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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeAug 29th 2009
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    @ Warren

    Did you ever listen to Peter Gabriel, especially some of his older stuff? I'm wondering if he ever did a video for "Rhythm of the Heat."
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    that beak track is very nice i'm a sucker for a good bassline.

    warren do you know a (now defunct) scottish band called Ganger? They were early contemporaries of mogwai but in my (not really so) humble opinion were way way more interesting than just going soft / loud / soft. there's a track of theirs on youtube called capo that you may like to check out.
    • CommentAuthorEvJ
    • CommentTimeAug 30th 2009
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    This is from CANAXIS, 1968.


    It's also on OHM+: The Early Gurus of Electronic Music, which is a compilation I can strongly recommend. It learned me the truth about various things I thought I knew about electronics in music, and gave me my first listen to quite a few people I'd only known by reputation before.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeAug 30th 2009
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    @ Warren

    Thanks for posting that. I'd sort of flirted with Gabriel back in the mid-80s when "Sledgehammer" was inescapeable on MTV. I even picked up the "So" album and discovered "In Your Eyes" before John Cusack. Though my favorite track from that album was and is "Red Rain." Fast-forwarding about ten years or so from then, I and the family went to Sox Flags and I went to see some magician perform. It was pretty forgettable until the final trick when he played "Rhythm of the Heat" as an accompaniment. I went back to the show four more times just to hear that one song (and really only the first two and half minutes of the song). I finally asked the guy what the song was and bought the "Security" CD at the next opportunity. And whenever I read Planetary and see the Drummer working his mojo, that's the song I imagine him playing to charm the machine gods into doing his will.
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      CommentAuthorbjacques
    • CommentTimeSep 1st 2009 edited
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    The video to "Shock the Monkey" had the Sankai Juku dancers performing in an abandoned, grungy factory. If you really want Peter Gabriel's prehistory, go look for the albums he did before Security. When he left Genesis, he did like Brian Eno did after leaving Roxy Music - weird (for the time) stuff with Robert Fripp. I have the albums on vinyl, haven't listened to them in ages. In storage, of course.

    I've got a whole shelf of CAN CDs that aren't on my iPod. I'll have to do something about that. I never saw them live, but I did see Damo Suzuki play here a few years ago.
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    I saw Suzuki three years ago, it was terrible, he filled the whole music with the usual gibberish but none of the rhythmic fluency. Granted, the band that was playing with wasn't very rhythmic either.
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      CommentAuthorbjacques
    • CommentTimeSep 2nd 2009
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    I vaguely remember the gibberish, but the band seemed OK. I remember it was a pretty good show, but otherwise didn't leave mucb of an impression.
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    i had a major Lou Reed session a month or so back. i never bothered with this album though as i'd remembered it as one of hs iffier moments but that there tune is pretty cool.

    apart from the first three Velvets (and Songs for Drella) for me it's Berlin that is his moment of unparalleled solo genius. i've seen some of the live footage from the tour he did of it the other year though and i'm pretty glad i missed it. his singing voice seems to be on it's last legs - it's a real shame. he did however take Antony (of & The Johnsons) out with him as a co-singer and his version of Candy Says is heartbreaking and judging by the look on Lou's face he agrees. There's an even better solo antony version on youtube too.
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    i had a major Lou Reed session a month or so back. i never bothered with this album though as i'd remembered it as one of hs iffier moments but that there tune is pretty cool.

    Terrible album. FLY INTO THE SUN is head and shoulders above everything else on it.

    Agreed about BERLIN. Though I do have a great fondness for the goofy poison candy that is TRANSFORMER.
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    i always think of Transformer as being half a good record - especially on vinyl. one side gold the other side, not so much fool's gold but more sort of, chav's gold - there's gold in there but it's been mixed with quite a bit of dreck to bulk it up into a sovereign ring.

    New York is another favourite. It was such a return to form, Dirty Boulevard especially.
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    You remember what a big deal NEW YORK was at the time? Lou Reed reborn.
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    absolutely. he even appeared on stage at the mandela concert doing a couple of tracks (Dirty Blvd and The Last Great American Whale) on his own playing one of those horrible cricket bat shaped guitars that were all the rage at the time. It was such a blast seeing him amongst that carnival of overly earnest dross and the audience obviously didn't have a clue who he was.

    it really was a rennaisance time for him. A year later he and cale produced the wonderful Songs For Drella album. I still, to this day, play Drella every couple of months. the raw honesty of the lyrics and the stark, minimal, almost brutal, instrumentation rocked my world. I remember listening to 'Hello, It's Me' with a head full of acid one night with tears streaming down my face. It's such a heartbreaking song. And living deep in the Welsh valleys with nothing to look forward to but a giro every fortnight that final line from 'Smalltown' - 'There's only one good use for a smalltown. You hate it and you know you'll have to leave!' - felt like it was written directly to me.
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      CommentAuthorhowyadoin
    • CommentTimeSep 3rd 2009
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    Sweet Jesus, I haven't heard "Fly into the Sun" since the days when I still had hair.

    Thanks, I needed that.



    P.S. I still think "Turn to Me" is pretty great, though.
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    Transformer was one of the first albums I owned...still like it.

    Waded through a lot of his terrible solo stuff , but still have a soft spot for Coney Island Baby for some reason.
    • CommentAuthorBoga_
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    Coney Island Baby is absolute genius, right below The Bells as my favorite Lou Reed album.
    I absolutely loathe Berlin by the way... Oh Jim is the only song in it I really like, the rest is just plodding miserablist tripe.

    @bjacques

    Suzuki always played with a different band in each "tour" he did, usually a local band or someone he was friends with. It was his "Damo Suzuki's Network" phase if I'm not mistaken, don't know if he's still doing it though.
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    @Boga - you say 'plodding miserablist tripe' like it's a bad thing? ;D
    You gotta love how much an artist like Reed can split his admirers to such a degree let alone his detractors.