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    It'd be great to be able to buy back issues of mags like Life and Nat Geo for a couple bucks. Imagine all the huge historical events they covered and what it must've been like to read about them at the time...oh wait, some of you are older than me and were probably alive then.
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      CommentAuthorRantz
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2009
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    oh wait, some of you are older than me and were probably alive then.

    NO BETA CODE FOR YOU!
    • CommentAuthorgzapata
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2009
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    when will be the announcement for more beta cards. Will it be mentioned here at whitechapel? I check your twitter pretty regularly but just to make sure since I check this site much more than any other
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      CommentAuthorRantz
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2009
     (6217.4)
    Yes, I'll mention it here.
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    I don't know if this has been mentioned before, so I apologize if it has, but are there any plans to bring magazines to the LongBox platform? It occurs to me that there are a number of digital mags and print mags that are quickly going the way of the dodo. Even the ones that aren't struggling might want to give it a shot *coughs* hopefully Coilhouse *coughs* because they don't sell it near me *coughs*

    I would be nice to have magazines that are image-heavily, such as the Look, Life, or Nat Geo archives easily available, wouldn't it? If only...

    Actually (warning! wild conjecture to follow!) a much more interesting way to expand the Longbox service beyond US comics would be to get a foothold in the UK/Euro market, which is much more focussed on creator-owned work (although creators tend to strike deals with publishers).
    • CommentAuthorgzapata
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2009
     (6217.6)
    ^that was one of my thoughts about it. There are so many great books in the european market that are difficult to get a hold of here. Though they also work in graphic novel format if I understand correctly so they might end up getting priced a bit more
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    What happens when the creator makes changes down the road? Will there be automatic updates?

    How about when a work is revised and/or completed for collection? An example of this is Bob Fingerman's minimum wage which was released as pamphlets for a while, and then ceased publication, only to be completed later as part of a single book, with the earlier pages revised. Will people who bought the digital periodicals on Longbox have to pay again for the complete digital book? Or would that be thrown in as a "thank you" for the early support?
  8.  (6217.8)
    Rantz,

    I got a beta code from Tony Lee. Am I missing something or will there be an update to the LongBox website that allows me to enter the code?
  9.  (6217.9)
    It'd be great to be able to buy back issues of mags like Life and Nat Geo for a couple bucks. Imagine all the huge historical events they covered and what it must've been like to read about them at the time...oh wait, some of you are older than me and were probably alive then.

    You already can buy NGs. Thrift stores have them. Antique stores have more reliably old selections (for more money). 60s and 70s National Geographics are the bees knees.

    @Rantz RE last night's Open Mike:

    Get some of that Smart Balance Peanut Butter. An all-natural, non-hydrogenated oil blend with healthy levels of fat plus superb roasted flavor plus it's got them omegas. Nobody should have to stop eating peanut butter. Nobody.
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      CommentAuthorRantz
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2009
     (6217.10)
    As I've stated many times, the Beta is not live yet. If you follow the instructions on the website, you will get an email with instructions on how to use the beta code the second it goes live. :)
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      CommentAuthorRantz
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2009
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    Part 1 of a VERY lengthy interview went up on Newsarama today. More details and BG, etc...

    http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090804-longbox-part1.html
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      CommentAuthorRantz
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2009
     (6217.12)
    Had to post this here, because i know Warren, if no one else, will appreciate the bitter irony.

    So reaction overall to LongBox on the interbes has been incredibly positive. For every 30-50 posts, there's maybe one or two saying "I'll never read digital, print comics are the ONLY way comics should be."

    However...

    there's a forum that's geared around a certain sci-fi "superhero" character... a character that has always had a space/tech/futurism kind of vibe to it, and the response on that forum?

    about 7 out of 10 are saying things like "Digital Comics are the devil, comic companies should ONLY be doing print!" etc, etc. I realized how naive I can be at times, that it actually surprised me that, on a forum dedicated to a sci-fi superhero, sheparded into creation by an editor who got his start as an agent for sci-fi writers, would be so "anti-tech"

    Ok, end of digression...
  13.  (6217.13)
    Well, you get the real digital-haters when you go to the print forum. Print forums will always be the only real kind of forum.
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      CommentAuthorMike Black
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2009
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    Going back to an earlier question in the thread about LCS owners, it works as such - They should be transitioning to a repository of trades, graphic novels, traditional print and memorabilia in the long term.

    Resistance to change is not a viable business model.
    • CommentAuthorZacDozier
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009
     (6217.15)
    Mike Black - I've heard from my local LCS owner that he already was having problems trying to stock mostly trades, as he can't compete with the discounts that Amazon or the like can mark off a book. If everyone of his regular customers adopt Longbox 100% and buy TPB's of anything else. I can see his store going under.

    That said I prefer Trades anyway, and would rather not wait to read the story has it's published monthly for a title. I think a lot of LCS's are going to have to make changes, but I think they've needed to make them years ago.

    Comic book specialty stores shouldn't exist. Bookstores should be their home, which they kinda are now.
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      CommentAuthordarkpinky
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009
     (6217.16)
    @Rantz - Longbox looks fantastic. I realise you've probably got many more important territories to sign up before Australia, but when you get here, I'll be waiting. I read almost all of my comics on-screen (I was reading webcomics years before I discovered "real" ones that interested me) and really only buy the paper versions if I want to support particular books or creators (or when things like Absolute Sandman come along). I'd happily buy electronic versions as well, especially if it gave the creators a bigger slice of the pie.

    @KG and mckelvie - I downloaded Phonogram because Warren had talked about it on his blog, bought the trades of Rue Britannia and Suburban glamour once I had regular income, and was excited to be part of a new series as it was coming out.

    which is why I was really disappointed to read that you aren't making any money on Phonogram 2. I have a standing order for it, thinking I was doing you guys a service. It sucks that the current distribution model isn't supporting a work of such vision and integrity.

    @everyone who wants phonogram 3 - mckelvie's site has a section called Torrenting which has a paypal donation link for those who want to help support Good Art.
    • CommentAuthorgzapata
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009
     (6217.17)
    @rantz- what's the forum if you don't mind me asking?
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    and when you say:
    As I've stated many times, the Beta is not live yet. If you follow the instructions on the website, you will get an email with instructions on how to use the beta code the second it goes live. :)


    which website would that be, exactly?
  19.  (6217.19)
    @Professor Imagine

    This website, probably.
    (For information regarding the LongBox Beta. Please use the “info” email address, and use BETA in the subject line. Do NOT email your Beta code, or use it in the subject line of your email. Thank you
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      CommentAuthorMike Black
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009
     (6217.20)
    @ZakDozier - What I'm saying is in the long term. You're not going to transition from 15 guys arguing over Red Hulk to a traditional bookstore over night. I don't expect anyone to. It should be a gradual move. There is no reason that a LCS can't be a viable business in the long run. I hate to cite James Sime here, but The Isotope is a perfect example of a hip, viable business model.

    Ideally, if I were a retailer, when something like Longbox comes out, I would start a huge advertisement blitz in my store. I'd make a point of telling each of my customers about it, and I would especially push the "trade paperback voucher" program. I'd slowly start phasing out single issues, and in their place start pushing trade paperbacks. I'd dedicate single issue space to trades, graphic novels (the types which are not normally stocked by LCS',) and I'd start stocking much more Manga than the typical LCS does.

    This sort of change can't happen over night. It's going to take blood, sweat, and tears from the retailler. Quite a few will fold into history. However, the savvy business people will thrive and grow.

    We're a service based economy now. You can't expect people will choose you over another shop simply because of what you stock anymore. You need to step up and make your store the single best experience you can. People will come.

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