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      CommentAuthorAdam
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
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    @razrangel Luke was the traitor. His main job, at least early on, seemed to consist of sitting in the street without pants on, crudely inserting complex Philosophy into the minds of attractive ladies whilst they slept. Perhaps Chief Philosopher was his job, mostly as a way for the rest of them to get real work done without him lending a helping but unskilled hand to the things they're good at.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
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    Luke isn't a traitor. Luke is a realist. The vast majority of us, put in the situation the freaks are in, would be Luke. We are not good people.

    Well, I'm not anyway.
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      CommentAuthorAdam
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
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    Ehhh, I identify with Connor more. Maybe Karl, but mostly Connor. I've got this stupid "guardian" complex going on that makes me pick up the occasional stray, too, against better judgement...
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      CommentAuthorrazrangel
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009 edited
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    Was Luke the one they killed? Arg... I'm going to have to look this up. I don't mean the wastrel that's still hanging around, I mean the one who was trying to control others and so was chased out (and perhaps killed).

    Ah. I meant Mark. What did he do, besides exploit his powers to control people en masse? Luke is supposed to be a genius but it comes out as asshole. The others haven't tossed him out, yet. So presumably he's still supplying...whatever he does/has.
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      CommentAuthorAdam
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
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    Well, its not really known that they had "claimed" their jobs by the time Mark was sent packing. Its only just very recently that they've decided to accept that Whitechapel is their Home. At the time that Mark left, things may have still been too transient to bother assigning roles.
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      CommentAuthorrazrangel
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
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    They may have gravitated to their roles and saw where all their knowledge/resources led each, but they seem to be suspiciously well suited to each task. I mean, Kaz is a brilliant engineer and no one else comes even close. KK has some overlapping skills but her talents in mechanics are independent and no one touches them. They didn't assign them by a show of hands, it was what each 'Angel already had an outstanding aptitude for. And it seems like that whatever gave them the package selected the individual 'Angel for a specific task/discipline. How or why remains to be seen. But Mark would have had his well before the deluge (if I'm correct).
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      CommentAuthorJay Kay
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
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    Here's a question I just thought of, looking at Alice's new t-shirt:

    In this near-future world, the flood pretty much destroyed everything, leaving only very scant electricity fueled by one of Kaz's cells, yes?

    If that's the case, then how are they able to create such pretty, custom T-shirts with their own logos like that?
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    Find an old shirt, wash it, spray through a cut stencil. Not rocket science.
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      CommentAuthorAriana
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
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    JonCarpenter: That was quite a scary episode in one way - the lamp comment was chilling - would we collectively be so crap after a fall of civilisation? Really? We'd not get it together to put lights up, and just be reduced to a feral existence eating dead rabbits? I don't want to believe that, I don't believe that, but what if it's true?
    DarkKnightJared: how are they able to create such pretty, custom T-shirts with their own logos like that?

    So... yeah. Totally true. Screwed like whoa.
    • CommentAuthorarf
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
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    I first came to this strip just as Vol 1 ended. I read it right through in one go, so something's working!

    However, as a first time contributor, can I utter one teensy gripe about this episode?
    In the first panel our resident genius, Kaz, appears to have the panels facing away from the sunlight.
    (But it still works, so maybe she *is* a genius!?)
    Sorry if I've just ruined the whole episode now, but It might explain why Whitechapel was dark, I suppose.

    Also, her water cracker would produce twice as much hydrogen as oxygen, but I'll put that one down to learning curve.
    (As to the man with the stomach ache... well, where did those 'chikkens' come from?)
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
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    The best thing to be said about the week was "I lived through it."

    And Freakangels. Lotsa tech stuff. It's great and all but I'm more interested in chickens and murder. (Two great tastes that taste great together!) And I don't like Caz. I don't HATE her but she's not my favorite. More chickens and murder!

    What DOES Luke do? What's he good for? As Warren helpfully pointed out and as my learned roommate would say, he's the "escape-goat." (Seriously- I've had to correct him on this several times. But I always chuckle at the image "escape-goat" creates. Oh well. He's a good guy but too much book-learnin' ain't his sin.)

    What did Mark do? I'm voting soldier. (And I realize this is not a democracy and I don't get a vote. BLAM!) And Luke was his buddy. And now that the Freakangels are creating, not destroying, soldiers are surplus to requirements. Why do they need GREAT FUCKING GATLING GUNS and pistols if they have "the Package", whatever THAT is? Couldn't Arkady teleport out and fuck up any intruders? Do their powers have a range limit? If so, how did they destroy the world? (Combination of minds being more powerful has been mentioned.)

    Paul, amazing work again. And it's Warren Ellis, man. How can it be not good? Also, Ariana, Queen of All Correct-Thinking Humans. And let's hear it for Big Bill Christensen, Raygun Proprietor and Publishing-Type Guy! Kudos, I say. Kudos! Not Brickbats!
    • CommentAuthorE0157H7
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
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    Bulk electricity storage? Make way for the FreakTazer. Less dramatic than a giant steam machine gun, but causes less of a ruckus.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
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    I like the way that Alice touches Caz's shoulder towards the end. Despite her knowledge of what the Freakangels can do, they don't scare her out of treating them as people.
    • CommentAuthorcjtremlett
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
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    I'm guessing Mark had some sort of leadership or tactics role. In Arkady's flashback when they were hiding and she brought up them doing the equivalent of knocking the world down so it couldn't get up, Arkady says "I wish KK and Mark would get here" though they're not the only FAs not in the room at the time. Miki noted when they were bringing the refugees in that other FAs look to KK for leadership in some ways. Their roles definitely have been more defined since they got to Whitechapel. Kait said something about them all deciding what jobs they would do when they got there, in the bit where we first see her. But most if not all of them went with defined roles that had something to do with their personalities and what they'd been doing before. Little Kait in her own flashback always was a detective/cop type. There have been comments about Caz tinkering with things well before the world ended. When Connor was describing the rest of the FAs to Alice, he described Luke as being intellectual and spending too much time up in his own head. It doesn't sound like he was exploring the package the way Arkady does, but it does sound like some overlap between their talents/jobs/roles. With Mark, we know less because he's been gone a while, but given what we have heard, and the way he set up Alice as a trap, he does have some planning/tactics type of skills.

    Of course, this speculation is subject to change with future information.
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
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    @ cjtremlett - Hurm.

    One mind can change two, two can change four, four can change six, six- twelve. BOOM. And the World gets destroyed.

    And, at first, they didn't realize they did it. At first. (Or did they?)

    More and more, Mark was a soldier*. And KK was his girl. And that's why she's shagging boys from Lambeth Road. And she doesn't know Kirk and Karl had something to do with Mark Going Away. (Or does she? This IS Warren Ellis we're dealing with. He gets paid to make things up.)

    *-AND LUKE WAS HIS BUDDY. And that's why Luke's the escape-goat. Tarred with the same brush.
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      CommentAuthorstsparky
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
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    I like having hope. I wonder if some poor rescued sap has been made into a remote controlled killer re last episode?

    Radio Angel sounds nice.
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      CommentAuthordarkpinky
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
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    spent three days sick/hiding in bed, then found out that my least favourite housemate (who's been stealing my food and leaving spots of blood on the wall of the bathroom we share) has been told to clear out. two more weeks and i can relax :)

    technical question, how do the bubbles know which tank to go into? in case i'm ever in the same situation and that's the only problem i've got left.
    • CommentAuthorSavantis
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2009
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    @misterhex

    What DOES Luke do? What's he good for?


    I think he probably the best for getting into people's minds and messing around with the wiring inside. Probably influencing people subconsciously or through their dreams.

    However, I don't think the Freakangels are keeping him around because they need his help, they don't really seem to care if he is around or not. Having him around is good in a way - at least they can keep watch on his "evil deeds" and repair anyone he's damaged.

    I don't like him around, he is too self absorbed to the point that he doesn't care who he hurts to get what he wants. =(

    I'll vote soldier for Mark too! Some sort of military strategist. The Freakangels probably needed to defend themselves a lot in the past. ^_^
    • CommentAuthorScrymgeour
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2009
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    @ Dark Pinky.
    Basically two charged pieces of metal are placed in water. One has a positve charge the other (unsurprisingly a negative). As Hydrogen ions are positive they are attracted to the -ve and you get the rest, The bubbles will therefore form at each Cathode (or anode) and rise upwards to its own discrete canister.
    Im not sure what charged metals you should use though. I think its zinc and something else. Or maybe carbon, or iron, or... (studied this about 7 years ago so im a little hazy)

    That was a chemistry lesson in two lines but it gives the idea.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2009
     (5677.40)
    No sleep going on three nights.

    So questions may be even dumber than usual:

    1. I would've thought the electrolysis would work even better with salt water due to the higher conductivity rather than needing to use desalinated water.

    2. come to that, how are they desalinating the water in the first place?

    3. Wouldn't it make more sense to burn the hydrogen in a modified internal combustion engine to run a conventional generator? Fuel cells are fussy and heavy and generally require Platinum-group metal catalysts and/or operating temperatures of several hundred degrees.