Wed, 22 May 2013 00:34:10 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164176#Comment_164176 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164176#Comment_164176 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:06:55 -0700 Dan Kelly
I've been going through the Freakangels GNs and have identified a number of locations and stuck them on a google map which is here

I've marked the first appearance that a location can be identified from the website

I think that Connor's place is elsewhere, as there is a later shot, just before he goes to the Freak Cave where he is leaving somewhere else. It looks a bit like Folgate Street, but I'm not certain.

I suspect that Caz is probably setup in the Truman Brewery, and think that I should be able to find the pier.

Any feedback? Should I setup a key (e.g. Freakangels locations, other locations, recognised landmarks, etc) ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164194#Comment_164194 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164194#Comment_164194 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 07:08:02 -0700 mister hex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164196#Comment_164196 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164196#Comment_164196 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 07:14:31 -0700 E0157H7 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164206#Comment_164206 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164206#Comment_164206 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 07:36:21 -0700 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164238#Comment_164238 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164238#Comment_164238 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:38:08 -0700 Ariana I've marked the first appearance that a location can be identified from the website Not quite...! You've missed the first appearance (and better view) of Sirkka's pad. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164243#Comment_164243 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164243#Comment_164243 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:09:26 -0700 cjtremlett
(I had to double check to be sure I had it right. Whew!)

Awesome! Having never been there, it's nice to get a sense of where things are relative to each other. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164247#Comment_164247 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164247#Comment_164247 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:26:34 -0700 Dan Kelly
@Arianna: Which appearance of Sirkka's are you thinking of? There's the one I have marked as Connor,s from Ep 4 - just because in the GN it segues better to Connor that from KK... However I'm sure that it's not Connors

@cjtremlett: Bugger, Had them the wrong way round, then went back and fixed it for the Garden. Fixed now ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164250#Comment_164250 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164250#Comment_164250 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:50:42 -0700 Dan Kelly
I've just seen that Warren's posted this on WarrenEllis.com, which is rather flattering to say the least...

Better see if I can ID some more locations :) ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164252#Comment_164252 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164252#Comment_164252 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:53:08 -0700 Ariana There's the one I have marked as Connor,s from Ep 4 - just because in the GN it segues better to Connor that from KK... However I'm sure that it's not ConnorsOoohhh, nuh uh. Heh. The E4P6 building and the E29P4 building are (I believe) the same structure from two different angles. That's a relatively... notable... Whitechapel structure. At least as notable as the other named structures you've marked on the map. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164266#Comment_164266 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164266#Comment_164266 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:44:32 -0700 Dan Kelly
And thanks to the heads up, I've IDd what the building is. Should reveal it though? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164268#Comment_164268 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164268#Comment_164268 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:49:45 -0700 rickiep00h Animals album sleeve but have no friggin' clue where it's located.

(Yes, I did check, and now know, but it would be cool to add for other folks.)

And maybe the Millennium Dome. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164286#Comment_164286 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164286#Comment_164286 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:18:07 -0700 Dan Kelly http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164337#Comment_164337 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164337#Comment_164337 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:19:39 -0700 doesitexplode http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164397#Comment_164397 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164397#Comment_164397 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:54:20 -0700 Bunnikins
Really good idea - thank you for giving me some idea of the locations and distances involved. Makes the place seem much more real to me as I'm not familiar with London at all and terrible with abstract environments (not a slur on the pictures, just no idea how the places relate to each other). ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164454#Comment_164454 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164454#Comment_164454 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:29:19 -0700 Orpheus
Needless to say i felt slightly uncumfortable... People could see my nipples... Not even 1/100th the amount of people that were at the expo... But they were alot more starey. And sadly to say pics never did ensue... Oh well. There shall be another time.

*Nerd moment over* ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164920#Comment_164920 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164920#Comment_164920 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:28:13 -0700 Purple Wyrm
Being an obsessive geography nerd I've been plotting FreakAngels locations in Google Earth right from the very start...


Direct link to the kmz file

I've made a large number of totally unreasonable assumptions for this project, many of which are being demolished as Warren and Paul drip feed us more data. In particular I had Sirkka and Caz's places completely wrong - I've fixed this in the latest version with appropriate credits to Dan and Ariana. I also think I might have a bead on the location of the dock, although I haven't put it in the file yet...

Corrections and feedback are welcome. I'll be visiting London in a few months and intend to try and visit as many FreakLocations as time allows. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164982#Comment_164982 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164982#Comment_164982 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:09:44 -0700 thehoodedone
Since complex hydrology maps are the thing for the flooding of Whitechapel, a recent open source program made by a couple of scientists to do just this, map predicted flood patterns. (I remember Mr. Ellis mentioning something about making flood simulations)
This program called ANUGA appeared on the Australian ABC's show The New Inventors, on June 10
Hopefully the link to vid works, if not here is the link to the website ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164994#Comment_164994 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=164994#Comment_164994 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 23:48:50 -0700 Purple Wyrm http://flood.firetree.net/ for flooding data because it's easy and (most importantly) free. It should be noted however that it's relying on Google's elevation data which is only accurate to within 16 metres, and tends to get confused by clusters of tall buildings.

I seem to recall Warren mentioning flood risk maps at one point, so I'd guess he has access to much better data than we peasants. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165017#Comment_165017 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165017#Comment_165017 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:51:19 -0700 Dan Kelly
I'd been planning on trying to ID some of Arkady's trip separately as I felt that they'd be useful.

I think I'm going to go back to the text tonight and make three distinctions, places that the story takes place in, places we see as background, and places we hear about.

Keep it up :) ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165047#Comment_165047 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165047#Comment_165047 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:22:48 -0700 sneak046
As someone who used to haunt Bethnal Green/Brick Lane/Whitechapel and the surrounding areas (but never that land o' ponsy haircuts known as Shoreditch) on an infrequent basis , I would hope that London, nay the world's best beigel shop, The 24hr beigel shop on Brick Lane wouldv'e survived the 'freak-event' - perhaps Mr Duffield could work it into a background for me? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165068#Comment_165068 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165068#Comment_165068 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:21:02 -0700 Purple Wyrm


I can only apologise. To everyone.

I've uploaded an updated version of the kmz with an idea on the location of the dock and a few more tweaks. I was thinking the dock might be at the corner of Cobb and Middlesex Streets - depending on how much artistic license we can ascribe to Paul's depiction of the red brick building. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165078#Comment_165078 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165078#Comment_165078 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:22:08 -0700 Dan Kelly
re: Truman Brewery - I agree with you that it seems an awful long way from Caz's to the dome and also that it's on the wrong side of Whitechapel, assuming that the land between Commercial Street and the Freakcave are intact. However it's proximity to the heart of Whitechapel and it's significance (big sunday market etc) in real life make it a good candidate.

As for the Dock, I've thought the same, but there were a couple of things that made me think otherwise...

Finally, I'm yet to decide whether the Whitechapel logo here has any significance being centered on Aldgate, rather than Spitalfields... ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165082#Comment_165082 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165082#Comment_165082 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:38:06 -0700 UrbanAngel http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165083#Comment_165083 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=165083#Comment_165083 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:42:52 -0700 Purple Wyrm plenty of big metal stills and piping to cannibalize for water purification. The brewery is such a good candidate that until further evidence turns up I'm willing to write the Millennium Dome view off as an early episode teething problem.

Do you have any other ideas on the dock location? I've been wandering all around the area in streetview and Cobb Street is the best candidate I've found (not to say it's a great candidate).

I've always assumed the logo is centred where it is so it can show Commercial Street (the centre of FreakAngels territory) and Whitechapel High Street (to get Whitechapel in there), but I could be very wrong.

@UrbanAngel - Just near where I've placed (admittedly with almost no evidence) Miki's clinic. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=167008#Comment_167008 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=167008#Comment_167008 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:05:53 -0700 Paul Duffield It's nice to see the locations recognised.
Just a quick not in general so people don't drive themselves into distraction trying to find fictional locations:
Connor's house doesn't have a real-life London location, although it's meant to be in Whitechapel. Likewise Miki's clinic (although there's a street around the back of her clinic that I've used a few times that's based on a street in Oxford) The pier for Jack's Boat doesn't have a real location, although it's between the Thames and Whitechapel on our fictional new shore-line. Caz's water factory also has a fictional location (most places on the 'new shoreline' will, since I have to bend a few rules in order to show more than a street's worth of river at any one time. I also have to simplify a lot of details on street scenes just to save on time.

At some point after the episodes involving Shoreditch park, street view london was launched, and I was blessed with as much reference as I can get my grubby mits on, so many in-between locations are real streets beyond this point... for example, the exodus out of Shoreditch goes through real locations on a route I chose between Shoreditch and Whitechapel, and the house in which Miki finds Kait with the dead body is really someone's house (right down to the remnants of some lace curtains). If anyone's got enough spare time, they should be able to track down some of these.

EDIT: I'd point them out myself, but I don't actually keep an exact note of non-recurring locations. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=167022#Comment_167022 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=167022#Comment_167022 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:08:34 -0700 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=167659#Comment_167659 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=167659#Comment_167659 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:25:25 -0700 Purple Wyrm
Cheers for all the info Paul. I'll update the map to reflect the locations that don't have real life parallels - although I'll probably still waste my time trying to guess where they would be if they did. I'll need to take another look at the streets between Shoreditch and Whitechapel - I did some vague zooming around previously but now that there's confirmation of the reality of the scenes the hunt is on. The same for the murder house (that's gonna be a challenge... ).

(Obsessed? Moi? :)

Thanks also to our Lord and Master Ellis for lifting the creative veil ever so slightly.

EDIT: Oh, better not let the inhabitants of Broughton hear about this. It's bad enough that Streetview lets burglars case their houses without comic artists putting grisly, fictional murders in them. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=167680#Comment_167680 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=167680#Comment_167680 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:39:42 -0700 Dan Kelly
Glad that the work is appreciated as well. The mention of Firetree reminds me of something I did earlier in the week...

Every so often I think of different spins to take on this - not like I don't have enough to do with my time... ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=168005#Comment_168005 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=168005#Comment_168005 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:50:07 -0700 BrianKellett http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169077#Comment_169077 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169077#Comment_169077 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:25:12 -0700 Purple Wyrm


It's on Parfett Street, not too far away from the Bell Foundry.

Lest anyone doubt my sanity I didn't spend hours looking for it. I just scanned around on Google Earth looking for terrace housing in the general Whitechapel area and lucked out when one of the first streets I checked had the right sort of houses. From there it was just a case of following the terrace around the block until I spotted the tree and skip bin. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169124#Comment_169124 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169124#Comment_169124 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:02:05 -0700 doclivingston http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169177#Comment_169177 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169177#Comment_169177 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:41:27 -0700 Dan Kelly http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169239#Comment_169239 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169239#Comment_169239 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:31:54 -0700 rickiep00h that in their living room. With a big sign that says "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH THIS." ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169571#Comment_169571 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169571#Comment_169571 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:12:06 -0700 Purple Wyrm KMZ file is up - now with even more wild speculation, including a stab at the waterline around Whitechapel. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169695#Comment_169695 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169695#Comment_169695 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:19:04 -0700 daffyd_morris
ok, the gherkin (if you dont know what im on about, search for 'gherkin building london' to see what i mean) should be slap bang in the middle of freak angels teritory. has it been featured in any of the comics? i dont remember seeing it. to check its locaiton yourself, its full address is '30 St Mary Axe, City of London, London EC3, United Kingdom' ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169744#Comment_169744 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169744#Comment_169744 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:18:54 -0700 Purple Wyrm
http://www.freakangels.com/?p=50&page=6 ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169831#Comment_169831 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169831#Comment_169831 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:44:42 -0700 daffyd_morris http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169838#Comment_169838 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169838#Comment_169838 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:03:14 -0700 Magnulus http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169841#Comment_169841 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=169841#Comment_169841 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:22:16 -0700 Flabyo
I had a few beers in a bar on the ground floor there a few years ago, it's a lovely building up close. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=171378#Comment_171378 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=171378#Comment_171378 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:36:09 -0700 UrbanAngel http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=171394#Comment_171394 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=171394#Comment_171394 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:18:59 -0700 LaurenSilverwolf re: Truman Brewery - I agree with you that it seems an awful long way from Caz's to the dome and also that it's on the wrong side of Whitechapel, assuming that the land between Commercial Street and the Freakcave are intact. However it's proximity to the heart of Whitechapel and it's significance (big sunday market etc) in real life make it a good candidate.

This is cool! Love the maps.

When I saw Kait's pit last week, I wondered if it might've been part of the Truman Brewery. If you look at the piccies on page 5, there's what seems to be a bit of a chimney in the top left corner. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=171468#Comment_171468 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6112&Focus=171468#Comment_171468 Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:17:35 -0700 Paul Duffield
@Purple Wyrm

Nice find :D It's odd seeing the comparison like that. ]]>