed his picture of her includes study to serve as such; even that is a guess.

And what you've described is exactly why doctors do diagnostics. If someone had waved off my childhood stomach pains as growing pains as my mom insisted, my ulcer would have gone untreated.

Willful ignorance is only bliss until it transforms into the arse eel of reality tunneling up your bowels. Are you suggesting ignorance is the best course here? I don't think that's what you're trying to say. I hope not..]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123393#Comment_123393 2009-01-30T17:18:00-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 I never said ignore the issue or be ignorant about it. Because it's still a problem. But what if it was the wrong diagnosis. These people don't look like the type to take the wrong diagnosis and ... Because it's still a problem.
But what if it was the wrong diagnosis.
These people don't look like the type to take the wrong diagnosis and shake it off. Gave them the wrong kind of medicine for something and they might as well be dead. Or worse they may be killed.
These people aren't healthy to begin with, you give someone who is weak a medicine for something they don't have you don't know how their body will take it.
If it's a healthy person gone sick, or it is a terminal ill person who is sick...we cans somewhat predict the cases and what is going on if they give them this and that.

To me Miki is just an intern doctor at the most.
She may be able to treat some people, but somewhere she is going to mess up.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123395#Comment_123395 2009-01-30T17:28:06-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 @ Masterful Eye I guess we'll see over the coming episodes if you're guessing correctly. At the moment, I think my playing Juror number 8 to your number 3 might be counter productive and I have to ...
I guess we'll see over the coming episodes if you're guessing correctly. At the moment, I think my playing Juror number 8 to your number 3 might be counter productive and I have to get to work shortly. Please excuse me for now.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123400#Comment_123400 2009-01-30T17:50:18-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 stsparky http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2311 I have to think this is a good development. Compassion to the sick is a valid way to try and end the cycle of retribution. Maybe the FAs will end up fixing Britain and save their world. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123410#Comment_123410 2009-01-30T18:47:26-08:00 2009-01-30T18:50:40-08:00 diello http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3575 In a broken world, you appoint the most qualified person to do the job. Doesn't matter anymore whether they're licensed or not. If there's no licensed doctor alive, you do with what you have. All ... FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123414#Comment_123414 2009-01-30T19:07:31-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 James Cunningham http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2925 I like how a bunch of powerful, pissed-off kids destroyed the world by flexing their muscles, and now are slowly learning that they're going to have to put serious work in to save it. The ...
Of course they had to save these people. Anyone saying different is just afraid of the hard work that standard-level compassion demands.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123426#Comment_123426 2009-01-30T20:22:51-08:00 2009-01-30T20:23:40-08:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052 @ Masterful Eyes I think we're coming at this from different angles. Here's my angle. Miki is incredibly skilled at the healing arts. I have absolutely no trouble believing that this thinnish ...
I think we're coming at this from different angles. Here's my angle. Miki is incredibly skilled at the healing arts. I have absolutely no trouble believing that this thinnish 23 year old girl has more medical skill and knowledge than the whole staff of most pre-apocalypse hospitals. I believe she can easily diagnose and (assuming she has the needed materials) treat almost any ailment from the common cold to Ebola-AIDS. Her technical medical competance is not an issue for me.

My issue comes more from her relative lack of formal training and the support system that this training allows. There is no book or internet knowledge to teach you to tell a parent that her child is dying and you don't have the medicine to save her. There is no mental shield to keep your from taking every case personally and driving yourself mad with guilt over your failures. And there is no psionic ability that alerts her when she's making decisions based on emotions and wishful thinking instead of logic and an observation of reality. That takes a support system. It takes other doctors, people who understand what she's going through because they've lived it. To repurpose a quote from the West Wing, Miki doesn't have anyone to jump in the holes she falls in and show her the way out. Because once upon a time she and her friends got mad and killed them all.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123429#Comment_123429 2009-01-30T20:40:19-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 Miki has to become her own support. Or even look to people who haven't gone through it for aid. Miki needs to balance emotion and logic even if she has jumped through holes and cannot find her way ... Or even look to people who haven't gone through it for aid.
Miki needs to balance emotion and logic even if she has jumped through holes and cannot find her way out.
Everyone has to do something on their own.
And I think this is one of those times when Miki would need to do something on her own to help people more.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123445#Comment_123445 2009-01-30T22:43:24-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 I don't know, but I think the attempts to save any and everyone is probably an effort to the greater good. At least, in a mostly-ruined world, it would be. Now, from a logical standpoint, THERE ...
Now, from a logical standpoint, THERE ARE NO MEDICAL SCHOOLS. What Miki has done is probably what most of the other people that took medicine in the post-flood world did: trained themselves as well as they could and hoped for the best.

All the members of the group are concerned with survival and helping people, which is why Miki's sympathy is winning out over just destroying the camp. I think this week's installment says a lot more about the loyalty (and guilt, and sympathy, and overall character) of the group well enough on its own. Picking up 100-odd people won't mean much in the long run, methinks, and will only matter until the technological heart of the group figures out a way to accommodate more people. Really, infrastructures are to their breaking point in the non-flooded world now, in most every country. Every governing body is behind in some way, and it's rare that one operates in perfect anticipation of population fluctuations.

I am not worried about the logistical, ethical, or moral implications of bringing people who have absolutely nothing into a community where they have a chance to eat regularly and have safety in numbers.

No, what worries me is the whole group of Angels being gone, and only Alice, in a watchtower, with a shotgun, to protect the rest of the city while they WALK back with 100 very sick and weak people. I'm not expecting something to happen, per se, but I wouldn't be surprised if something does.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123471#Comment_123471 2009-01-31T01:42:16-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 DavidLejeune http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4220 I thought that Miki also had some sort of Freakangel healing and/or diagnostic power, and that the 'medicine' she gives out is to allay suspicions amongst the normals about their abilities. She's ...
@cjstevens
Where is the military, UN Aid workers etc.
My brain may be mixing things up with another piece of post-apocalyptic fiction, but I dimly recall a mention of the military going all bandit-y in a particularly nasty way after the Big Splash. And (just theorizing here) the immediate aftermath of the event probably also saw a lot of short nasty wars break out, and any sort of aid organisations would've been quickly overwhelmed.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123520#Comment_123520 2009-01-31T09:21:07-08:00 2009-01-31T09:23:33-08:00 Daviddarkly http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5318 Reminds me of when the Allies liberated the concentration camps at the end of the second world war. I was at the Holocaust exhibit at the Imperial War Museum recently, and yeah, when I was ...
I was at the Holocaust exhibit at the Imperial War Museum recently, and yeah, when I was rereading this strip, it promped me to think back to it.

Kinda appropriate considering this week is Holocaust Memorial Week.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123541#Comment_123541 2009-01-31T11:45:06-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Indigo Rose http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4487 Re: Miki - Even if Miki didn't have the supernatural ability to diagnose and heal without training... she's a telepath, if she was ever around any trained doctors, she could have simply taken the ...
Re: The risks of taking in the refugees - Other than the fear of disease, which Miki should be able to handle, there is the risk of them trying to take out the FAs once they are in Whitechapel. I'd say they're a little outnumbered once they get back to Whitechapel, and in no condition to really do anything. As long as the Angels make certain none of them have weapons or explosives to smuggle in, that should be no problem. Then it comes down to the fact that the FreakAngels are "succeeding" themselves to death and don't have the needed resources. They do, however, have an endless supply of water to fuel KK's bike, and they have Jack and his boat, they should be able to search for more resources/options. Also, as mentioned by someone previously, they have massive, supernatural, mental abilities, and may be able to help Caz aquire and build the equipment she needs to generate more clean water. Certainly, more hands to farm with are never a bad thing, they just need to get everyone doing it (not just kooky Karl).

You can't rebuild a civilization from a tiny selection of people, they will need a bigger gene pool eventually. Assuming the people in Whitechapel are comfortable enough to realize they can survive and now are looking toward the future and rebuilding, they should be finding resources specificly so they can take in more people, or have more children. It was going to need to be done anyway, they just needed to be prodded into it.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123550#Comment_123550 2009-01-31T13:03:52-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Pooka http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=216 Now that everyone's seeing the compassionate side... What if those sick people are planted there by someone else for a rather devious reason, knowing that at least one of them would be too soft ...
What if those sick people are planted there by someone else for a rather devious reason, knowing that at least one of them would be too soft heartened to turn them away?]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123602#Comment_123602 2009-01-31T15:58:45-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Ecksearoh http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=880 This is a scene from episode #1 of the original BBC run of Survivors. Like it says towards the end of the video, they have to relearn all the old crafts and skills, farming, weaving, candlemaking, ...

This is a scene from episode #1 of the original BBC run of Survivors. Like it says towards the end of the video, they have to relearn all the old crafts and skills, farming, weaving, candlemaking, mining, smithing, etc, and they have to be able to teach future generations as well. It's daunting what they'd have to do.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123608#Comment_123608 2009-01-31T16:10:30-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Doctor_Six http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5028 @Pooka Like your thinking...
Like your thinking...]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123752#Comment_123752 2009-02-01T01:56:01-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 frexels http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3507 The woman in the second panel of the first page, is she pregnant or extremely malnourished? FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123761#Comment_123761 2009-02-01T03:16:56-08:00 2009-02-01T08:39:53-08:00 RichardFannon http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2741 @[n]JIN: Good call Everyone's comments on Miki's abilities remind me of something that a mate of mine wrote, and may actually be published before the Singularity: EDITED BY ARIANA BECAUSE NO ...
Everyone's comments on Miki's abilities remind me of something that a mate of mine wrote, and may actually be published before the Singularity:

EDITED BY ARIANA BECAUSE NO FICTION MEANS NO FICTION, NOT EVEN YOUR MATE'S UNPUBLISHED BOOK, THANKS.


Dammit Warren, that last episode makes me want to yank the book that quote's from out of the editorial hell it's been in for far too long and add another chapter to it. In Year of the Zombie. we've been treating raider groups like, well, orcs, and the situation is ethically a lot more complex]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=123911#Comment_123911 2009-02-01T17:25:53-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 HylianHearts http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4696 @frexels- I would hazard a guess at preggo, because she has a line running down from her elly button, which happened to me when I was housing a small human inside. But I can't be sure. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124045#Comment_124045 2009-02-02T03:39:32-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Zaratustra http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3817 Eek scary undernourished people. Clearly we must kill them for their own good. Also before they descend upon us zombie-like on their quest for our precious fluids. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124169#Comment_124169 2009-02-02T10:58:37-08:00 2009-02-02T11:05:11-08:00 Ibis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5507 Cool. Nice to see the story expand to the world outside of the Freakangels' stronghold. One nitpick: it's really unclear which character the "what?" world bubble is coming from on page ...
One nitpick: it's really unclear which character the "what?" world bubble is coming from on page five, panel one. It took me a second to realize it was Caz (or was it Arkady?) saying "what?" and not Miki herself.

Or...wait...I think I get it now. Miki was supposed to be saying "what?" in reaction to the others around her, wasn't she? Carry on :)]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124207#Comment_124207 2009-02-02T12:26:14-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 PenguinGeneral http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5228 Let's be clear, my whole post was about the freakangels need for compassion. The second point I was driving at was that people on the edge of their life can still make a choice over whether or not ...
And please Ellis, don't take the high ground of compassion with me! You made the explosion of someones ribcage look like a Sistine chapel just a few episodes back, the ribcage of one of these poor degenerates your so nobly defending! If you can see the exceptional beauty in that piece you can also be callousness enough to understand that the actions taken by those raiders are unacceptable. You blow them up like Michelangelo and expect me to have sympathy for them after their atrocities, then scoff at me when I don't, Google a little Darwin, and make me look like the insensitive jerk! PLEASE!]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124214#Comment_124214 2009-02-02T12:33:59-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 hahahahahahahahahaha FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124215#Comment_124215 2009-02-02T12:36:30-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 mister hex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4411 I told you he was laughing at us. Hell, HE told us that. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124221#Comment_124221 2009-02-02T12:44:49-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 PenguinGeneral http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5228 Oh, before I forget, THESE ARE NOT VICTIMS UNDER NAZI RULE! They are not people in Europe coerced into compliance with the regime and their likeness to survivors is less like the allies saving them ...
That being said, as this group of folks gathered, they decided to pool their resources to send the most fit to kill and steal from people in similar circumstances! They might of asked to join them before they sent their mortar team! "..Our leader, he has the last of our grenades." This means that their grenades had been divided at least once before, which gives the possibility that they have attacked other groups, ones that are most likely not even as fit as Whitechapel! This Buckland shot at our Kate clearly intending to kill her, after she had already had bested him. Of course he had no idea she would have killed him anyway, but that's another issue. I doubt a gun would have been drawn if Buckland went as one leader of a group of survivors to another, unarmed, asking for assitance, that Miki or Caz would have allowed his request to be turned down, much less the annihilation of a chunk of their group! The FA had already allowed straglers, he would have been heard!]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124231#Comment_124231 2009-02-02T13:12:17-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052 @ PenguinGeneral
]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124239#Comment_124239 2009-02-02T13:28:18-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124244#Comment_124244 2009-02-02T13:36:38-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 You enjoy toying with us all, don't you? FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124250#Comment_124250 2009-02-02T13:51:51-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Doctor_Six http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5028 BAD warren! FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124267#Comment_124267 2009-02-02T14:25:55-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 PenguinGeneral http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5228 I make good points and you all know it. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, you don't wear my chains! I'm glad your enjoying yourself Warren.
I'm glad your enjoying yourself Warren.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124269#Comment_124269 2009-02-02T14:26:30-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 No, he owns the board. We should expect it by now... FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124277#Comment_124277 2009-02-02T14:38:50-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 PenguinGeneral http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5228 Grin and bear it eh? FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124281#Comment_124281 2009-02-02T14:45:25-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124290#Comment_124290 2009-02-02T14:58:26-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Andre Navarro http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1561 What the fuck is going on in this thread? I've been liking Freakangels, but is that even the topic anymore...? FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124292#Comment_124292 2009-02-02T15:00:33-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 I have no idea, but I went looking for some info on these whores of mensa, and it has a wonderful blend of Cthulu, smart chicks, and sex, and all I know is I want all three. Wait.
Wait.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124295#Comment_124295 2009-02-02T15:02:58-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Eddie Current http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3095 And Master, issue 4 is out! issue 4 is out!]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124804#Comment_124804 2009-02-03T23:03:02-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 ZJVavrek http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4243 @PenguinGeneral What's up with all of your exclamation marks? There seemed to be so many in the last few posts. (Then again, this could be a demonstration of my perception bias: If ever I'm ...
What's up with all of your exclamation marks? There seemed to be so many in the last few posts. (Then again, this could be a demonstration of my perception bias: If ever I'm writing out my thoughts, my words are calmed enough by the process that I never really use exclamation marks.)]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124809#Comment_124809 2009-02-03T23:15:43-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 Jon Wake http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1684 I kinda wanted to smack those kids upside the head and ask them exactly what the hell they thought they were going to find out there? FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124888#Comment_124888 2009-02-04T07:34:26-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052 I kinda wanted to smack those kids upside the head and ask them exactly what the hell they thought they were going to find out there? Well, the information that KK and Caz extracted indicated a ... I kinda wanted to smack those kids upside the head and ask them exactly what the hell they thought they were going to find out there?

Well, the information that KK and Caz extracted indicated a large group of people armed with military-grade weaponry, even if it was the "dregs" of an arsenal. For all the 'angels knew, the people they encountered were a scout-strike team going for a quick victory and that when they didn't return, the other people from the group would launch an attack on the town with that same military hardware, very probably killing a lot of Whitechapel natives. So, it seemed best to take the fight to them and flatten them with Freakpowers that they wouldn't need to conceal.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124923#Comment_124923 2009-02-04T10:12:10-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 PenguinGeneral http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5228 @ZJVavrek I was a little worked up, figured a plethora of exclamation points would convey my mood. It does seem like a lot of them though.
I was a little worked up, figured a plethora of exclamation points would convey my mood. It does seem like a lot of them though.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=124987#Comment_124987 2009-02-04T14:31:35-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052 @PenguinGeneral
]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=125106#Comment_125106 2009-02-04T23:56:10-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 glenn ross http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2361 I haven't really been around and reading FREAK ANGELS, but, man, warren, you've really tore my heart here. Thanks. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=128002#Comment_128002 2009-02-13T11:56:19-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052 Agree and this thing continues to be wonderful. FREAKANGELS Episode 0044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=4889&Focus=348752#Comment_348752 2013-02-20T15:55:37-08:00 2013-05-18T15:03:30-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052 I love this thread if only because it's one of the few times I got Warren to laugh.