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  1.  (5310.1)
    So I suppose many of us have already heard Trent Reznor's response to Cornell's new album, but what do you guys think of it? Does anyone enjoy the album, and furthermore will anyone enjoy it in 10 years?

    I'm having a very hard time separating the CC of Soundgarden and Audioslave from the CC that made this album. I'm all for experimenting with your sound (Bowie is great at this), and I even enjoy the occasional pop song, but this album is NUTS.

    (The uninitiated can go here to listen to track samples.)
    • CommentAuthorpoor_boy
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009 edited
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    I didn't know anything about this until I saw your post just now. Some of it sounds potentially interesting (Take Me Alive) while some of it seems pop enough to be played in the background of a cell phone commercial.

    I liked what he was doing in Audioslave a lot more than this, but then again, I'm just now listening to this for the first time. He also has full versions of the songs on <a href="http://www.myspace.com/chriscornell">his Myspace</a> if anybody wants longer previews. (edited to note: his Myspace doesn't have the last two tracks from the Amazon link)
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      CommentAuthorCameron C.
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
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    I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit
    • CommentAuthorcjstevens
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
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    I think Cornell is a great singer.
    This song however is a horrible horrible dirge.
    • CommentAuthorpoor_boy
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
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    Is this the first thing he wrote by himself? I've been listening to this for about four hours now and...this might not be the popular opinion, but what he did here fascinates the shit out of me.
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      CommentAuthornigredo
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
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    Chris Cornell and Timbaland...what do you expect?
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
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    @lingeredshade

    Chris wrote nearly every song in Soundgarden (with some input, obviously), pretty much the whole Temple of the Dog album, has a solo album called Euphoria Morning that I consider one of the 50 best records ever (as well as another, less good solo record), and you can plainly tell which songs were completely his in Audioslave. The man's a songwriting machine. I can't help but assume this album is a cash grab, what with the whole hip-hop thing and the Timbaland. I don't like it, even as a "pop" album, and I hope the backlash from this is more potent than the record sales.

    Everyone bitches that they want their Soundgarden back, I just want a guy that writes good rock tunes and sings the everloving shit out of them.
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      CommentAuthorLokiZero
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
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    I loved Euphoria Morning, and I loved his Soundgarden stuff, but I just couldn't swallow Audioslave.

    I'm going to check this out, I'll probably enjoy it.
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      CommentAuthorBlanche
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
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    Cornell, in my eyes, has the best voice in rock from the last 20 years.

    But this is a gross misuse of said voice, and I think the recoil will reflect that.
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    Bubblegum pop is the music of teenage girls and not a place for washed-up alt-rock singers. If I want to hear derivative pop/hip-hop tracks I’d be better off spending my money on whoever the Neptunes are producing. Lately it seems like Chris Cornell is doing everything he can to prove that his critics are right—hopefully he’ll stop before he’s just another has-been working as a sound engineer.
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    I listened to some of the samples, and frankly that was too much. Passionless and bland.

    This is a talented guy who's gone off the rails quite a bit.



    Will
    • CommentAuthoricelandbob
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009 edited
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    Like most people here, i loved his soundgarden stuff and was a bit "meh" with Audioslave.

    But i'm not really getting his new album at all. In fact i tihnk that Trent is well within his rights to call out Chris on his new "muscial direction". What next? Ministry does Madonna? (actually thats not a bad idea..)

    But has anyone seen the video for "part of me"? It's on heavy rotation on the music channels here in Iceland. I saw this while at the the gym...


    I nearly fell of threadmill. And his hair looks fucking awful.

    What a waste
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      CommentAuthortedcroland
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
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    @rickie

    Actually, Ben Shepard and Kim Thayill wrote music as well, but most of it, especially the latter albums, were written by Cornell. Probably a good 80-90% was him, though.

    I think Cornell works best when he has a band to reign him in a bit. Tell him what his bad ideas are. A producer working with the Chris Cornell won't necessarily do that. That's why the best stuff he's done was with Soundgarden--A bunch of guys playing in a band together. Not a bunch of famous guys getting together to record a record, or a producer nodding and pushing buttons.
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      CommentAuthorPaul Sizer
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
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    Timbaland is a terrific sound maker, and his production skills are top drawer, but his last album was basically a job application for people like Cornell to hear and say "Man, I could sing over that track."

    Timbaland is a victim of his own success, with so much material out there with his "sound signature" on it, he's fallen into the same trap as Stock Aitken and Waterman did in the late 80's, becoming a song factory, guaranteeing a chart friendly sound and becoming the musical equivalent of Pop-Tarts. Early in their production career, SAW did some great work (Dead or Alive, early Bananarama DON'T LAUGH!), but as they made a formula, they couldn't escape it.
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    Huh. It seems Chris Cornell has recorded himself a Britney Spears album. I suppose it's no wonder that the album cover shows Cornell about to smash a guitar to pieces.
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    "You know that feeling you get when somebody embarrasses themselves so badly YOU feel uncomfortable? Heard Chris Cornell’s record? Jesus."

    I think the term Reznor is looking for is "douche chills".


    these songs would be only appropriate for 15 year old girl to sing
    • CommentAuthoradrian r
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2009
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    So much for artists wanting to branch out, huh?

    Funny thing is, this forum is apparently one where people are more open about how they like their comics. But when someone in music attempts to demonstrate the same range that, say, Grant Morrison, Alan Moore, or indeed our host here do...

    Ain't saying that you've got to love what Cornell's doing, but at least give the guy credit for wanting to do something different.

    www.youdothatvoodoo.com -- iconoclasts welcome
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    @adrian r

    I think the difference here is that CC has created an album that we would never want to listen to. The same can be true of comics or any other media. I don't want Warren to "experiment" with his work and create a romance book. And I don't want Ron Howard to create an American Pie-like movie.

    I think the bigger issue is the idea of squandered talent. It's not simply that he made an album that sounds like something Britney Spears would make, it's that we know he's capable of so much more.
    • CommentAuthoradrian r
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2009
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    Personally, I'd love to see Warren write a romance comic. We've already seen his take on detective fiction (Fell), steampunk (Aetheric Mechanics), Saturday morning cartoons (Nextwave), and even documentary (Crecy). Thing being, part of the objection to Cornell's adventure seems to be the fact that he is not singing The Rock for which he is justifiably reputed.

    www.youdothatvoodoo.com -- heresies appreciated
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    @adrian r

    Part of the objection, sure, but not nearly the only reason. A lot of people didn't like Audioslave because it was different from Soundgarden, but I was fine with it. And to go back to my original post, Bowie's always tried to experiment and has had a great deal of success with it. Not 100% success, mind you.

    I don't believe this album has staying power, and I don't believe anyone will be talking about it years from now. And I could care less whether he goes back to Soundgarden or does something completely new. As long as it's GOOD, it doesn't matter.