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      CommentAuthortonymoore
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009
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    Recently, a group of paleontologists were in town for the North American Paleontological Convention at the University of Cincinnati, and decided to take a field trip to the Creation Museum just across the river, in Kentucky. My aunt went to cover it for AFP, and I had the doubly good fortune of living just a stone's throw away, so I tagged along to see what these guys were up to. It was an eyeful, to say the least. Gorgeous facilities with amazingly engaging displays and animatronics, and at least a few hundred cubic cubits of bad science and misinformation. One young lady stood, furious, and grumbled, "It's bullshit. Bullshit pretending to be science." Anyone who finds themselves in the Cincinnati area with a few bucks, hours, and brain cells to burn should check it out, and see what the scientific community is up against in terms of informing the public.

    Hep meh, Jesus! Hep meh!

    click here to read my aunt's article!
    Paleontologists brought to tears, laughter by Creation Museum

    Also, check it out on BoingBoing.net!
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      CommentAuthorPaladine
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009
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    I think I'd like a Creation Museum in my neck of the woods, just not one where children are carted off to in earnest.
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    I live about ten minutes away! The animitronics were actually designed by Patrick Marsh. If you don't know who that is, he's the guy that built the robot dinosaurs for the original Jurassic Park film, built many of the modern attractions at Universal Studios, and basically revolutionized the robotics industry. he then went nutty, became a born-again, and started working for Answers in Genesis, the monster organization responsible for the Museum. Most locals avoid the place like the plague; it's steep price tag (25 bucks a head in the off-season), total insanity, and embarrassment factor keep us well away. All of the Local Universities (including my own Northern Kentucky University, UC, University of Lousiville, University of Kentucky, and even the catholic Xavier U) protested it's construction and fought it's building for years.

    Then again, it brings in some sweet, delicious YECs tourist dollars...
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    This place is nearby (kind of), I should go. I need some laughs.
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009
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    I didn't realize the Flintstones was a documentary. My bad.
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    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009 edited
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    Hmm. This is only three hours away from me. I think I might go see me some Jesus Raptors!
    Oh yes. For the lolz, for the lolz...

    edit: de-posted pic because of the potentially seizure-inducing strobe effect. Brace yourself...<a href="http://www.masturbatoreum.com/images/248.gif">link is here</a>.
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      CommentAuthorwilliac
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009
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    That article made my day.

    If you, like me, can choke down giving these folks some cash, a good weekend can be had by giving it a visit, riding the dinosaur
    dinosaur w/saddle
    and hitting up Hofbrauhaus afterwards for some beer and happy people singing along to polka music.
    Hofbrauhaus Catastrophe
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    Seconding the Hofbrahaus. Anything made with their beer cheese is ace.
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009
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    Honestly, I'm a few hours away. I might make the trek JUST TO RIDE THE FUCKING DINOSAUR.
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    The 27 million dollar, 70,000-square-foot (6,500-square-metre) museum which has been dubbed a "creationist Disneyland" has attracted 715,000 visitors since it opened in mid-2007 with a vow to "bring the pages of the Bible to life."


    Right! - taking the figure of $25 dollars for each person who visited - a generous estimate - we get a figure of $17,875,000 - nearly $10m short of what is cost to build, let alone run!

    Two questions:
    How long has it been open?
    How does it financally stay open?
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      CommentAuthorMagnulus
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
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    since it opened in mid-2007
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    @Magnulus

    Oops - missed that!

    Makes me wonder how it is funded then as well as the $10m debt for the building there must be running costs!
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
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    One-day admission is US$21.95 for an adult. As it's now mid-2009, we can safely assume it's been open for two years. That's a little north of 350,000 people a year. So, then, that's at least US$7.6 million a year. Figuring a 30-year mortgage at the current average of 5.28% interest, the payments would be nearly a million dollars a year. Minus operating costs of utilities, salaries to employees, etc., I can still guess there's a clear ("non-") profit of several million dollars in there. Plus there's the gift shop. And since it's run by a church group, and they solicit donations in addition to ticket fees, etc., I don't think they'll be hurting for money--probably ever--as long as people keep attending. Even assuming the reduced rates for children and seniors, there's a fair amount of wiggle room where they're clearly making money.
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    @rickiep00h

    Point taken



    You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.
    L. Ron Hubbard


    After reading a little more about the place on Wikipedia my mind boggles even more!
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
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    @3millionyears - Yeah, I googled the actual website for the place. It's... frightening. Plus, if you look at the job application, you have to give a written statement of your beliefs. Because no one's ever lied on paper, especially when it comes to religious beliefs, to get a job.

    Not that I'd want to work there.

    In any case, I'm going with my earlier statement of wanting to go on a lark. Just to see it first-hand. And to RIDE A FUCKING DINOSAUR.
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      CommentAuthorLBA
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
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    I just found out there is a Creation Evidence Museum about 2 hours from here.

    I just don't think it will be as batshit out there as the one in kentucky and worth the trip.
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    These are the sort of people who would shout at me in the street because I was a 'sinner', which is a matter of opinion....

    I used to have so much fun with them, now they avoid me when they see me coming....

    I wish I could visit this place!

    Yes and I too would like to RIDE THE FUCKING DINOSAUR.
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    "This bothers me as a scientist and as a Christian, because it's just as much a distortion and misrepresentation of Christianity as it is of science," he
    said.


    no
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    This is far too much fun:

    The AiG statement of faith:

    All mankind are sinners, inherently from Adam and individually (by choice) and are therefore subject to God’s wrath and condemnation.


    I've really gone past anger at religion at this point so stuff like this doesn't boil my blood any more!
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