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      CommentAuthorelwood
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
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    Looking for some suggestions here.

    I was recently reading Queen & Country Definitve edition, and was really enjoying it. Made me realize how much I liked Loosers and how much I am currently enjoying Infinite Horizon.

    Now I read a lot, and have been for years now. I have a ton of titles. So, anymore I find I read a lot of poor titles just to read something new. On the other hand, if I am just now getting around to something that I am enjoying as much as I am Queen & Country, there must be more that I have missed.

    Any suggestions on some military/spy titles I should check out? I am thinking I have been enjoying Ennis's Punisher, the only Storm Watch Team Achilles because of my enjoyment of this genre. I can think of Sleeper that might fall into this as well. Recently I enjoyed Shooting War.

    Any help?
    Thanks
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    god, i loved the losers so much. i am infinitely happy that dc didnt cancel it, considering its numbers at the end were ridiculously low.
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      CommentAuthorRandy74
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
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    As far as that spy/military stuff..

    The Programme is very good frm Wildstorm


    Army @ Love and The Other Side were good...

    Nothing beats the old EC War comics though
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      CommentAuthorJess
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
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    I'm not entirely sure this is the kind of military title that you're looking for, but give Safe Area Gorazde a look on Amazon.
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    the programme looks fantastic, but a mini that long forces me to....(oh no!) wait for the trade. i never do that, with the exception of 100 bullets, but that series just forced me to do so for some reason.
    • CommentAuthorElohim
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
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    .303? I've not read it, but y'know...

    Garth Ennis' War Stories are really rather good.
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      CommentAuthorWinterman
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
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    You might want to check out INFINITE HORIZON from IMAGE. It's in its second issue and it's kick ass.

    here's a little news byte
    NEWSARAMA
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    Has anyone taken a look at ACC studios comics? They publish a little gastrointestinal bacteria called Liberality which features Sean Hannity as a war torn Cyborg saviour and Libarro World. Gruesome little things that are good for a laugh.
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      CommentAuthorChrisSick
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
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    If you're fitting 'espionage' under the umbrella of military, which I guess you are since Queen and Country was mentioned, I'd recommend Ennis' take on the Unknown Solider. I read it as a trade paperback borrowed off of a friend five years past, so I couldn't tell you if it's still around and in print. Ennis' take is a very dark, violent ride through the CIA's greatest hit in the middle of the century through Vietnam.

    Which reminds me, anyone know anything about old James Bond comics? I'm rereading the series of novels and remember them being mentioned on diepunyhumans back years ago, comic strips based on the first few books that were collected in trade editions. I was curious if anyone could recommend them as compared to the noels or not, this thread seems like as good as place as any to ask the question.
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      CommentAuthorpomfelo
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
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    @Viral_Progenitor

    Oh god. The first time I saw Liberality, I thought it was ironic. I think it was around the moment President Hillary disbanded the army in favor of the UN and invited Osama Bin Laden to speak in New York that I realized the abomination was real. For me, that went past good for a laugh and went to good for a laxative.
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      CommentAuthorUnsub
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    Another Vote for Ennis's war stories. Fantastic soldiers eye view of many wars.

    I hope Micah comes back "Team Achilles" was great.
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      CommentAuthorelwood
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
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    Thanks for all the suggestions.

    I am reading Infinite Horizon, and I agree, it is very well done. Other Side was a great book, really good art. I enjoyed Ennis's War Stories as well. I am reading Army@Love in trade as well, went through the first one and thought it was good.

    303, honestly, I thought was one of the best comics I had read in a long time. I loved that book. Garth Ennis at his very best. I adore it, think it is his best work ever.

    I think I will get the Programme in trade. As for the EC War Stories, thats a great suggestion. I have never read them before, and have been meaning to pick up the EC Archive titles. Safe Area Gorazde does look worth picking up as well.

    The Unknown Solider title sounds worth tracking down as well.

    Thanks for the suggestions. Open to more if anyone has them.
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      CommentAuthorWinterman
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
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    SPECIAL FORCES, Kyle Baker. Awesome.
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    (Chris Sick -
    I have a collection of the James Bond newspaper strips. It isn't one of the book adaptations, as there was original material as well. I think it's pretty well done. Has the same feel as the Fleming stuff.)

    As far as war comics go, I think the Showcase editions of Sgt. Rock, Unknown Soldier, the War that Time Forgot, those are all awesome. A little silly. And espionage - have you already read Desolation Jones?
    • CommentAuthorGuy
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008 edited
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    Almost anything by Ennis:
    -Bloody Mary (has a greater Englishman than the Major ever been seen? Also features a New York Sex Cult.)
    -Unknown Soldier (very dark, very good)
    -War Stories
    -Enemy Ace
    -Hitman (mini series involving the SAS and another where Hitman and Natt invade a small African country)
    -.303 (though the conspiracy is somewhat silly. Characters are great though and the death wish fantasy mirrors Moore's on Tony Blair in "Albion".)
    -Punisher (two mini-series in 'Nam but Ennis only wrote one).
    -Adventures in the Rifle Brigade
    Theres more but its easy enough to find.


    DMZ is also pseudo military and pretty excellent so far. The guy who did Scalped did something with Vietnam but I haven't read it. Ostensibly pretty good.

    However if you really want war comics then you've got to the source: 80's war comics. Sure the Yanks had Blazing Combat, Unknown Soldier, GI Robot, Sgt Fury/Rock and the Howling Commandos. But Britain was the dogs bollocks. The best titles are:
    -Commando (still printing today, generally poorer than the rest because each one was a stand alone issue. Meant you got some humdingers and some naff ones.)
    -Warlord (not all war but enough. Fairly nice stuff but I haven't read too many.)
    -Victor (one of the two best, absolutely brilliant. Not all war with some great characters like Alf Tupper: the Tough of the Track but 90% war. Mix between actual stories and re-telling in comics format of actual battles.)
    -Conqueror (not many of these around, I've only got one annual but its got some great stuff, its a mix of real history with illustrations and comic strips. Lots of the illustrations are from Look and Learn)
    -Battle (the mutts nuts, the hail Mary and anything else you want to call it. All the best stories including Darkies Mob and Charleys War, who have to be amongst the best comics ever written. Lots of other stuff though: D-Day Dawson, Bootneck Boy, They Can't Stop Bullit, Major Eazy, Rat Pack, Johnny Red.)

    Be warned though the comics are not particuarly PC on some levels. If you read stores featuring the Japanese you're going to get some lines like, "Eat that you slant eyed yellow dwarf." Its not common and might not appeal to all but to be honest its pretty true to life, the Japanese were not well liked by the Allies (as in its hard to like the people who butchered your company, shot your wounded, executed POW's and so on.) Most of the 80's stuff is available from eBay pretty cheaply and there are a few fan sites around. Well worth finding and they're pretty cheap too.

    Edit: Few bits I forgot.
    -Lost Squad is about Yanks and a Brit in WW2 taking on the occult might of the 3rd Reich, very tasty and I love Robinson's art.
    -Pistolfist Revolutionary: I've only got one issue and then I stopped. Looks like its about the American War of Independence. What it feels like is a safety blanket: the main character is a black patriot, all the redcoats are villanous automata there to get shot etc.
    -Special Forces (Klye Barker): He's writing a fantasy to condone and/or reinforce his beliefs. If you're pro-Iraq war you'll hate it. Hell, I'm anti and I thought it was tripe.
    • CommentAuthorlex
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008
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    Check out 'Forever War' ('La guerre éternelle' in original french) by Haldeman and Marvano.
    It is a science fiction graphic novel about Vietnam, and by far the best I've ever read. I am not sure whether it's easily available in the US, but I've seen it listed at Amazon. It's a trilogy, so try to get a collected version or all three volumes in one go.
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      CommentAuthorRandy74
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008 edited
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    Don't forget Garth Ennis's

    FURY
    FURY : PEACEMAKER
    &
    ENEMY ACE

    and yeah 303, is among his best works..its a really good story witha kick
    • CommentAuthorDuggan
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008 edited
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    Hi-
    I'm glad that you guys that are reading THE INFINITE HORIZON are digging it through the 2 issues that are out - # 1 is available reprinted this week by the way - and 3 should be out late in February.

    re: war comics -

    The old EC books that are being reprinted by Gemstone are fantastic - TWO FISTED TALES has art from Wally Wood, Davis, Severin, Johnny Criag - not every story is as great as the next, but worth a read for sure.

    I LOVED the Ennis one shots from DC the last few years - the David Lloyd one in particular.

    Don't forget about the Azzarello/Kubert Sgt. Rock

    Also, not a comic, but if you're into war stories DISPATCHES by Michael Herr is almost required reading.

    edit: It's in my pile to read near the top - but don't forget Mr. Ellis' CRECY
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008
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    Sup Duggan! Loving the Horizon.
    • CommentAuthoreggzoomin
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008
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    Agree with all the choices listed here, having read a majority. One that has neither been read by me nor mentioned here is Doug Murray'a "The 'Nam" - was it actually any good? I remember seeing ads for it in Dragon's Claws #1 (first comic I ever bought, back in '88) but never did read a single issue - was it any good? The Wiki entry suggests it was kinda limited in scope by Marvel, being as they couldn't swear or address drug use.