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      CommentAuthorPurple Wyrm
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2009 edited


    I can only apologise. To everyone.

    I've uploaded an updated version of the kmz with an idea on the location of the dock and a few more tweaks. I was thinking the dock might be at the corner of Cobb and Middlesex Streets - depending on how much artistic license we can ascribe to Paul's depiction of the red brick building.
    • CommentAuthorDan Kelly
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2009

    re: Truman Brewery - I agree with you that it seems an awful long way from Caz's to the dome and also that it's on the wrong side of Whitechapel, assuming that the land between Commercial Street and the Freakcave are intact. However it's proximity to the heart of Whitechapel and it's significance (big sunday market etc) in real life make it a good candidate.

    As for the Dock, I've thought the same, but there were a couple of things that made me think otherwise...

    Finally, I'm yet to decide whether the Whitechapel logo here has any significance being centered on Aldgate, rather than Spitalfields...
    • CommentAuthorUrbanAngel
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2009
    This is weird but cool! I am currently in my office which is on Leadenhall St by Aldgate station! Alas I do not know London so well so can't identify any of the places. Never been to Whitechapel.
      CommentAuthorPurple Wyrm
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2009 edited
    Not to mention that a brewery would have plenty of big metal stills and piping to cannibalize for water purification. The brewery is such a good candidate that until further evidence turns up I'm willing to write the Millennium Dome view off as an early episode teething problem.

    Do you have any other ideas on the dock location? I've been wandering all around the area in streetview and Cobb Street is the best candidate I've found (not to say it's a great candidate).

    I've always assumed the logo is centred where it is so it can show Commercial Street (the centre of FreakAngels territory) and Whitechapel High Street (to get Whitechapel in there), but I could be very wrong.

    @UrbanAngel - Just near where I've placed (admittedly with almost no evidence) Miki's clinic.
  1.  (6112.25)
    Haha, wow this is awesome :)
    It's nice to see the locations recognised.
    Just a quick not in general so people don't drive themselves into distraction trying to find fictional locations:
    Connor's house doesn't have a real-life London location, although it's meant to be in Whitechapel. Likewise Miki's clinic (although there's a street around the back of her clinic that I've used a few times that's based on a street in Oxford) The pier for Jack's Boat doesn't have a real location, although it's between the Thames and Whitechapel on our fictional new shore-line. Caz's water factory also has a fictional location (most places on the 'new shoreline' will, since I have to bend a few rules in order to show more than a street's worth of river at any one time. I also have to simplify a lot of details on street scenes just to save on time.

    At some point after the episodes involving Shoreditch park, street view london was launched, and I was blessed with as much reference as I can get my grubby mits on, so many in-between locations are real streets beyond this point... for example, the exodus out of Shoreditch goes through real locations on a route I chose between Shoreditch and Whitechapel, and the house in which Miki finds Kait with the dead body is really someone's house (right down to the remnants of some lace curtains). If anyone's got enough spare time, they should be able to track down some of these.

    EDIT: I'd point them out myself, but I don't actually keep an exact note of non-recurring locations.
  2.  (6112.26)
    I should also note that Paul is in general much more strict about locations and water levels than I am. In most cases, I sort of squint at maps, and then squint at Firetree, then take a best guess... and then just make it up anyway.
      CommentAuthorPurple Wyrm
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009 edited
    Awesome - we have guidance from the masters!

    Cheers for all the info Paul. I'll update the map to reflect the locations that don't have real life parallels - although I'll probably still waste my time trying to guess where they would be if they did. I'll need to take another look at the streets between Shoreditch and Whitechapel - I did some vague zooming around previously but now that there's confirmation of the reality of the scenes the hunt is on. The same for the murder house (that's gonna be a challenge... ).

    (Obsessed? Moi? :)

    Thanks also to our Lord and Master Ellis for lifting the creative veil ever so slightly.

    EDIT: Oh, better not let the inhabitants of Broughton hear about this. It's bad enough that Streetview lets burglars case their houses without comic artists putting grisly, fictional murders in them.
    • CommentAuthorDan Kelly
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
    Paul & Warren, thanks very for confirming that there is some method in the madness as well as a small measure of madness in the method :)

    Glad that the work is appreciated as well. The mention of Firetree reminds me of something I did earlier in the week...

    Every so often I think of different spins to take on this - not like I don't have enough to do with my time...
  3.  (6112.29)
    @Paul Duffield If you ever need better reference shots than those you get from Streetview, just ask - I'm in Whitechapel all the time (often trying to sneak my GPS tracked and heavily watched vehicle around to said bagel shop at 4am in the morning).
  4.  (6112.30)
    Found the murder house!

    Parfett Street

    It's on Parfett Street, not too far away from the Bell Foundry.

    Lest anyone doubt my sanity I didn't spend hours looking for it. I just scanned around on Google Earth looking for terrace housing in the general Whitechapel area and lucked out when one of the first streets I checked had the right sort of houses. From there it was just a case of following the terrace around the block until I spotted the tree and skip bin.
  5.  (6112.31)
    And if you actually go there, you'll find that Ellis and Duffield even went to the trouble of putting a real dead body in there. We're the luckiest fans in the world.
    • CommentAuthorDan Kelly
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2009
    Good find!
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2009
    @doc - I'll bet the people that live there were surprised to find that in their living room. With a big sign that says "DON'T FUCKING TOUCH THIS."
  6.  (6112.34)
    OK, a new version of the KMZ file is up - now with even more wild speculation, including a stab at the waterline around Whitechapel.
  7.  (6112.35)
    @Purple Wyrm Good find!! i bet the house prices on that street have just gone up now they've been imortalised in ink ;)

    ok, the gherkin (if you dont know what im on about, search for 'gherkin building london' to see what i mean) should be slap bang in the middle of freak angels teritory. has it been featured in any of the comics? i dont remember seeing it. to check its locaiton yourself, its full address is '30 St Mary Axe, City of London, London EC3, United Kingdom'
  8.  (6112.36)
    The Gherkin appears in the panorama right at the end of book one. Unsurprisingly it's had its top knocked off.
  9.  (6112.37)
    awesome! i only read the whole thing a few weeks ago, but i must have just skimmed over that :D
    • CommentTimeJun 28th 2009
    Is that what it's called? I have to say I always saw it more as a gigantic, shiny buttplug...
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeJun 28th 2009
    It's official name is just '30 St. Mary Axe' these days. It used to be known as the 'Swiss Re Tower'. Most people just call it the gherkin though.

    I had a few beers in a bar on the ground floor there a few years ago, it's a lovely building up close.
  10.  (6112.40)
    Or the dildo.