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    • CommentAuthorvian
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
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    With possible related threads now closed, I think Whitechapel could use a newsthread-style catchall for developments on the grim meathook front. Ain't nothing better than a healthy, soulcrushing dose of pessimism.

    Decided to post this as I read that 1,500 farmers have committed mass suicide in India. Any related history I've read has told me it has never, ever been a good idea to be a farmer, but I discount the feeling that this is another sign of the Earth shrugging and saying, "There's only so many of you I can take." And I've been reading a lot of Lovelock lately.

    So let's all keep abreast with environmental distaster! Tent cities! Technological collapse! The futility of survivalism!
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009 edited
     (5626.2)
    The really depressing bit: the farmer suicides aren't a new phenomenon. Pretty much every year for the past decade or so if the monsoon fails or there's an outbreak of blight you get a wave of suicides amongst Indian farmers.

    Edited to add: Next year may be even worse if UG99 hits the Indian wheat crop.
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    Normally I’m a defender of space programs, but I really can’t believe India is spending money launching rockets with this kind of shit happening like clockwork.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
     (5626.4)
    Well really they're spending money on ICBMs then using them to launch satellites for PR purposes.
    • CommentAuthorheresybob
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
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    So, let's see if I have any pity... uh... nope...

    1) In the last week, I survived the second round of layoffs and now, we're training [people] in India for jobs that my friends used to have.

    2) There's 6.6 billion people... 1500? not even a drop in the ocean.

    I have a very dystopic viewpoint about this: we're addicted to breeding - if we don't control our desire to play with the playdoh fun factory of life, it's going to more of the worst things humans do to each other. I seriously wouldn't mind it so much if India had a labor movement, but listening to "managers" directly "workers" over the phone and it's [] caste dynamic... makes me feel dirty everytime we're on the phone.
    • CommentAuthorpoor_boy
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009 edited
     (5626.6)
    on second thought...nope. don't feel like sharing
    • CommentAuthoricelandbob
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
     (5626.7)
    @Lingeredshade

    Ah that trailer brings me back to my childhood in my neck of the woods... The Orkney Child abuse scandal.... This was at a time when there was a lot of scaremongering in the UK media about scores of Satanic cults that were running paedophile rings involving their own children and children of neighbours. I even remember it on the Cook report at the time..

    alas it turned out that there was no evidence to support any of this. But just becasue you can´t prove it doens´t mean it doens´t exist right?
    • CommentAuthorpoor_boy
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009 edited
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    edited for tmi
    • CommentAuthorkrugar
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009 edited
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    http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/archive/2605/26051202.jpg

    neat little chart about how long the supply of various rare metals is believed to last at the current rates of consumption and recycling.
    • CommentAuthorheresybob
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
     (5626.10)
    What's so disturbing about humans treating other humans like shit?

    @icelandbob
    >alas it turned out that there was no evidence to support any of this. But just becasue you can´t prove it doens´t mean it doens´t exist right?

    It works for Jezus un Gawd, right?
    • CommentAuthorheresybob
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
     (5626.11)
    @krugar
    There's an entire solar system out there including JUPITER to consume... we've got plenty of years. :)
    • CommentAuthorpoor_boy
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
     (5626.12)
    ^ zomg! double post = twice the wisdom

    what about uranus?
    • CommentAuthoricelandbob
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
     (5626.13)
    Nah fuck Uranus. What have they done for us?
    • CommentAuthorE0157H7
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
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    Plan for high-speed rail system that will get me from San Francisco to San Diego at 150 mph unveiled; conservative bobbleheads whine about "government spending" while we spend more money on Iraq than has ever been spent on trains in the history of the universe.
    • CommentAuthorheresybob
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
     (5626.15)
    @[]- ape don't kill ape.

    Grim Meathook Future == Fucking Uranus. Sweeeet.

    A highspeed rail system would be very smart, and because the teamsters would whine, it won't go anywhere...
    • CommentAuthorE0157H7
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
     (5626.16)
    @ hersheybob - It's like everybody sees such a plan and says "this looks awesome, let's cockblock it!"
    • CommentAuthorheresybob
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
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    @Eo - heh. Grim Meathooks -> Fucking Uranus -> HersheyBob - funny

    re: Cockblocking - it's a good idea but if it's not mine, then we need to stop it because it's evil. Can be found under #TeabagApril15

    :)
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009 edited
     (5626.18)
    @Krugar

    "neat little chart about how long the supply of various rare metals is believed to last at the current rates of consumption and recycling."

    This was discussed here when it was first published.

    As I explained at the time, even without invoking extraterrestrial sources, the claims of imminent shortages are probably wildly inaccurate.
    • CommentAuthorRictus
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2009
     (5626.19)
    Rictus wonders if such suicide blooms might open in other professions...

    Could spread like mold.
    • CommentAuthor_paegan_
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2009
     (5626.20)
    Could spread like mold.
    - only if we're lucky.