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    • CommentAuthorCassius
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    I was going to write a long and winding comment about my theory that Luke wants to be hated because he's guilty of the apocalypse they caused... but I think I'll keep that to myself.

    eh Nice work anyway guys.
    • CommentAuthorPooka
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    wow...he so deserved a garbage can lid to the face...

    some douches do tend to be bigger douches when they feel guilty about being a douche in the first place...:P
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    Wow... so many comments. I might as well come back and state a better opinion, as I'm tired of spending the last two days arguing the potential meltdown of my other hobby (Magic: The Gathering. Yes, I'm a comics-and-Magic nerd. Not exactly in the stereotypical sense, but there's some truth to that stereotype, too...)

    Okay. Luke. I sort of understood Luke. He wanted to be a little more because, well, he is a little more. I liked him for being surly and a little (okay, a lot) full of himself. There's always at least one black sheep in any family or group or gang. Luke was that guy. For a long time, Kirk and Karl seemed to be on about a level with Luke, in my opinion. I saw them as generally good guys, but capable of some pretty bad shit if pushed hard enough. In Luke's case, he just wants some time with the ladies and would like the general populace to respect him because he's a smart guy with brain powers. I was pretty pissed at him for nearly manipulating his ex into some non-consensual sex.

    But this time, catching him in the act of actually doing it? Deal breaker. When he was just kind of an asshole with a big ego, I could handle him, and even found him a little amusing as a thorn in the side of the rest of the Angels. But now we've crossed a pretty big line, and Luke is not amusing to me.

    I think that this particular arc may involve the actual institution of a judicial system for Whitechapel itself. Someone just got murdered. We've got at least one confirmed rapist. How does the gang deal with it in an adult way? Does Whitechapel turn into a police city-state? Martial law and all that? (Given what I have gleaned from Warren's other work, I'm guessing not, but it will be fun to see the conversation take place with so many good characters making their arguments.)

    So many postapocalyptic stories deal with how shit falls apart; this is one of the few that deals with it being reassembled. I think that's part of the reason I like it...
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    I get the feeling that the Luke business is going to supercede the Jack the Ripper stuff fairly quickly. The Jack the Ripper thing seems like a slow burn thing that'll go over several volumes.

    Awful as his actions are here, I feel sorry for Luke because of what comes next. And I'm not talking about the Alice shitkicking, either. I'm talking about him futilely begging for his life from his brothers and sisters and them executing part of their family. Because that's what has to happen next. Part of "growing all the way up" is applying punishment and stopping criminal behavior. And it's not like they can put Luke in jail or simply banish him. Jail's won't hold him and banishing him just creates another Mark, or creates victims of anyone else Luke runs across. So he has to die and his family has to kill him. And that's going to be awful for everyone.

    Hmm, wonder if there'll be CRYING in Whitechapel after all...?
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    I'm worried what Arkady'll do if she finds out.
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    @rootfireember - Agreed. While KK is certainly capable of the emotional outbursts, and Kait is a bit of a loose cannon with a gun, I think 'Kady--for all her introspection and intelligence--might have an outburst that will have some pretty dire consequences.
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      CommentAuthorWaxPoetic
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    Happy Trash Can lid...
    Wonderful lovely art...

    Thanks to all for fabulousness (bit late for the show, I spent yesterday lounging under cats and taking a rug out of my apartment. very wonderful, very necessary). It's getting on to summer but the weather hasn't got the memo yet.

    Also - creepy creepy to see the girl with no working eyes in her sockets - temporary, yes, but deeply disturbing also. well imaged.
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      CommentAuthorBeka
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    I have caught up from the beginning in the past few days, and instantly loved Alice - I have a soft spot for Manchester girls, it would seem - and I've been skeeved off by Luke pretty much since his first scene. Needless to say, to see Alice give him a face full of bin lid was <em>mighty</em> satisfying. The shit's hit the fan, now, we just have to wait a week to see where the splatter lands.
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      CommentAuthorAlastair
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    BINFACE!!!!!

    now this is an idea..... how about lady said to Luke, "hey can you fuck me whilst messing with my mind?" maybe she wasn't comatose maybe she was seeing the sex as colours? or from his perspective? they have a boatload of powers and they aren't all mindwipey. she might just be a groupie who wanted a full Freakangel allybang experience.
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    We need a girl cosplaying as Alice, carrying around a trashcan lid now.
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    @ Alastair - except ... the general population doesn't know about the powers and all. Alice is an Honorary FreakAngel, on account of being messed with by Mark. (She also is the only one without the hard-K sound in her name.)

    Somehow, I doubt this girl knew what she was doing. It'll be interesting to see what SHE does when she 'wakes up', pants around her ankles, with no memory of how she got there.

    I too worry about Arkady's reaction to this. Also, Jack and Sirkka are ready to dump Luke. Kirk, Karl and KK, especially, will not be impressed. Miki will just shake her head. And Kait ... Kait'll just shoot him. The correct response, ya ask me.
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    @Alastair - I have a feeling this will be Luke's excuse. "She totally wanted it, and it was totally consensual" even though, given Luke's track record up til now, it probably wasn't.

    @roo - I will DEFINITELY be avoiding the blondes in ManU jerseys at cons now. Not because I'm a rapist fuckhead, but because I just don't want to get whacked in the face when I don't expect it.
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      CommentAuthorAlastair
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    @mister hex, true the general populace doesn't know but he seems pissd off enough to start blowing cover. maybe he brags to the ladies and most tell him to fuck off cause... well he's a lying untrustworthy prick but you're in a new town, this guy pulls you aside and says, "i can make you see stars" he's charming and seems a little dangerous so she says "go for it" i dunno. this just seems like a little too obvious and i'm expecting the rug to be pulled out with a "fuck you! you assuming little shit!"

    i think he's raping her i really do! BINFACE made me cheer, but i also don't trust warren.... or paul.... or most of you


    kidding! i kid!
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      CommentAuthordiello
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    @Root
    I was going to cosplay with my boyfriend as KK and Spider for the next con, but maybe we can go as Alice and Luke instead (that way my boyfriend won't have to shave his head, and I won't have to get a team of brutes to hold him down while I marker up his body with tattoos ;)
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    @diello

    See I've been considering cosplaying as Spider from the first issue of Transmet. Mostly so I don't have to shave my hair off. I've yet to work out the tattoo issue though.
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    I think Luke needs to be castrated. But honestly that was funny, I mean it's the last thing I expected. I thought maybe a dead body hanging upside down and knocking on the wall from the wind or the White Chapel Ripper trying to lure them. It's also funny that as mentioned before about the two playing "In-0ut game" and having Luke and a poor girl playing their version of the "in-out game" too.
    Actually I'm kind of surprised that none of the other guys (as far as we know) don't use their telepathic influence on girls to, especially since there's no internet (if you know what I'm getting at), but then again they're seen as guardians amongst the people so the hero complex works to get them girls too I guess.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    they're seen as guardians amongst the people so the hero complex works to get them girls too I guess.


    Along with boys as well, I'd imagine.
    • CommentAuthorinizitu
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    @Ken Keisel Did you mean you're surprised the other guys aren't rapists? See, the thing that Luke is doing is controlling someone's mind and taking away her ability to withhold or give consent. This means that "using telepathic influence" is rape. While the other Freakangels are all sorta crazy, and some are self-absorbed and trigger-happy, there are only two who are actively evil bastards: Luke and Mark.

    Also, unspoiler because a bunch of folks brought it up, but the girl in the last panel isn't consenting or fulfilling a fetish. There's a scene where you can see Luke taking her over, and Sirkka picks it up. She tries to sick Kait on him, but that's when Kati found the Ripper victim. So, the theory of "oh, it's a fetish" isn't working in this instance.

    Which doesn't meant that Sirkka can't likely to wonderful things to a sex-addled brain. But it does mean that Luke has been granted superpowers and seems to think the best use of them is raping and victimizing women who are already traumatized, starving and broken. *sigh* Not surprising, but can episode 59 just be many, many panels of Luke being beaten and tortured in various ways? Maybe can he cry?
    Please?
    • CommentAuthorinizitu
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009
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    @Ken, Also, I thought it was hilarious, too, until I got a good look at that close up of her face. Sneaky, sneaky bastards writing this comic, killing the funny with horror.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2009 edited
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    This highlights a perspective on Alice, as well. Recall that when she first arrive in FA 2 she's in the street and ranting in fury about how she's going to kill the Freakangels, but she doesn't actually shoot Conner when he shows himself. Also, when she first awakes after KK's "canteen bombing," she holds a knife to Conner's throat before Sirkka and KK cleanse her of Mark's programming. Both times she spent a lot of time talking instead of action, probably because even then she was subconsciously fighting Mark's programming. However, in this case Alice doesn't really speak except to acknowledge Caz's observation of the mind-controlled girl. She just grabs the lid and WHAANNG! I think when Alice is really focused on something, she doesn't really bother with a lot of works. As I recall, she was the same way in Volume II when she got the rope and went to relieve Kirk so he could participate in hunting the Freakangels' attackers.

    A silent, determined Alice bodes ill for Luke's continued well-being.