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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:48:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Willow Bl00</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Life is shifting.<br /><br />How, with all your background and theories, do you think we'll handle this?<br /><br />I know it's a rather vague question, but one I'm interested in, and how you all run with it.<br /><br /><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY" ></a>Here's another TED video to get brain juices flowing. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:56:42 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ I've always had a suspicion that future shock really happens to cultures, not individuals (although, as writers, we've all gotten mileage out of the latter).  <br /><br />The pathology of politicians and other arbiters of authority is that they start thinking of themselves as the static institution, and not as people.  I think people have systems to weather change.  The status quo is never quite as hardy, for simple and obvious reasons.<br /><br />Dieback is something else entirely. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:48:37 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ So do we hope to make adapting a value? We already value Keeping Up and it's just adding to the madness.<br /><br />People either adapt or live in the woods (sometimes both). I do like this idea of Future Shock being a cultural thing though, and will think about it... more responses tomorrow. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:53:42 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ I think adaptation has to be a value, doesn't it?<br /><br />However, I'm okay with living in the woods.  I always fancied being Wise Man Of The Forest. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:55:06 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Warren, you just fancy running around naked with antlers strapped to your head.  That's not exactly the same thing. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:55:47 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ And further to that idea of future shock affecting cultures rather than individuals, I'll throw in something David Milch said last year, just for consideration:<br /><br /><blockquote >“9/11 is big,” Mr. Milch, 61, said to the unusually large crowd in the room. He was lying on the floor — a bad back is his curse — next to a microphone. He was just getting going. “What part of 9/11 is big? If the future continues to reinterpret the past, it could be argued that 9/11 provides irrefutable proof that unless there is some other way that we learn to deal with our technology or deal with our brothers and sisters, it is goodbye as a species. That genie does not leave that bottle.”<br /><br />He went on like that for a while, then said: “A dying culture, intuiting that it is dying, postulates an alternative reality: The Indians postulated in the ghost dance that they were impervious to technology, that when a bullet hit them, they went up to heaven. Does any of that sound familiar?”</blockquote> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:58:58 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ SSSSHHH ARIANA SSSSSHHHH ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:13:56 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ (Mental Note: find out more about TED and Sir Ken Robinson)<br /><br />Future shock happening to cultures... Hmm. Certainly would explain what's been happening in my country of late. There is at least 30% of americans who aren't ready to live in the 20TH century, much less the 21st.<br /><br />I feel like there are 2 basic strains of thought in day to day american philosophies. The inheritors of the prisoners, the political dissidents, the people seeking new opportunities and all the rest who came to America with the idea that it would be a place where other people would leave them the fuck alone and let them do their own thing.<br />   Unfortunately the other strain is that puritanical strain of Americans that are here because they were kicked out of europe for being dour humorless uptight pricks.  Thanks a lot Europe!<br />It doesn't take a genius to see how the history of this country has been written by struggles between these philosophies.  Maybe Culture Shock is the one weapon we can really use to our advantage.   But then again, it seems that culture shock is one of their great motivators.  It creates outrage and fear each time our culture gets dynamic or undergoes a full-on paradigm shift.<br /><br />I'm just a afraid that us peace loving, leave-us-alone types are going to be forced into a culture war.  No fuck that. We are already in one, the only question now is whether it will turn into a shooting war.<br /><br />I fear it will. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:47:37 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Warren's only down with the nudity and the horns if it comes with a free lifetime supply of Red Bull. Adaptation without stimulation is a no-no.<br /><br />:D ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:53:59 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Honestly, after thinking for a bit, I don't know that we'll go into future shock. I think the people that continue adapting technology will fill more specialized roles and break off from society. I've always felt that the progressives eventually win and become conservative, but it seems to me (with NO research, mind you) that the number of people fighting to 'move forward' (subjective term, I know) is decreasing, or that they care less and less about progressing culture as a whole.<br /><br /><em >please</em> help dissuade me of this, or how we might continue to progress. Or are we getting to be at the right saturation of technology? I certainly don't think so...<br /><br /><br />And thank you for the mental image, it's bad enough that I'm not engaging with class - didn't need to start giggling as well. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:09:24 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Well really, who DOESN'T fancy dancing naked in the woods with antlers strapped to one's head.  I mean seriously. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:15:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Willow Bl00</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I don't. There are bugs, and sun, and poison ivy, and twisted ankles.<br /><br />I lie. It sounds lovely. Can they be moose antlers? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:12:14 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ paraphrasing Ken Robison from the video: <br /><br />&quot;public schools didn't exist before 19th century industrialization. then, primary subjects taught were those which would get you ahead at work&quot;<br />but, it's a touch better than child labor, which existed prior to that. the children should thank the machines for the invention of recess as well as pop quizzes and the notion of what we consider &quot;childhood.&quot;<br /><br />--and the rest of this is US-centric, which is Robinson's audience there, so sorry everyone else--<br /><br />&quot;according to unesco, more people will be be graduating than ever before in history&quot;<br />there are also more schools than ever before in history. yes, degrees are devalued, so what (beyond massive individual debt for more grad students)? isn't the gross benefit the increased number of labs' research (paid for by increasing tuition)? more research = more competition = better peer review = improved results. so whether or not you agree with what schools are teaching, the advancement in technology and medicine counterbalances the increased static and number of graduates waiting tables. <br /><br />that greater numbers of researchers in america studying those leftover 19th century primary skills are foreign, many whom eventually move back to their homes and better their sciences might or might not be a bad thing globally. considering america's chief export is arguably intellectual and creative property, the demographic shift in math/sciences is not a major worry yet domestically. from what i understand, today's college enrollment is shifting away from the sciences and into the creative. american, and i think all, schools are good at producing creative and talented people. they give fidgety little bastards something to react to and drop out from, or earn an MFA. simply because we do not label those C and D student's talents &quot;intelligence&quot; does not mean it's disregarded. i've never heard of anyone chastising hollywood directors for their lack of a phd or guitarist their inability to diagram a sentence let alone read music. academically stupid but creative people thrive too. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:30:29 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Ariana</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Honestly, after thinking for a bit, I don't know that we'll go into future shock. I think the people that continue adapting technology will fill more specialized roles and break off from society. I've always felt that the progressives eventually win and become conservative, but it seems to me (with NO research, mind you) that the number of people fighting to 'move forward' (subjective term, I know) is decreasing, or that they care less and less about progressing culture as a whole.</blockquote><br /><br />Of course, if Warren is right, and it's the culture (not the individual) that goes into future shock it's probably of some value to remember the three stages of (biological) shock:<br /><br />Stage One: as low blood flow is first detected, heart rate and respiration increase, in order to maximize blood flow to the most important parts of the body.<br /><br />Stage Two: in which these methods of compensation begin to fail, and the patient becomes confused and disoriented as the brain begins to be deprived of oxygen.<br /><br />And Stage Three: When it's really too late to do anything about it, and the patient dies. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:57:44 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >from what i understand, today's college enrollment is shifting away from the sciences and into the creative.</blockquote><br /><br />I'd say it's true that what America has to offer globally is a country-wide degree in liberal arts.  I know maybe two engineers and about thirty graphic design majors.  Between them there's a history of Helvetica and an argument about kerning, so it's unlikely that they'll be part of a wave of cultural momentum spurred on by technological improvements.  That being said, it's a frightening thing to consider that, though the tech will emerge from some other part of the world, the inspiration will come from America.  2 bots 1 cup, anyone?<br /><br />I don't know that future shock is really something that needs be worried about.  With the prevalence of horrible, horrible things on the internet and the apparently overwhelming desire to see them (speaking from looking at how memes develop and spread), you've got a kind of barrier system where groups of people who are unlikely to be shocked experience the future sporadically, almost as if they're at the front lines of the culture, absorbing the future as it comes and taking the brunt of it, relating the experience to others and preparing subsequent cultural groups for the terrifying possibilities (or probabilities or absolute truths).  I suppose that something like the singularity would be sufficiently powerful enough to cause a cultural inability to cope, though presumably humanity has progressed into such a state that culture itself may even be a thing of the past at that point.  Just fragmented individuals tapped into a Jungian hyper-consciousness transforming into beams of light.  Or, you know, whatever.<br /><br />Antlers and fire-dances and peyote visions sounds like a good alternative to the singularity, though.  Fuck being post-human, I wanna be proto-human!  All guttural glossolalia and Maori war stomping. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:18:11 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>AlephNought</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'll chime in only to say that a persistent idea of late has been the seemingly recent trend of excessive popularity of caffeinated energy drinks (at least here in the states...and, admittedly, I'm not immune to this trend) seen through the lens of social groups operating as a single living entity. Sort of a mass-scale adrenaline fight-or-flight response. Just a random thought. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:38:30 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Adapting is an innate quality, I think. If we couldn't adapt, we'd all be dead by now. Our problem isn't the ability to adapt, it's the want. I said it earlier, but it bears repeating: The human animal is the only animal who dwells on the past. We are comfortable with our pasts because we lived it. The future is unknown, and you know the old saying...<br /><br />I do believe I've just performed an experiment in circular, non-linear logic...<br /><br />Adapting ISN'T the problem with dealing with future shock. The only reason we even have future shock is because of fear...Sad, isn't it? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:27:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Kinesys</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I suspect that the Protean worldview and mindset is an evolutionary jump.  I also suspect that the ability to adapt and change oneself inside is increasingly going to be necessary in the time to come.  But i don't suspect that the people who can't do it are going to go quietly.  After all as Mr. Lizard always: "Evolution takes no prisoners." ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:49:41 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Willow:<br /><br />"but it seems to me (with NO research, mind you) that the number of people fighting to 'move forward' (subjective term, I know) is decreasing, or that they care less and less about progressing culture as a whole."<br /><br />I've been writing and thinking about this a little bit recently.  It seems to me, from some angles, that we're in a period where the idea of forward motion, progression and cultural momentum are viewed as a bit... quaint.  We're in a period where, in fact, there is no such thing as <em >cultural time.</em>  It's the Long Now, to steal a phrase, instead. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:03:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>robb</author>
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			<![CDATA[ are they fighting for progressing culture or just trying to catch up with whatever happened three seconds ago, to gobble up the knowledge before it's obsolete in another three minutes? now that people are gettng accustomed to choosing their own media and scary big aggregate feeds of information all spinning different colors of the same things... they don't have time to process it. who has time for the future? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:03:33 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >adaptation has to be a value, doesn't it?</blockquote><br /><br />It is, but there's the question of direction. We shouldn't try to adapt to the world (understood as a number of life styles to choose from), but try to adapt the world to how diverse we can be (so that any new life style can contribute). I think that was the theme of the talk, that got lost once adapting was put next to 'keeping up' and single-tracked technology-based progress was set up as the ultimate value, reference and beacon.<br /><br />Some people find it hard to adapt? Let them mold their world so that they don't have to adapt to other people's lifestyles. That's how we can progress.<br /><br />Nice, economic explanation of how devaluation of degrees doesn't hinder scientific progress, <strong >robb</strong>. I could add that colleges are offering more and more academic/creative compared to scientific courses, not because they want to help anyone develop creativity, but because the former are much less capital-intensive. Hell, humanities don't need much more than good faculty these days, actually!<br /><br />To sum up: single-tracked, 'forward moving' progress is appealing because it's a clean and simple concept. But, actually, it's a boring and limited remains of Positivism, right?<br /><br />(Sorry, if I sound like and asshole. Blame my English if that's the case.) ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:26:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Kinesys</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Nice, economic explanation of how devaluation of degrees doesn't hinder scientific progress, robb. I could add that colleges are offering more and more academic/creative compared to scientific courses, not because they want to help anyone develop creativity, but because the former are much less capital-intensive. Hell, humanities don't need much more than good faculty these days, actually!</blockquote><br /><br />Sorry. Theater major and i sez Bollocks!<br /><br />Creative programs often get the fuzzy end of the lolipop in terms of funding simply because they ARE funding intensive and it's impossible to quantify it's work in terms of test scores and the other yardsticks that administrations use. ]]>
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			<![CDATA[ Hmm, but would you say there's more and more of creative/academic courses which <em >are</em> funding intensive? ]]>
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			<![CDATA[ Not sure i would. every single theater department i know of is usually forced to scrap like a ratting dog for funding and space with it's music department counterpart. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:51:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>MJSM</author>
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			<![CDATA[ So then, is Future Shock just the default state of a stagnant society? With so much going on within a single culture, subcultures and subgenres and religions and pseudo-sciences emerging every day and what-have-you, is our culture really grinding to a halt as all the Scary New Things gum up its gears? In some aspects of society it really seems this way, while others are violently rebelling AGAINST the future. So I guess my question is, will the Future kill our culture, or will our culture kill the Future? Mainstream society has a history of absorbing rebellion into itself after all, but is there simply too much going on now for it to handle? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:56:42 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Look to the past for guidance. <br /><br />Women's rights: Resisted, then accepted.<br /><br />Civil rights: Resisted, then accepted. <br />(Only two examples, but you get the drift)<br />Every new idea has been resisted, then finally accepted. If not by the all, at least by the majority. Granted, some new ideas SHOULD be resisted. Or at least questioned. I cite the third reich as a major example. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:57:46 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Doctor Pockets</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >I've been writing and thinking about this a little bit recently. It seems to me, from some angles, that we're in a period where the idea of forward motion, progression and cultural momentum are viewed as a bit... quaint. We're in a period where, in fact, there is no such thing as cultural time. It's the Long Now, to steal a phrase, instead. </blockquote><br /><br />Our culture no longer moves through time nor does it reference time for it's narratives. We move through spaces - from surface to surface - and no longer have any connection to the past, nor do we have any interest in it. Likewise, there's no interest in the future, unless its someone trying to scare us into buying into whatever they're selling. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:04:06 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Women's rights: Resisted, then accepted.<br /><br />Civil rights: Resisted, then accepted. <br />(Only two examples, but you get the drift)<br />Every new idea has been resisted, then finally accepted. If not by the all, at least by the majority. Granted, some new ideas SHOULD be resisted. Or at least questioned. I cite the third reich as a major example. </blockquote><br /><br />Almost any kind of social change will be resisted - by nature, change is difficult and frightening, and the status quo is much easier to deal with. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:10:55 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Almost any kind of social change will be resisted - by nature, change is difficult and frightening, and the status quo is much easier to deal with. </blockquote><br /><br />True, but that's only because we think we can control the status quo. But if enough people resist, the status quo can be changed. Needs to be, in my humble opinion. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:26:10 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ MJSM: &quot;is our culture really grinding to a halt as all the Scary New Things gum up its gears?&quot;<br />i think gears, as pretty as they are, aren't the proper visualization of a moving culture, whichever the direction of &quot;progress.&quot; it smacks of predestination and organization if not destiny which is just downright boring if not scary. <br /><br />i always liked the trailblazing, machetes in the wilderness, metaphor. or, less intentional, the twitching antennae/whisker/snake's tongue testing each bit before moving forward or away from what it found. but perhaps it's just silly to even attempt at imagining time and culture as something phsyical and i'll just shut up.<br /><br />trewqh: &quot;Some people find it hard to adapt? Let them mold their world so that they don't have to adapt to other people's lifestyles.&quot;<br />to keep kicking at what Kinesys said earlier about two core american cultures diverging: molding oneself to not adapt is precisely how the US become so antagonistically bipartisan and kind of scary. one doesn't want to listen to the other, so they argue and bitch and moan about how their values (rooted in puritan rock vs maleable outcast) are more american than the others'. i think that's an argument of any ornery teenage nation, it's just that you older countries out there have grown past it and found new problems with your culture's movement to bitch about and claim &quot;the end is nigh.&quot; ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:30:15 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Sure, I can work with other metaphors. So then are the Scary New Things clipping culture's whiskers faster than they can regrow? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:33:54 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ ha, well put. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:45:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Willow Bl00</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >I've been writing and thinking about this a little bit recently. It seems to me, from some angles, that we're in a period where the idea of forward motion, progression and cultural momentum are viewed as a bit... quaint. We're in a period where, in fact, there is no such thing as cultural time. It's the Long Now, to steal a phrase, instead.</blockquote><br /><br />How selfish and depressing. I will now go out and punch the world in its proverbial face.<br /><br /><blockquote >are they fighting for progressing culture or just trying to catch up with whatever happened three seconds ago, to gobble up the knowledge before it's obsolete in another three minutes? now that people are gettng accustomed to choosing their own media and scary big aggregate feeds of information all spinning different colors of the same things... they don't have time to process it. who has time for the future?</blockquote><br /><br />Another conversation I had with another friend (somewhat) recently was about how youtube and gchat allow (and encourage) people to SEND their experiences to other people, rather than SHARE them (experiencing them again and gaining something new out of it). Our world is so interactive now, why aren't we interacting with it more? One of the reasons I like sites like this so much... it's constantly changing to what the people involved want out of it, rather than us taking whatever they give us. Reminds me a bit of <a href="http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/feature/horseshoes-and-hand-grenades-joel-johnson-returnsto-spank-us-all-for-supporting-crap-236310.php" >this article</a>.<br /><br /><br /><blockquote >To sum up: single-tracked, 'forward moving' progress is appealing because it's a clean and simple concept. But, actually, it's a boring and limited remains of Positivism, right?</blockquote><br /><br />So we're not moving forward in ONE way anymore, whereas we've seen our selves as doing that in the past.<br /><br /><br /><blockquote >Almost any kind of social change will be resisted - by nature, change is difficult and frightening, and the status quo is much easier to deal with.</blockquote><br /><br />This is what I meant about progressives always eventually winning (was that on this thread?).<br />I think it's easier now to connect to people who are like-minded rather than cause like-minded-ness in those you're connected to (different types of locality). (if that makes sense... I'm happy to pontificate if it doesn't - tribalism of a sort) ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:47:10 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Doc Ocassi</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I read this quote by Hunter S Thompson today-<br /><br />"The Edge... There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. The others- the living- are those who pushed their luck as far as they felt they could handle it."<br /><br />I know he is referring to something else but I had a thought when I read this. <br /><br />When he refers to The Edge you might imagine a cliff or something static, in the case of modern society it could be something continually expanding, science & energy, if things like this can expand, surely they can also contract. What if it turned and started thundering towards you? The current idea of the future is built on visions of technology and advancement, future shock is just the adaption to a change in how we view the future. In the future the forest may be full to overloading with wise men and women, that is just not our current vision of the future, you can't get a diploma in survivalism, can you?. <br /><br />As to adaption, we can't really help it can we, we adapt to study subjects that may not be our favorite so we can get a job. It may be our biggest resource during any type of future shock, societies crumble under changing times because they are slow to react and built for the present as though it is forever, but people will adapt. As to how depends on the type of problems we face. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:25:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>robb</author>
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			<![CDATA[ i'm not sure if i'm spooked by people who are shocked by and fear the future, i'm spooked by some people's capacity to capitalize on it so intuitively. kurtzweil said something like &quot;i know, to my dream Thing A, i need Technology B. Technology B does not exist yet, so i wrote an algorithm which predicted when it can exist based on Theorist C's law and planned the development of Thing A accordingly. and then i was right and i made a buttload of money&quot;<br /><br />that sort of fortune telling r&amp;d is the exact opposite of future shock. i want that capacity. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:26:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Mark Seifert</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Another conversation I had with another friend (somewhat) recently was about how youtube and gchat allow (and encourage) people to SEND their experiences to other people, rather than SHARE them (experiencing them again and gaining something new out of it). Our world is so interactive now, why aren't we interacting with it more?</blockquote><br /><br />Willow Bl00 -- interesting point, and I think it's partially because when you use stuff like youtube you're vaguely aware of the fact that you're potentially sharing with a large (and unknown to a degree) audience rather than just a few of your friends.  That makes people think of it a little as speaking to an audience from a stage rather than having a conversation in a bar.  Maybe we will all grow into thinking of this stuff in a more interactive way. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:01:40 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>muse hick</author>
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			<![CDATA[ doesn't futureshock pre-suppose that one culture supplants another? isn't change gradual enough to allow absorption? cultures seem to cohabit with each other regardless of the time-segment they are derived from and each has its own shield, or belief system, that guards against the sovereignty of its state being usurped. there also exists within a lot of current sub-cultures devices which allow them to assimilate alternatives in such a way that they pose no threat. there is also the thing that half of the so called culture trends identified today are blown up to a point that they implode before they had a chance to grow anyway -- a process of continual and almost simultaneous expansion and collapse. we push for unified theories in everything and the closest we seem to get is a big toy box with new toys cheeks by jowl with old and forgotten ones. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:34:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>JaredRules</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Might there also be something to be said for the fact that, if you take Kurzweil's word for it, not only are we a a point of rapidly advancing technology, but it's only gonna get faster and faster? I mean, in my lifetime I've gone from playing Oregon Trail on an Apple II to PCs with a Mouse! to laptops to internet to wireless internet to wireless internet on little handheld devices. And that's only 23 years. I think the younger generations are all gonna be pretty open to change and advancement since we've been living in it non-stop. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:55:07 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Willow Bl00</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >isn't change gradual enough to allow absorption?</blockquote><br />That's the question, isn't it? It's like invasive species... all things travel through space and time, spreading for their survival. It's only when it's too abrupt for the things around it to keep up that we call it invasive rather than indigenous. That's how I see future shock, being invasive to our selves.<br /><br /><blockquote >I think the younger generations are all gonna be pretty open to change and advancement since we've been living in it non-stop.</blockquote><br />This is good. I'm excited to see this.<br />However, we're also waiting longer to have children and having longer lives ourselves. Might this trend change if the only way to keep up is to refresh our genes? It's an option, but I think we'll come up with ways to adapt faster.. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:06:32 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ It seems to me that Future shock is mainly the fear of a Majority culture being taken over or over run by a minority sub culture.<br />Mainly, it's a territorial issue.<br />Get off my Christian Conservative lawn you punk ass Liberal Gay Activist!! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:31:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Cat Vincent</author>
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			<![CDATA[ It's a while since I read Toffler, but I seem to recall a symptom of Future Shock for some individuals is to retreat into less complex systems and beliefs - such as fundamentalist religions. Now if there was any of that going on, I'd be worried...<br />I do agree with Warren that whole cultures can (as Judge Dredd put it) 'go Futzy'. <br /><br />Similarly (as suggested by my-wife-the-ex-neurochemist-shaman pointed out), whole countries can also suffer from post-traumatic stress. <br />The example she used was Israel. A country colonised by PTSD-hammered survivors of the camps, raising their kids in an intensely fucked dynamic. (Her family got out of Germany just after Krystallnacht - most of them. The PTSD-in-family reached them too. She had a grandfather whose catch-phrase was 'For this I survived Auschwitz ?')<br /><br />I think a good tool to fend of future shock is having read a lot of SF as a kid and keeping it up now. And having some idea of meme hygiene also helps. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:44:52 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ what do you mean by "meme hygeine?" Like, selective meme transmission? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 06:02:15 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Selective transmission would be a start.  Also filtering out some of the worst by catch phrase before you catch them (anything with MMORPG in the description being a good start) and of course avoiding the sort of people who are prone to contamination.  These are most commonly identified by the large number of "FW:" subject lines coming from their email.  Filter them straight to the garbage bin unless you know they practice safe meme exchange too.<br /><br />Any graphic designers want to make up a nice "Safe Meme Exchange" pamphlet?  One of the nice cartoon ones like the airline safety sheets they put in the seats?  (I looked for an example, but this is the best I could find <a href="http://www.airtoons.com/toons.php?toon=2" > and it's not that funny.</a>  <br /><br />And before anyone asks....I am exceedingly horrible at graphics...<br />Really horrible. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:29:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Cat Vincent</author>
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			<![CDATA[ By 'meme hygiene', I meant having a basic understanding of how memes are propagated, how people imprint on ideas which appeal to them or hit them at times of vulnerability (and the side-effects of infection), being media-savvy enough to spot when someone's pushing propaganda rather than stating fact - and of how to self-correct if a bad idea gets stuck in your head.<br />It's old tech now, but John Lilly's "Programming and Metaprogramming in the Human Biocomputer" is pretty good for this. A bit of Robert Anton Wilson would also go well. Oddly, I'm not sure Dawkins' original thesis 'The Selfish Gene' is actually that useful, though of course it defines the term.<br /><br />Though Lofidelity above has some fine ideas also. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:18:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>m1k3y</author>
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			<![CDATA[ "Change is the only constant" and "Stasis is death", that's what reading the Gaia Hypothesis taught me.<br /><br />This is a generation raised on the NextBigThing.  The cult of the new.  Drooling over the new iPod/iPhone/game/.. that still only exists as vapourware.<br />As soon as it arrives in reality though they're bored, and move onto the next thing.  The next artifact from the future.<br /><br />Other's are re-contextualizing the past [see retropunk], or playing with past (paleo)futures.<br /><br />As Alan Moore said in Steampunk Mag #3 :<br /><blockquote >at this juncture of the 21st century we are more aware of ourselves—we are more aware of our past—than culture has ever been before. Because of the internet, because of our tremendous archives that we’ve accrued, the culture of the past is open to us. And as we look at it, we can see that it’s a fabulous junkyard of ideas that may have been incredibly beautiful—and may have had an awful lot of life left in them—that have been discarded by the relentless forward rolling of culture and our insistence upon new things every day. I think that we’re now in a position where we can look back at the wonderful, glorious remains of our previous cultures—our previous mindsets—and we can use elements from that treasure trove to actually craft things that are appropriate to our future.</blockquote><br /><br />As <a href="http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/?CommentID=2297" >Cat Vincent was saying</a>, it's the Future Shocked that are the problem/impediment/enemy? today.  <br /><br />Bruce Sterling puts it far better than I could:  <a href="http://mp.hills.googlepages.com/BruceSterling-SALT-FutureAsVerb.mp3" ></a><br /><br />Maybe, as in Cory's "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom" we just have to wait for THEM to die off, and then we can create the Bitchun Society.<br />Unfortunately though, they seem to want to take us with them.<br /><br />Or as Bruce was saying, we need to create an even brighter vision of the future.<br /><br />Either way, I think it's future's all around.  Can we call it the Long Future, instead of the Long Now? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:43:46 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ If we're in the future, then where's my fucking jetpack???!!! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:49:14 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>StefanJ</author>
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			<![CDATA[ As true now as it was when it was written eighty two years ago:<br /><br />"Modern science has imposed upon humanity the necessity for<br />wandering.  Its progressive thought and its progressive<br />technology make the transition through time, from generation<br />to generation, a true migration into uncharted seas of<br />adventure.  The very benefit of wandering is that it is<br />dangerous and needs skill to avert evils.  We must expect,<br />therefore, that the future will disclose dangers. <b >It is<br />the business of the future  to be  dangerous; and it is<br />among the merits of science that it equips the future for<br />its duties.</b> The prosperous middle classes, who ruled the<br />nineteenth century, placed an excessive value upon the<br />placidity of existence. They refused to face the necessities<br />for social reform imposed by the new industrial system,<br />and they are now refusing to face the necessities for<br />intellectual reform imposed by the new knowledge.  The<br />middle class pessimism over the future of the world comes<br />from a confusion between civilization and security.  In the<br />immediate future there will be less security than in the<br />immediate past, less stability.  It must be admitted that<br />there is a degree of instability which is inconsistent with<br />civilization.  But, on the whole, the great ages have<br />been unstable ages."<br />--Alfred North Whitehead,"Science and the Modern World," 1925.<br /><br />Emphasis mine. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:47:10 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ @StefanJ - that's brilliant! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:25:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>StefanJ</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Frederick Pohl once wrote a short-short called "Day Million."<br /><br />It's a rant about progress and the future disguised as a love story between a cyborg space man and a transgendered posthuman otter-woman. (Plot: They collide in a hallway, take a liking to the other, and swap virtual-reality profiles for convenient cyber-wanking.)<br /><br />Pohl was stomping through Kurzweil's turf forty year ago:<br /><br />"If she thinks of you at all, her thirty-times-great-great grandfather, she thinks you're a pretty primordial sort of brute. You are. Why, Dora is farther removed from you than you are from the australopithecines of five thousand centuries ago. You could not swim a second in the strong currents of her life. You don't think progress goes in a straight line, do you? Do you recognize that it is an ascending, accelerating, maybe even exponential curve? It takes hell's own time to get started, but when it goes it goes like a bomb. And you, you Scotch-drinking, steak-eater in your Relaxicizer chair, you've just barely lighted the primacord of the fuse." ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:14:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>screaming meat</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Similarly (as suggested by my-wife-the-ex-neurochemist-shaman pointed out), whole countries can also suffer from post-traumatic stress</blockquote><br /><br />Thats a really good point. I wrote an essay (more accurately: a CRAP essay) on Japansese culture and how the atomic bombs effects could be seen right through the country's output: Fear of tech in manga (akira IS the bomb), noise music (merzbow etc) and how japanese culture has changed dramatically since; turning slowly away from traditions and restraint to more technological obsessions (the atomic bomb being <em >literally</em> western influence on Japan) and rebellious ideas. <br /><br />Japan is the occidental gateway to the oriental.<br /><br />Futureshock will only be realised in retrospect, I think. Life is all about adaptation; thats how we and other species can cling desperately to this spinning rock of ours. We mutate to fit the circumstances. Now, I understand that technology is a whole different mess to throw in this pot but isn't technology a continuation of evolution? We are natural creatures therefore what we make is part of nature, right? A nest, a termite hill, warrens (heh) are all considered natural. why can't buildings and robots be viewed as a natural part of evolution?<br /><br />Heres the real problem:<br /><br />Every generation is frightened that it will be the one to face down the coming Apocalypse/Armageddon/Whatever like a weak-hearted businessman on a strip-club floor. But, these 'end-of-the-world' scenarios have been faced before – so many civilisations have risen and fallen (and that is the end of their world, folks) – but more powerful technology has created a much smaller world: A single nuclear/atomic/whatever bomb will reverberate through history - be it environmental (Chernobyl) or cultural (Hiroshima) damage - whilst a bunch of bombs will destroy history.<br /><br />No people… no records… no history… because history is only for humanity and books; both of which burn easily. <br /><br /><br />A world that has pharmaceutical companies making as many cures as viruses is a world bent on it’s own self-destruction.<br /><br />But all this won’t come until we are choked by our own cultural effluence. The constant recycling of ideas which are presented as fresh to each successive generation and moulded from plastics that will never degrade has become a junkyard cage around us. Music (in the charts at least), art, literature etc is regurgitated with more and more frightening frequency.<br /><br />We are choking on our own sense of irony.<br /><br />This is not a conducive atmosphere for new ideas. It’s more like we live (both figuratively and literally) in a state of perpetual anaesthesia (the ‘fluffy’ future). To paraphrase Bill Hicks: Here are 52 channels of ‘American Gladiators’; go back to bed. <br /><br />Elsewhere, our living in a continuous somatic-fug creates fallout that everyone else is paying for. The Capitalist wet-dream is an attractive proposition to anyone who lives outside of the haze. For example:<br /><br />You’re young, bored and stupid: In comes a well-dressed man offering you security and the prospect of cash – you take it.<br /><br />You’re young, bored and starving: In comes a dangerous man offering you a gun and the prospect of cash - you take it.<br /><br />You’re young, bored and angry: In comes a dangerous man offering you a bomb and the prospect of heaven - you take it.<br /><br />I can’t tell the difference anymore. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:43:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Willow Bl00</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Every generation is frightened that it will be the one to face down the coming Apocalypse/Armageddon/Whatever like a weak-hearted businessman on a strip-club floor.</blockquote><br /><br />I don't know it's that we're frightened... I think it's that we aren't any good at planning the Future and so we assume we must be It. Everything has been building up to us, we're the most important thing there has ever been, etc etc. Then again, Gregory Rawlins has turned me into a cynic. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:37:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>screaming meat</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Thats a fair point, willow (can I call you willow?). Each generation is composed of individuals who think they are the stars of their own TV show believing they are followed by some invisible audience. Most of us (very much including me) have difficulty in planning for a future. I, for instance, am unemployed when I could have sorted out a job before leaving my previous position. It's not that I'm dumb (well... actually) or lazy (wait...) it's just that it didn't occur to me (making me BOTH dumb and lazy). ;P ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:03:50 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ It occurs to me that for the average coward, it is simply that one has to either be secure enough in his present that the risks the future poses can be dealt with in a way that is not severely detrimental to his well-being, or desperate enough to try anything to get out of the rut the he is current in (or has been desperate for so long there is no will to even try anymore).<br /><br />The problem seems to be we are somewhere between the two. We, as a whole, are not secure enough in our present to say that if we upset the balance of things in some way it won't have catastrophic effects for us, so we're not willing to go out on a limb and see what we can achieve. In the U.S. we have an economy circling the drain, and a level of pessimism that hasn't been encountered in a long while. Yet, we here still perceive our current circumstance as salvageable, not hopeless, since so recently things were getting better in these areas.<br /><br />I am not sure we will ever be secure enough in our present for the masses to want a leap in to the future, and if we become desperate, the attractive choice will be what will get us ahead quickly so we can live well again, not what will provide for any long term security or growth.<br /><br />I was thinking about the "Greatest Generation" and what their influence really was, and something came to me. This is a generation driven, in the U.S. at least, by two major crisis, the Great Depression and World War II. In response to the desperation brought on by these crisis a number of things happened. In WWII men stood up to be counted and go off to war to fight for their way of life, and women stood to replace at home to support the war effort. The Great Depression was offset by sweeping political reform. Both were aided by the advancement of technology through science. When the crisis were over and it was seen how much these new systems had aided us (the benefits of having women contributing in the workplace, New Deal style political reform, and technology), that generation took it upon themselves to continue to apply it towards building a better future. One of many example, and one of the most important, the Civil Rights movement advocated sweeping political reform to give a large portion of Americans their fair treatment (and rightfully so).<br /><br />It is not possible that all these years later the momentum incurred by these acts of desperation is finally running out, and we're sinking in to another time of desperation until someone can figure out the next big kick in the pants to drive us forward yet again?<br /><br />Just some thoughts on the subject, don't know what they're worth, but they may be good fodder for someone else to run on. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:01:33 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Willow Bl00</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >think they are the stars of their own TV show believing they are followed by some invisible audience.</blockquote><br />I agree with this, and feel that the Internet and blogging have added to this. Journals are no longer personal entries, but meant to be read by those you dictate.<br /><br /><blockquote >We, as a whole, are not secure enough in our present to say that if we upset the balance of things in some way it won't have catastrophic effects for us, so we're not willing to go out on a limb and see what we can achieve.</blockquote><br />It doesn't matter how secure you are - people will not take huge changes unless the potential pros outweigh the cons, which is really part of what I'm getting out of your entry.  I feel that we're using the small bits of tech being fed to us to try to remedy what we still see as issues - but the issues aren't vital ones, they're about keeping up (or is this vital?).<br /><br />(and yes, I respond to Willow. I also respond to bl00, Wil, and sugar-tits) ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:12:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>badger</author>
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			<![CDATA[ The Argentine writer Alan Pauls proposes, "The great theme of the private journal in the 20th century is sickness" and ""those writing great private journals in the last century [i.e., the 20th] did not do so to know who they were, but kept them to know what they were turning into, in which unforeseeable direction catastrophe was taking them."<br /><br />(I'm lifting these Pauls quotes from an essay on Enrique Vila-Matas by Scott Esposito, <a href="http://www.quarterlyconversation.com/TQC10/vila-matas.html" >The Fruits of Parasitism</a>.) <br /><br />Public journals could be an interpretation of a sickness of an entire society. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:27:26 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Doctor Pockets</author>
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			<![CDATA[ The big reason that fear about the future exists is because that is what people are <em >told</em> what to expect from the future. Their images of the future are vague, dangerous, uncontrollable, and surprising. The reality is that people can and do control the future every day - as long as they envison wha they want and plan accordingly.<br /><br />(The vision is the easy part, the planning is that hard part and the part people understand the least.)<br /><br />People aren't sold a positive, ownable vision of the future, so they get scared. And they aren't given a lot of faith that people know what theire doing about planning for the future, so that scares them, too.<br /><br />Above all - expect the unexpected, and plan to be flexible. Adaptation is the only way to survive what the future has in store. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:32:28 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ And bring a change of underwear. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:38:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Willow Bl00</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >what they were turning into</blockquote><br />I <strong >really</strong> like this idea. We are a culture fascinated by our own cycles. We have become self aware - but now can we become self-determining?<br /><br /><blockquote >The reality is that people can and do control the future every day - as long as they envison wha they want and plan accordingly.</blockquote><br />This is what being a Transhumanist is all about to me. I like being human - don't know that I want to be a robot when I grow up (as I've said in the past) - but now I'm more into having a say in what future I'm a part of.<br /><br /><blockquote >And bring a change of underwear.</blockquote><br />..or just forgo the underwear. This is, after all, the Future. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:02:57 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>graphicartistx</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >..or just forgo the underwear. This is, after all, the Future</blockquote><br /><br />Ah, one can hope...Footloose and flaccidness freed... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:37:19 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>screaming meat</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >The big reason that fear about the future exists is because that is what people are told what to expect from the future. Their images of the future are vague, dangerous, uncontrollable, and surprising. The reality is that people can and do control the future every day - as long as they envison wha they want and plan accordingly.</blockquote><br /><br />Definately. We've become seperated from one and other, become too obssessed with our own solipsistic (sp?) realities. Striking has been all but destroyed by credit card bills and mortgages (ugh... sp?); fame (which is a very lonely pursuit) has become the number one preoccupation and the information overload has got everyone scurrying for their tiny bit of - supposed - immortality. <br /><br />Because we have gone too far down the humanist/individualist path it is difficult to get anything changed. No great figures of history ever worked alone (bad example: Jesus had disciples... and a mum). There is so much vested interest in keeping people worried about themselves and their own and of keeping THINGS AS THEY ARE - It is the trap of capitalism. The other trap is that it makes it pretty hard to turn down any other avenues because it wants you to worry about YOUR status, YOUR money, YOUR fame and whatever else YOU need.<br /><br /><blockquote >Desperation is the raw material of drastic change. Only those who can leave behind everything they have ever believed in can hope to escape - Burroughs<blockquote ></blockquote></blockquote> ]]>
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