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    ...Because there is no other difference between the areas than the amount of Lithium in the water.

    Smells of bad science from just the reporting of it.
    • CommentAuthorPooka
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2009
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    Gah...well, this just reinforces my habit of drinking bottled water...
    You may think it's silly...bottled water is usually no better than tap water...but I live near a toxic waste dump, and our tap water apparently gives fifty percent of males here prostate cancer...lovely eh ?(this is the same toxic waste dump that the Blue skinned people of local legend live...people i know have claimed to see them...i haven't yet...but i don't get out much and I'm sure they don't either)

    mmmm lithium...i don't think it's a good idea to put a med in water...there's way too many issues with side effects and other adverse reactions...plus...that's the kind of "We know what's good for you" bullshit I hate about the government anyway...
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    A very good podcast interview with an environmental engineer about how water is treated and what's in your tap water: linky

    Always best to know what you're talking about before you talk about it :)
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    This screams junk science. Given that a therapeutic dose of lithium is only slightly lower than a lethal dose, it seems unlikely that trace amounts in drinking water would have a real impact on mental stability or mood. There also seems to be no legitimate reason to assume that “there may be a cumulative protective effect on the brain from years of drinking this tap water.” as lithium is excreted from the body in people with normally functioning kidneys and thus should not accumulate enough to make an impact across a population.
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2009 edited
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    @Paul

    My dad works for my hometown, and part of his work was filtration/treatment. Pretty much all they did was filter it, add some chlorine and fluoride. There's not much necessary beyond that. It depends from place to place, but most communities are held to strict federal, state, county, and municipal guidelines. Samples are collected and tested daily, and sent off at least weekly to the state EPA. It's quite controlled, and most communities take water purity very seriously.

    As a former Pepsi employee, distributing Aquafina, the only thing they really do to tap water is filter/purify it further. And add some salt for flavor (as is mentioned in the podcast.) There's a definite use for bottled water, like camping, or if you live in a rural area with extremely hard water, etc. My experience and knowledge doesn't speak for all companies, of course, but considering Aquafina is one of the largest water brands in the world, I figure I could speak for something.

    Personally, I don't really care one way or another. Water is water. If you want to pay someone to put it in a bottle for you, that's your prerogative. I don't really blame, say, Pepsi and Coke, for selling a product that people want and in some situations need. They don't really push the "it's better than tap water!" angle as much as the "designer" water folk. (I don't consider Vitamin Water or Life Water to be "water"--too much crap in it. That's straight up marketing, and it's one of the reasons I'm glad to be rid of the beverage industry.) If people are stupid enough to part with a giant pile of money for water without a logical reason in a developed, industrialized world, let them.
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    Blue skinned people...?
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2009
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    I work in a grocery store. We have an aisle for water. lots and lots of water. From Portugal. France. Iceland. Icebergs. Canada. America. The Slovak Republic. (Seriously.) Fiji. Japan. The tap. This is leaving aside the flavored waters, the fizzy waters, the mineral-infused waters, not to mention sports drinks and energy drinks (Our Fearsome Leader's Red Bull, also available in sugar-free. We have a big sale on JIMI HENDRIX ENERGY DRINKS yes, such a product exists. Aisle five.) It's a good twenty-odd feet of shelf space, six and a half feet high. Of water. In all its many guises.

    Some of the fancy ones are four, five dollars a bottle. A smallish bottle. For WATER.

    And I wish to know more about the blue-skinned people as well.
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      CommentAuthorFilmFan
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2009
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    @ Warren, @ Pooka

    "Blue skinned people...? "

    I was thinking the same thing, was gonna make a smurf joke but went back to uni work instead.
    • CommentAuthorlooneynerd
    • CommentTimeMay 1st 2009 edited
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    @Warren

    They're a real Kentucky legend: The Fugates Clan of Appalachia. Inbreeding and genetics have given many member of the clan blue-colored skin.

    @Pooka

    You should come a few miles north. The Northern Kentucky water district is one of the cleanest in the US, and normally comes in the top ten of "best tasting tap water" polls! And they can dope me all they want... the alcohol will just kill it, yes? :D
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    That blue-skinned person link has finally answered the question I had about a blue baby I had to transfer - now I know what may have caused it.

    (The midwives who delivered it didn't have a clue)
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    Local legend aside, if you need to be blue on the cheap you could always try some colloidal silver in your water
    • CommentAuthorReymar
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2009
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    I'm no expert but being a fish owner the tap water in California (not sure if it was a statewide change) now kills fish, whereas it used to be tap water was fine for fish owners. I'm sorry but if the chlorine level now kills fish, I'm really not comfortable drinking tap water, even if it isn't high enough levels to kill me I'm sure it has some untested adverse affects. Oh and the water filters you attach to your faucets, they don't do jack to the chlorine, filtered water still kills fish (friendly warning to potential fish/amphibian owners). I don't need flouride, I brush my teeth and if I wanted chlorine in my water I'd bottle it from my neighbors swimming pool....
    • CommentAuthorSolario
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2009
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    Yeah, most of the American tapwater I've tried has tasted really weird.
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2009
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    @Reymar Two things: first, we don't put the dissolved chlorine from the water directly into our bloodstream, as fish do. Water runs through a very complicated and powerful digestive system when we drink it. I mean, hell, our stomachs are full of hydrochloric acid. Second, a fish is significantly smaller than a human being. Toxicity levels and lethal doses are therefore completely different. If you're worried about your fish getting killed from tapwater, they make treatment for it. I don't exactly know what it does, but it takes the chlorine down to a safe fish level.

    Really, though, most of the tapwater in the world comes from either a river or a well, and neither one of those are safe (or taste very good) straight out of the ground without treatment and disinfection. Given a choice, I'd probably drink charcoal-filtered water out of a tap long before bottled water because it's much, much cheaper. But really, I don't even drink that much water. I just want it clean so I can cook and wash dishes and myself without worrying about catching some disease.
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    Blue Skinned People
    -Excess of certain metals, such as silver (oral colloidal silver), can cause people's skin to turn blue (or blue-gray), among other things. So it is a possibility, esp. if the toxic water is high in it.
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      CommentAuthorwilliac
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2009
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    While visiting Appalachian relatives as a child, I saw a blue person. This was before I'd heard of the condition.

    And no, no one believes me.
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    A few Fugates and distant relatives of Fugates still live near Hazard, Kentucky, on the edge of Appalachia. I know a couple through my dad's family, though they appeared normal. The only blue members of the clan (not all of them were, by a long shot) I've ever seen are in archival and family photos. But we really don't know what goes on in the hills down there, and there could be way more left than we think!
    • CommentAuthorReymar
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2009
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    @rickiep00h I know all about water treatment, having owned aquariums nearly all my life, and worked with a friend at his fish store for about a year. My point was the water wasn't always harmful to fish and amphibians, why the sudden need to up the chlorine level? I'm still not ready to give tap water a free pass, I'd almost bet it helps cause IBS for people who drink lots of water. I'll stick with tap water for doing dishes, and the occasional boiling of pasta thats pretty much it.
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    @Rickiepooh
    When you say 'Pretty much all they did was filter it, add some chlorine and fluoride. That's about it.', you're not really being very specific and giving the potentially misleading impression that it's a lazy treatment.

    Depending on the method of filtration, filtering water and adding chlorine is pretty much all you CAN do to water to make it safe as far as I'm aware?

    The reason I suggested listening to the podcast was not to try and give a definitive answer, but to give a place to begin learning what can be done to water and why for anyone who doesn't know, so they can make informed decisions based upon individual circumstances, rather than passively absorb and act on other people's opinions.

    Edited because of useless detail.