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    • CommentAuthorarvandor
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
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    I fucking LOVE Freakangels.

    I haven't posted in forever but today I just have to. This arc has been amazing, and this week was awesome. The artwork is great as ever, with the steaming blood. I just loved seeing Karl shoot Luke like the scum he is, let him justify himself, then shoot him again.

    My opinion: what Luke and Mark did, and what Sirkka does, have NOTHING in common. Sirkka has in no way used her powers to hurt anyone, and has in fact helped them when she could. Whereas Mark and Luke use their powers for rape and slavery.

    Using Sirkka's action as a defense may be a legal technicality, but that's all it is. One of the advantages of a post-apocalyptic world is you don't have to put up with bullshit legal technicalities. Just shoot him and be done with it.

    This comic rocks.
    • CommentAuthorQuixotess
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.22)
    "My opinion: what Luke and Mark did, and what Sirkka does, have NOTHING in common. Sirkka has in no way used her powers to hurt anyone, and has in fact helped them when she could. Whereas Mark and Luke use their powers for rape and slavery."
    But what Sirkka and Luke did are functionally equivalent in that there is no effect of their actions in the body or memory of the other party. Luke hasn't really "hurt" anyone because, as Sirkka said, she made it so it never happened. I think you have to look elsewhere to find the problem, and I'm not sure Sirkka's actions are defensible.
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      CommentAuthorLBA
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.23)
    Dammit Warren, here I come looking for simple action, violence and a good story and you give me... well you give me that and also deeply troubling, thought provoking questions about morality, power and social constructs.

    and the artwork is outstanding as always.
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      CommentAuthorNygaard
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009 edited
     (6480.24)
    Dis-App-OINTedd. EDIT: But, well, in a good way.

    Apart from that, I am tired, dangerously caffeinated and harbouring a terrible urge to sadistically injure Information Technology Personnel. Beginning to understand that this is the default state for all office jobs. Otherwise, doublplusgoodfine; head full of ideas, quivering to get them down on paper.
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      CommentAuthoredward
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.25)
    I will have to ring you back about being dead or not...

    But yes, FreakAngels, incredible.
    • CommentAuthorpiersdog
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.26)
    impresive oh yes
    after last weeks agrevating skip(i had to re-read my transmet collection to get me through)i logged in with hope in my heart and was not dissapointed,am looking forward to the trial next week oh yes
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      CommentAuthorTwobyfour
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.27)
    I knew it... and the thick plottens..
    • CommentAuthorDan Kelly
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.28)
    Very nice.

    Glad that Like will be around to annoy us some more. Look forward to the Night Court

    This week, exceedingly tired as we've had a builder in all week. On the plus side we now have hot water in our house after 8 weeks. And by tonight we will have heating.

    This weekend I build a kitchen
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.29)
    I like. Thank you, Warren!
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    I am disappointed. I feel it would have been much better had Kirk just splattered Luke's brain across the wall. More viceral, and somehow more in keeping with Krik's no bullshit manner.
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      CommentAuthordiello
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.31)
    Lovely lettering, Ariana, as usual!
    And good job for the boys, too.

    I can't wait for the trial. What will Luke say in his defense? Who will agree that if what Luke did was wrong, then so was what Sirkka did? I am so riddled with possible outcomes in my head that I can't even explain a single one.

    But I am glad Luke didn't get killed right then and there.
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      CommentAuthorAlan Tyson
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.32)
    Regarding whether the rape "happened" or not - I think JohnJones

    Except that it did happen and evidence does exist. It exists in the minds of Alice and the other Freakangels, who won't be able to help treating the girl differently because of the rape. Really, the only way to fully eliminate the rape would be to remove all memory of it from Alice, Luke and everyone involved.

    said it just about perfectly.

    There is always more than one victim of rape. It's ripping out the guts of the way society works and the way people relate to one another, and it harms society and human relationships as a whole. Put another way, if you rip a strand out of a tapestry, you damage the strand AND the tapestry. It's a crime against an ideal, not just a person. I don't seek to diminish the harm it does a rape victim, I'm just saying that there are shock waves from such an event. And even in a world where you can erase someone's memories, you still can't stop ripples by removing the stone from the lake after it's been dropped.

    Whether the girl he violated remembers it or not (and I think the jury's still out on that one), the Freakangels + Alice will remember it, and they'll still be damaged (or at least affected) by it. They will still be the victims of Luke's actions.

    I bring this up simply because I don't think Luke can get out of this one, and that's my reasoning for why he won't - because the people judging him are the only ones left who were harmed by his actions. I REALLY don't want to start up another rape debate, since that got a recent thread closed, and I'm not going after the people who are playing Devil's Advocate for Luke - usually I'm the one defending the un-defendable, so I get where you guys are coming from!

    And, of course, THANK YOU to Mecha Warren-Paul-Ariana, for this issue, and all the others like it. Freakangels is always what gets me out of bed (on a Friday, at any rate...)
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    I love the simple changes in Luke's expression in the last two close-ups; The brow unfurrowed, the lips slightly slackened just simply made the last page build up brilliant. That's the stuff that makes good comics. Thanks for the work, Paul.
    • CommentAuthorbigkech
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009 edited
     (6480.34)
    Great episode! loved the art and detailing as usual. I'm very glad to see that Luke didn't get killed. Me thinks what comes next might give us an interesting glimpse into the minds of the F-angels: how they interpret due process and such, who thinks he should die, who protests (if anyone does). We shall see. Whatever comes it's sure to be chock full of awesome goodiness.

    If they do let him live but perhaps tinker with his noggin a bit, I wonder if he'll join Mark in his quest of fuckery.

    Not dead...zombie-like is a more accurate label. A few cups o morning coffee should help a bit. Thanks.
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      CommentAuthorinfomancer
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.35)
    Sweet Internet Jesus, those are some good bullet holes. I can practically smell those panels.
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    Hmmm. I am going to reserve my opinion on this weeks episode, and wait for next weeks episode.
    I am ok. I have new pens.
  4.  (6480.37)
    Well that was satisfying. Well, enough. My dad has a friend in the house much too early in the morning (9:20am) watching a train video. Loud. Ugh. Wrong.

    My week has been ok. My sunburn from Saturday is not peeling, which is annoying but livable. The wonderful thing about not working is that I can hang out with my friends any damn time I please. My schedule is beautifully open. I got to hang out with one of my friends and the family she lives with last night - the kids are very adorable.
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    Good issue.

    This weeks been fine mostly. I've been cracking on with writing Moon Station 5, had my birthday, read books, and drank coffee.

    I refuse to speculate on what's going to happen next week or in future weeks as I'm happy just watching and waiting.
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      CommentAuthorArcaenia
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     (6480.39)
    Yes, I'm alive - and I have a fast-growing addiction to playing X3 to prove it :P Sometime I may even leave the house again!

    I'm so wonderfully impressed with the art this week (although I worshipped it already) - the light-shine on the blood, for example, was absolutely gorgeous, considering it's a messy bullet wound. While I'm disappointed that Luke's still alive (can't blame a girl for hoping, huh?) I'm glad he'll have to face up to what he's done.

    Luke may even have wanted to be considered dead, now I think about it. He knows that Karl thought that Mark was dead - "I saw his body drop into the water; I felt his brain die." - when he actually isn't. If they all assumed Luke was dead he would have been free to do what he liked.
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    Apparently I'm not the only one that can say that I'm glad he got shot in the dick.

    God help us all.

    Warren, Paul, and everyone else involved - Keep up the amazing work. Every Friday has become Christmas for me.