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    • CommentAuthorRyan C
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
    Anyone else thinking of the "pig's a filthy animal" quotes from Pulp Fiction?
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    @JCEFalconi Hola ! , saludos de otro Chilango!

    Puff, hysteria is getting really high :P , the govs say that there are 120 confirmed deaths, and there are some rumors that the govs are covering how many people is really dying, to avoid the mass panic... the type of rumors " my friend has a friend that works in a hospital..." are starting to fly :P

    The main rumor is that people is dying is more numbers that what we are told, also, that the medical staff is dying (which probably means that the medicines are quite noneffective) ... so... everyone here is getting really scared... i post a picture of myself wearing a protective mask in the picture thread... it was mostly a joke, well, my company is buying mask and filters for all the staff... and our work is mostly done with computers.

    Im getting really scared :P
    • CommentAuthoricelandbob
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
    @ rafagadeviento

    Hang in there man. Get your mask and you can be our own spider jerusalem on the ground...
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
    WHO raises pandemic flu alert level to 4.

    I love how arbitrary numbers and colors become pants-shittingly frightening when in the hands of governments and NGOs.

    Might as run about screaming "LAVENDER ALERT! WE ARE AT CONDITION 7!"
    • CommentAuthorIan_M
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
    @ Icelandbob: I hope not. Spider developed a horrible life-threatening illness...

    @ rafagadeviento: Try the BBC News. They're usually a bit behind the times, particularly regarding Northern and Latin America. Usually 'behind the times' is bad, but in this case it means they have a little more time to filter out the rumours and false leads. And assume that your government is lying to you. They've been lying to us Norteamericanos about shark attacks for decades now, so...
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    @Ian: at what point did I say it couldn't happen here? I'll start worrying when there's a reason to worry. Right now, there ain't, not for most Americans that didn't just get back from a stay south of the border.

    Yeah, this is basically the thread made for alarmist bullshit to get flung back and forth, so whatever. And yes, the situation is awful in Mexico and for all those infected. But as it is, if you aren't already included in the preceding sentence, NO REASON TO GET SCARED. It's the fucking flu. Happens every year. Entire point of the comment about who will likely die from it, and why that's not reason enough to trigger racist backlash because it's no different than any other year. And, oh yeah, how weird about the demographic of who's already been killed in Mexico. Why don't we go ahead and compare that, though, to the demographic of infected who've already died in America...? Oh, wait, no, that number doesn't exist because it hasn't happened yet. 40 confirmed cases now, still no deaths. Of course there will be, but it's not going to be nearly as bad as we've seen in Mexico. And whatever it is, in all likelihood it will still show nothing statistically significant in difference than every tally the flu takes every year.

    If shit gets worse, shit gets worse. Just don't act like it's already there and already worth freaking out about. Is all I'm saying. Unless you get off on living in fear (again, possibly the point of this thread...?). I hear asteroids can hit the planet and also, sometimes planes crash. I also get in my car daily and drive on the Interstate at speeds in excess of 70 mph, and hear that can be dangerous. Every year I skip getting a flu shot but know there's a chance I could get the flu. Every year. And I also know, every year, that people that get the flu could get terribly unlucky and end up getting killed by it. Every year. And yet, I don't worry about asteroids, I love traveling by plane, I speed every single day, I even get impatient when I'm in the fast line behind someone that isn't speeding (but probably technically driving "safer" than me), and I still won't be getting a flu shot this year, unless I see compelling reason to, which I haven't yet. Despite the fact I live in a big city with a big airport in a state with confirmed cases of swine flu.

    Crazy how happy I am with this sort of existence.

    @mrarey: obviously 9/11 and the flu aren't comparable as motivators for violence, but, maybe, just maybe, if shit hits the fan, yeah, I can see the backlash. But that's my point, I wager it never even comes close to that.
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    ...that said? I'll make sure and let you all know when I'm infected with a particularly ironic strain of the flu and on my deathbed so we can all get in a good chuckle.
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    Well, if there is a good signal that things are not really that bad, is traffic, i take me 2 hours to reach my home, as usual (#$%%&/$"%$%&$%&$% traffic), and people say that Mexico city is like "ghostown" ... i laughed a lot thinking in that, while i was circulating at 20 km per hour.

    @ian_M i take you counsel and i found a couple of nice and scary reports, he he he.
    Mexico suspected flu toll soars
    • CommentAuthorE0157H7
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
    My math professor kicked anyone that she considered to be a risk out of class today, and the air was thick with the smell of antiseptic hand sanitizer. People in California are fucking crazy, and I'm staying home tomorrow.
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
    Overheard on local radio station, a doctor from Northwestern Hospital carefully explaining to an all but panicking woman that you cannot get swine flu from eating pork.

    Stupid however, is fucking terminal.
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    Big reason why I expect Mexico's large numbers (even potentially low-balling the true figures) aren't really much reason to assume the worst about swine flu as it spreads to other countries: Mexico's been handling this outbreak the way a more incompetent version of the Bush administration would.
    Despite an annual budget of more than $5 billion, Mexico's health secretary said Monday that his agency hasn't had the resources to visit the families of the dead. That means doctors haven't begun treatment for the population most exposed to swine flu, and most apt to spread it. It also means medical sleuths don't know how the victims were infected — key to understanding how the epidemic began and how it can be contained.
    It remained unclear where and how the epidemic began, how it has spread, who it has killed or how fast it is growing. And the government has yet to take some basic steps critical to containing any outbreak, such as quick treatment of people who had contact with the victims. In the town of Xonacatlan, just west of Mexico City, Antonia Cortes Borbolla told The Associated Press that nobody has given her medicine in the week since her husband succumbed to raging fever and weakened lungs that a lab has confirmed as swine flu. No health workers have inspected her home, asked how her husband might have contracted the illness or tested the neighbors' pigs, she said.
    Not exactly the best way to handle an outbreak. I almost feel bad for Cordova.
    • CommentAuthorRictus
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2009
    Rictus is not afraid of swine flu.

    His town will not become a hot zone full of bloated fly-blown corpses.

    Rictus knows he is not that lucky.
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2009 edited
    Um ... this is a bit perturbing.

    Swine Flu Container Explodes on Train.

    Be more careful with your virus samples and potentially explosive materials, guy!

    edited for ganked html
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2009
    Actually it was the fascist pretzels on that page that caught my eye. Promotion for the Berlin premiere of "The Producers"(!).
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    *Cough Cough Cough*
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2009
    Some Fear-Mongering from AP:

    WASHINGTON – Two million dead. Hospitals overwhelmed. Schools closed. Swaths of empty seats at baseball stadiums and houses of worship. An economic recovery snuffed out. We're nowhere close to what government planners say would be a worst-case scenario: a global flu pandemic. But government leaders at all levels, and major employers, have spent nearly four years planning for one in series of exercises.Their reports, reviewed by The Associated Press, and interviews with participants paint a grim picture of what could happen if the swine flu gets severely out of control. A full-scale pandemic — if it ever comes — could be expected to claim the lives of about 2 percent of those infected, about 2 million Americans.

    I like that 2 million dead Americans (forget you foriegn godless heathens) is just one sentence from empty sporting events. Not the Yankees! NOT THE YANKEES!

    And this picture to go along with it.

    The US media is treating a flu outbreak like an ARG for a Zombie movie.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2009
    Man, Operation Baa Ram Ewe is hardly needed...
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    • CommentAuthorJCEFalconi
    • CommentTimeApr 28th 2009
    Hey there rafaga de viento.

    it's weird knowing you're in the city where the flu is most prevalent, IN the age bracket that's most vulnerable. But nothing left to do but wait, or make some hilarious youtube videos using a pork-nose as a prop and a subway station as the setting.

    EDIT: I have been beaten to death by cops.
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    Bruce Sterling has a good perspective: @Wired

    AIDS is a real pandemic, this new flu is not.