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      CommentAuthorvrbtm
    • CommentTimeJul 25th 2009
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    Friends, let's spend a minute to discuss BrokeNCYDE. A band from Albuquerque self described as "crunk core". Warren mentioned them many months ago, and they've been in my brain ever since.

    If you're not indoctrinated, here:





    Okay. Sorry for that. So, what do we make of this band?

    Considered sonically, BrokeNCYDE combines the harshness of throat-screaming with autotuned singing and pedantic Southern rap-by-numbers arrangements. It's a perfect storm of unpleasant. That's subjective, though: there's a place for harshness. I direct you to Skinny Puppy.

    Lyrics? The performers cover all bases: getting drunk, disgust with lesbians, demanding head, and getting drunk while getting head. Read as a text, BrokeNCYDE bears a resemblance to Tolkien in its singular dedication to addressing a topic of choice.

    Fashion? I know nothing of fashion. I solicit your input.

    The occasion of this discussion is thus: A few weeks back my friend interviewed the band at the Vans Warped Tour. She is a lovably gruff, nth-wave feminist with a penchant for righteous fury that can AWE you. Putting her together with a group BrokeNCYDE is... bold. In this interview she reigns her temper in like the consummate professional she is and mines pure interview gold.

    This is her features page. This is the BrokeNCYDE interview itself.

    I find this fascinating beyond anything. I see BrokeNCYDE (and this interview) as something more than a trainwreck. It is the wreck of a train filled only with babies. Your mind cannot process all the dead babies on the train: it's too enormous. The geometry of the horror is too perfect. It is a snowflake of badness, fine and unique. You must appreciate it without context.

    And then you must drink. Something brown. Alone in the dark. In silence.
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    brokeNCYDE, genius satire or post-ironic minstrel show?

    They attempt to merge emo and crunk, and fail at both, although they apperently were a serious group at one point (meaning they played bad screamo, instead of this). Something Awful suggests that they switched to being a "joke" band to get popular, and they will shift back to the "serious" music that they really want to do once they are established enough.

    I don't know about that, all I know for sure is that for every one of us that realise how terrible this all is, their are 10 of them who absolutely LOVE brokeNCYDE.
    • CommentAuthorAnanzitusq
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2009
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    I read that interview and thought: "If I took a shot for every time I thought 'bullshit!' I would be soaking in my own excrement on the path to death."

    I think it's part of the human condition to believe that such cultural atrocity is the product of some elaborate ruse. A coping mechanism of course, because after reading the interview I don't want to believe people do this garbage for real. What terrifies me is that they ARE popular to begin with. Is it because they are in fact, criminally terrible and we all can't look away? or has Anonymous launched the ultimate prank in the culture war?
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2009
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    Meh. No worse than The Limp Biscuits.
    • CommentAuthorSolario
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2009
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    Truly these are the end times. That interview. Christ, that interview.
    • CommentAuthoricelandbob
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2009 edited
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    Oh god i actually saw the Freaxxx video a month ago and actually went "WTF is this shit??" (picard picture and everything!).

    I just can´t listen to anything that uses a fucking vocoder is such a shitty way with... god it was just the worst... as for the video? well if you can´t find anything wrong with it, then please don´t speak to me..

    And as for THAT interview, If that was me, i probably would have just walked away going "PLEASE make a cognitive sentence for once in your fucking lives." Your friend has a lot more patience than i would have...

    Edit - Please can we get the ghost of Steven Wells to haunt these guys please?
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      CommentAuthorPaladine
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2009
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    Q: What is selling out for you?
    A: Things we don't do.

    Thanks for clearing that up.
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    The term for this style of dress is 'hipster' to be sure. I think it's pretty safe to label their music the same thing...
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      CommentAuthorvrbtm
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2009 edited
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    icelandbob makes a point that I think we should appreciate:

    I just can´t listen to anything that uses a fucking vocoder is such a shitty way with... god it was just the worst...

    He's right. As a musician myself I have to say that I find no technical proficiency in the musical tropes they're using. This isn't just bad music, it's bad music done poorly. Compare/contrast this vocoder to stuff that guys like Teddy Riley (of 90's hip-hop group Blackstreet and later production) have done. And there's the idea of deliberate song structure that is completely absent from their work. A song merely begins, some things happen, and then it is over.

    BrokeNCYDE does its horrible acts less well, and somehow it MAGNIFIES the intended effect of the music, which I assume is to inflict terror on the listener. This is baffling.
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    They could do with some actual dancers in their videos.

    Other than that, what? It's not at all the worst music created in the last decade; nothing about the low-brow simplicity and dirty disregard for proper genre seperation in their music mark new pop-culture milestones. "And there's the idea of deliberate song structure that is completely absent from their work. A song merely begins, some things happen, and then it is over": well, that's most entire Animal Collective albums for you, so what's your point?

    The choking thing, I don't know why that would bother people to the extent it seems to. It's not done in a narrative style, it's done as an idea portrayed outside of any suggested reality. It's an expression of an emotional idea. Anger between the sexes is an emotion a lot of people feel. It's natural, at least in the sense that the only way it isn't going to be a condition of life, is if men and women stop having relationships. Brokencyde represent a culture of self-nihilism, but nihilism without resentment and simultaneous demand for gratification from others (the other sex, in this case) is just acedemic and ingenuine. They are neither of those things: they express a childish, left-behind culture from within, and for within, as opposed to a lot of punk which merely bogarts cultural nihilism as an escape-vehicle for us educated types. Brokencyde are authentic. This is how they and their listeners live their lives (in both counts, the left-behind status is voluntary -- I mean these are white kids in america, for god's sake, and this is the dead suburb, not the ghetto -- but their sub-class status is definitely real, if self-created). I don't really get you if you don't get that.

    Which is all by way of saying that it's not good art, but it's still not remarkable.
    • CommentAuthorLani
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2009
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    "And there's the idea of deliberate song structure that is completely absent from their work. A song merely begins, some things happen, and then it is over": well, that's most entire Animal Collective albums for you, so what's your point?

    There's a difference about making a conscious choice with music, and not having any idea what you're doing or why you're doing it. One involves the actual crafting of music, the other does not.
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      CommentAuthorvrbtm
    • CommentTimeJul 26th 2009
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    I'm gonna have to digest BrianMowrey's comment for a bit.

    @racingpenguins, I agree. I'd argue that BrokeNCYDE's music shows the band lacks awareness of their own craft. Each decision in art has a consequence, and the good stuff can reveal the author's deliberation, weighing all the ramifications of a single choice. There's poignancy in the structure of a Nirvana song. or a synthetic cubist painting by Picasso, or even one of Dave Gibbons' 9-panel pages. These are works of art that are enhanced by exceptional craftwork and technical excellence. This being wholly absent from BrokeNCYDE-- well, it's just a glancing blow against them, but it's not unimportant.

    Will return to talk about BrianMowrey's thoughtful remarks in a bit. I don't know what I'll say yet, but I'm sure it'll mention Skrewdriver.
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    My first thought was that they had to be a joke band. My second thought was that they were a really shitty joke band.
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    Vrbtm, that's a brilliant post.
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    we discovered this little chunck of greatness over the winter. its so bad that its amazing, and ive actually come close to going to see them twice now just to experience the live show.

    im not kidding. i love terrible shit, especially when it is this bad.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeJul 27th 2009
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    Okay. I hereby declare The BrokeNCYDEs to have transcended their crappness to actually become wonderful masters of art and culture. They must have planned it thus. Just like the Sex Pistols did.

    I now hereby declare them to be the modern Sex Pistols. Because they kinda are, really. Of course, that means that one of them really needs to die now. Can someone sort that out please?
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    @Oddcult

    They're from Albuquerque. It's only a matter of time til one or two get it in the neck.

    I still stick with the 'hipster' notion of their music and style. It's like Brokenncyde walked into a metaphorical major-label thrift store full of over-used tools and gimmicks, i.e. vocoder, fisheye lense, etc, and made an audio/visual collage from all of them. If it worked for Sony or Warner Brothers, why shouldn't it work for them too?

    When Garageband came out a few people had the foresight to mention that not everyone who suddenly had access to easy-to-use, high-quality, free recording software would make things worth listening to. Heck, some would suddenly produce things you absolutely did not want to hear. Perhaps BrokenCyde has just enough originality that, even when the viral effect mostly rotates around people posting the Youtube clips on Facebook and commenting "Have you seen worse?", the fact remains one too many people will actually like it or at the very least hum it publlic- Another victim of a song caught in their head and unwittingly passing it along.

    But in a world where bands like the Jonas Brothers and Fallout Boy get pushed down our throats by the mass media, I can't really say BrokenCyde can be faulted outside their rather heavy lack of talent. I just close my Youtube tab and the pain ends. They aren't even any less pleasant to listen to than Daft Punk, in which I still don't understand why people think they are so awesome...

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    Oh my god. It's not hipster music. It's almost the opposite. It's "my best friend can do the bree and count to seven using only his cousins, and that crunk shit brings the pussy EVEN THOUGH GIRLS SCARE ME AND I KINDA WANT TO CUT THEIR FACES FOR IT, so if we put them together we'll be cool, smart AND TEH RICH FOREVERZ."
    • CommentAuthoricelandbob
    • CommentTimeJul 27th 2009 edited
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    @Warren and everyone else...

    And the worst bit is, it´s spreading!



    edit - Someone should teach them how to mosh properly, although those two doing a helicopter get some points for originality...
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    I can see how I said it was wrong. I was referring to current 'hipster' fashion, not any music I'm aware of. Like this? This is hipster fashion..


    "Maybe if we put the right two 'wrong' things together, we'll make a statememt!"

    Didn't mean to correlate them, just meant to compare this visual with the BrokenCyde audio.